The Walking Dead

[DutchJazzer]

Or the fact that they never barricaded and fortified the place. Dig ditches, reinforce fences, move into the farm, secure windows and dors, have an escape plan and a rendevous place, make a triple brick wall with adobe bricks. It is a damn forrest and you have tons of water, dirt and pine needles. That and liek you said stock up on food, weapons, fuel, medicine, clothes, tools, seeds, clothes, wood...

they started doing that in the comics at about 70-80
th edition using cars as baricades to thin the herd near the settlement. dug trenches and used the sand to einforce the wall. then the few that get through the cars and land in the trenches get cut up by michone and other guys on patrol

 

[DutchJazzer]

That is why I said I would have 3 man teams rotate each day and go scavange for gas, meds, ammo, food... Plus if you have a group of people in a stand off and you have a guy behind a .50 cal that adds intimidation and they are less likely to attacks.

it might bring some unwanted antention, scavenging in a larger radius increasing the likeylhood meeting other survivors, which a lot of them arent really that sane which brings a diferent risk

 

[Stoked]

did you ever shoot with a ak47 or m16. and tried precise headshots? headshots are easier with glocks, i'd take an extended glock magazine above a fullasusalt rifle vs zombies anyday.
then again some fuill assualt rifles could be set to automatich making it easier to shoot. problem with noobs is they woudl put it on full auto and blast bullets everywhere hitting everywhere except the head. making more noise calling more zombies

Zombies are not the only threat in their world. See the Govenor.

Also I didn't say I would send them out blowing on trumpets driving a tank. I specifically mentioned Glenn and Darryl as leaders of my scavangeing teams because they know how to sneak around. Not doing something that you know will dramatically increase your chances of survival because something bad might happen is foolish. Take precautions and err on the side of caution while out scavanging but to do nothing is what got them in the situation like the season 2 finale and it cost them the lives of 2 people and their safe house.

Edit: Also looking for other survivors (within reason) is a good thing. You are out scavanging and find a family holed up in a home barely making it well...feel them out give them a little food and tell them you will be back tomorrow. Then go and talk it over with the other group members and bring Rick or someone to meet them and if the look like they are ok then bring them back and make them part of the group. Once you do make sure yo umix old and new people in groups so there is no cliques or any of that other H.S. crap.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I would take a silenced pistol over everything. Or any kind of silenced weapon.

 

[//r00t 4 Jazz]

I try not to get into "what if's" especially in shows like this. I mean I still try to be attentive and notice things (so I'm just not a brain dead zombie watching a zombie show) but it can take away from the show to much.

I mean heck zombies hordes are mindless sheep you just need sound or little blood or whatever bait to get them started in a direction. I could easily see cliffs and other natural terrain features that they could use to create redirects and slow bottle necks and off the cliff or into whatever you setup they go. Anyway that's my point about what if's.

 

[Stoked]

When I am watching the show I just enjoy it and do not try to think my way thru it. As for all these "what if" comments it is just what I would try and do if I was in that world.

 

[DutchJazzer]

When I am watching the show I just enjoy it and do not try to think my way thru it. As for all these "what if" comments it is just what I would try and do if I was in that world.

when i'mw atching the show i turn of my brain sort of. but when i read comics after wards i brainstorm with myself and or a friend about the what ifs.

we had a discussion about burning zombies. that it wouldnt be a good soultion because zombeis on fire would run a round before really dying. turning other **** on fire in there wake

 

[kwb]

I agree with the part about the bad writing. If you have no intent on them grabbing those guns, why even show them? And if there was an AK, I'd still take it. Especially if I had some one in the group like Shane or Rick who had knowledge of weapons.

I understand the writers can't have them fortify the farm because then it wouldn't lead to anything. After all, it is a show. Didn't Rick and Hershell say it was their fault for not doing more? So that sums stuff up.

Overall, I love the show and the characters. I expect the writing to be a lot better this next season.

 

[Gameface]

As for being able to get head shots with a glock (not sure why Dutch mentions a glock in particular) more easily than with an M16 or AK47, I'd have to disagree. On full auto you'll probably lose precision after the first couple shots, but that's what the 3-round burst/semi-auto/full-auto selector switch is for. And taking semi-auto shots from a long gun will always be more accurate at range than with a pistol.

 

[trigg3r]

did you ever shoot with a ak47 or m16. and tried precise headshots? headshots are easier with glocks, i'd take an extended glock magazine above a fullasusalt rifle vs zombies anyday.
then again some fuill assualt rifles could be set to automatich making it easier to shoot. problem with noobs is they woudl put it on full auto and blast bullets everywhere hitting everywhere except the head. making more noise calling more zombies

Yes I have with both. You obviously haven't because you are claiming that it is easier to shoot someone in the head with a handgun compared to an assault rifle. I suggest you go to a shooting range and try both and then get back to us.

 

[trigg3r]

I would take a silenced pistol over everything. Or any kind of silenced weapon.

Silenced MP5.

 

[DutchJazzer]

As for being able to get head shots with a glock (not sure why Dutch mentions a glock in particular) more easily than with an M16 or AK47, I'd have to disagree. On full auto you'll probably lose precision after the first couple shots, but that's what the 3-round burst/semi-auto/full-auto selector switch is for. And taking semi-auto shots from a long gun will always be more accurate at range than with a pistol.

at wat range. most headshots i saw where at close range. 2-5 meters.
i know you can put those automics on semi-auto, or the 3 shot burst. but you gotta remeber in stressfull situation you might get carried away and get panicy. remeber these guys arent really trained. so a handgun would be far better.

 

[trigg3r]

at wat range. most headshots i saw where at close range. 2-5 meters.
i know you can put those automics on semi-auto, or the 3 shot burst. but you gotta remeber in stressfull situation you might get carried away and get panicy. remeber these guys arent really trained. so a handgun would be far better.

You were watching the wrong show then. They were nailing zombies in the head from 25 or more feet at times in a moving car. I understand TV can be unrealistic, but this was Windtalkers bad.

 

[DutchJazzer]

You were watching the wrong show then. They were nailing zombies in the head from 25 or more feet at times in a moving car. I understand TV can be unrealistic, but this was Windtalkers bad.

when they where nailing them from 25 feet most where using long weapons(shotguns/riffles, although a shotgun is a long weapon it isnt made for long range shots) but most kills in this show have been close range, and using handguns

 

[kwb]

Yes I have with both. You obviously haven't because you are claiming that it is easier to shoot someone in the head with a handgun compared to an assault rifle. I suggest you go to a shooting range and try both and then get back to us.

BOOM! Roasted!

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Silenced MP5.

I still probably go for a pistol. More accuracy (also easier to carry and conceal), but I guess if I have the marksmanship of your average survivor, I would spouting off head shops every round.

 

[Gameface]

at wat range. most headshots i saw where at close range. 2-5 meters.
i know you can put those automics on semi-auto, or the 3 shot burst. but you gotta remeber in stressfull situation you might get carried away and get panicy. remeber these guys arent really trained. so a handgun would be far better.

Have you ever watched a person shoot a handgun for the first time? 3-5 meters and