The Ultimate Best Elite World-Class Jazz Off-Season Guide

[Hitman]

Here is what the Jazz should try to do. I think most of this is within the realm of realistic outcomes.

1. Waive the trio of non-guaranteed vets who were signed this past off-season (Thabo/Jonas/Udoh). This will make sense with the other moves I will make.

2. Double sign and trade for Jabari Parker

..and that's where I stopped reading.

 

[Scat]

None, and I mean NONE of the OP's suggestions move the needle in being able to overcome HOU or GSW. It seems like a bunch of moves just for the sake of making moves.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

I used capulator

So you're planning on picking up Ner
To and Royce? That's what it would take, if it's legal (and there isn't any clarity on that, but safe enough to say yes here).

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

..and that's where I stopped reading.

Fascinating

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

None, and I mean NONE of the OP's suggestions move the needle in being able to overcome HOU or GSW. It seems like a bunch of moves just for the sake of making moves.

That's like your opinion man.

(and your opinion's typically blow)

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

None, and I mean NONE of the OP's suggestions move the needle in being able to overcome HOU or GSW. It seems like a bunch of moves just for the sake of making moves.

So don’t make any moves then unless they move the needle against those two. Let’s send DL on vacation.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

One item of note that just crossed my mind... Clips will be close to the luxury tax but could just waive Beverly. They could guarantee the salary and then we could use Jonas and a 2019 second and they could waive Jonas to duck the tax. Better than just waiving Beverly or paying someone to take Wes Johnson.

 

[NUMBERICA]

One item of note that just crossed my mind... Clips will be close to the luxury tax but could just waive Beverly. They could guarantee the salary and then we could use Jonas and a 2019 second and they could waive Jonas to duck the tax. Better than just waiving Beverly or paying someone to take Wes Johnson.

That would be bonkers great, IMO. File this under: "How Could the Jazz Be Even More Unpleasant to Play Against"

 

[infection]

One item of note that just crossed my mind... Clips will be close to the luxury tax but could just waive Beverly. They could guarantee the salary and then we could use Jonas and a 2019 second and they could waive Jonas to duck the tax. Better than just waiving Beverly or paying someone to take Wes Johnson.

Is Beverley not guaranteed?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Is Beverley not guaranteed?

He is not guaranteed.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Favors market may have dried up last night if Phoenix takes Ayton (they should take Luka). There is some Phx blowhard that says it 100% will be Ayton.

Atlanta take Bagley, Jackson, Bamba, they have Collins... not offering Favs. Phoenix would have Ayton... likely not offering favs.

Best he could hope for is a sign and trade if he wants real long term money.

 

[Getting Traded]

Lol.

You are a special kind of stupid aren't you.

Hardly, because when Numby and others were saying others were touting him, I actually hadn't seen that. When I saw him in Summer League, it was the first time I saw him play and knew very little about him, except that I heard he was a good pick. And please, don't call me stupid, because making such a comment is itself, very stupid.

 

[infection]

Hardly, because when Numby and others were saying others were touting him, I actually hadn't seen that. When I saw him in Summer League, it was the first time I saw him play and knew very little about him, except that I heard he was a good pick. And please, don't call me stupid, because making such a comment is itself, very stupid.

No way. Nobody beat me to the Mitchell bandwagon. When Donovan Sr. was playing minor league ball through the Astros system, they came to Salt Lake and played the Buzz. I saw the fire in his eyes and knew, back then, that if he were to have offspring, that the sports world would be their oyster and a franchise like the Jazz would be lucky to have them. I was the original.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Hardly, because when Numby and others were saying others were touting him, I actually hadn't seen that. When I saw him in Summer League, it was the first time I saw him play and knew very little about him, except that I heard he was a good pick. And please, don't call me stupid, because making such a comment is itself, very stupid.

The celebrating you continue to do about something not worthy of celebration on several levels continues to be a bad look.

 

[addictionary]

I guess the Ricky hype will take a hit and team chemistry won’t be as exciting as it was for some players next year. You count too much on Rudy’s health. I wouldn’t. Jazz system depends mostly on his dominant rim protection so I would focus on backing him up stronger if you’re letting Favors go.

 

[radiohegel]

Hardly, because when Numby and others were saying others were touting him, I actually hadn't seen that. When I saw him in Summer League, it was the first time I saw him play and knew very little about him, except that I heard he was a good pick. And please, don't call me stupid, because making such a comment is itself, very stupid.

Just because you didn't happen to read any prior discussion about Mitchell doesn't mean it didn't happen. Claiming 'first' on the basis of your own private experience (a validation which hinges entirely on you quite simply failing to pay attention to other people's discussions prior to your engagement with the topic) is pretty obnoxious, and that's why people get on your case.

"I have never personally considered this topic, or considered others' thoughts on this topic. Therefore this is a completely original thought, the inception of which I will now repeatedly congratulate myself for." See how that's kind of off-putting?

 

[campaignist]

Another deal I'd consider in the capspace realm... Philly sends Bayless, Holmes and the #38 pick for the unguaranteed contracts. They then have max space. They have overseas prospects and multiple picks. Holmes is a decent 3rd or 4th big. I think their is good value in this draft out to the 40/45th pick range.

So not sexy... I know, but I think we just need to build.

Yknow, I think the Sixers are ripe for ripping off. They truly think they have a shot at Lebron, and Bryan Colangelo is a dope. Offer them cap space and sweeteners, then take a solid piece like Covington. Wait for draft night to make them desperate.

 

[LoPo]

My offseason plan:

#1 Trade Burks and Udoh to the Knicks for Noah and #9. Let them dream of LeBron. By shedding Noah for Burks non-guaranteed Udoh and re-structuring Kanter, they could open up max type money for a LeBron push. Or they just wait until summer 2019. #9 won't move the needle for them but Noah really gets in their way. For us, Noah doesn't kill us because O'Neale, Crowder, and Mitchell are on such bargain deals. We have more to gain by having a high draft pick asset than max free agency space in 2019. Too many buyers in 2019 and not enough elite talent available.

#2 Use #9 and #21 to get the best player available. Either a current player or a draft pick. Maybe draft a Porter Jr. or Bridges at #9 and turn #21 into a future, better 1st. Or trade up. Or trade for Tobias Harris. I like what DL can do with picks more than what we have pulled off with cap space.

#3 Say goodbye to Favors unless he wants to take something around Crowder's deal ($7ish).

#4 Re-sign Exum to anything less than $10 million. He fits the long term narrative.

#5 Sign Hezonja using some of the MLE. I'm estimating that $7 gets it done. He could be the bargain of the summer. He's a SF/PF with explosiveness, a great shot and defensive potential.

We may or may not have to waive Jerekbo to get under the luxury. All depends on the contracts for Exum and Hezonja.

PG Rubio, Exum, Neto
SG Mitchell, O'Neale
SF & PF Ingles, Crowder, Hezonja, Thabo, #9, Jerekbo
C Gobert, Noah, Bradley

Our focus next season will be to play "small ball" 1 through 4 anchored around Gobert at 5. It will be same lineup we will need come playoff time. The "two bigs" approach will be over because it won't work against the Hampton 5 type lineups.

Our roster flexibility would be amazing. O'Neale (SG, SF, PF), Hezonja (SF, PF), Ingles (SF, PF), Crowder (SF, PF), Thabo (SF, PF), Mitchell (SG, PG), Exum (PG, SG, SF) and #9 (SF/PF) are all players who can play multiple positions. Our "switch-ability" with quality players would be as deep and strong as any team in the league. And we would have Noah to provide hard fouls and energy come playoff time (until he expires or we stretch him summer 2019). #9 fits as a building block for the future more than hoping and praying for a big free agent.

I know I'm bringing up my own post, but there is something I wanted to add.

Under my plan, we avoid very risky "max contracts". Here how the contracts would break down over the next few years:

Gobert his $25 million per year
Rubio around $15 per year
Ingles his $13 per year
Exum less than $10
Crowder his $7.5 per year
Hezonja around $8 per year
Favors less than $10 per year if he stays
Donovan on his rookie deal around $4
O'Neale on his super cheap deal around $1.5
Bradley on his rookie deal around $1.5
The #9 pick rookie deal around $4

Less risk, more good players, hopefully one of the good young ones emerge as a great one. I like spending $25-30 on 3 guys than $25-30 on an Aaron Gordon, Jabari Parker, etc.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I know I'm bringing up my own post, but there is something I wanted to add.

Under my plan, we avoid very risky "max contracts". Here how the contracts would break down over the next few years:

Gobert his $25 million per year
Rubio around $15 per year
Ingles his $13 per year
Exum less than $10
Crowder his $7.5 per year
Hezonja around $8 per year
Favors less than $10 per year if he stays
Donovan on his rookie deal around $4
O'Neale on his super cheap deal around $1.5
Bradley on his rookie deal around $1.5
The #9 pick rookie deal around $4

Less risk, more good players, hopefully one of the good young ones emerge as a great one. I like spending $25-30 on 3 guys than $25-30 on an Aaron Gordon, Jabari Parker, etc.

So the issue I have is that the Knicks won’t do that trade... I’m fine with proposing here it but it won’t happen. Like it makes very little sense and I don’t even think they are on Lebrons list. He likes playing in the garden... outside of that what do they have?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yknow, I think the Sixers are ripe for ripping off. They truly think they have a shot at Lebron, and Bryan Colangelo is a dope. Offer them cap space and sweeteners, then take a solid piece like Covington. Wait for draft night to make them desperate.

Doubt they are moving RoCo... he’s the type of player you want to keep if you get LBJ... defense and shooting... doesn’t want or need the ball.

Might be able to sneak TLC, their 1st this year, their seconds, and other stuff around the fringes. I think they can stretch Bayless and get to max.

They don’t have enough roster spots for Korkmaz, TLC, and all their picks... can draft and stash... but if those guys want to come over they have caphold a until they say they aren’t coming over... and some of those guys are likely ready to play here now.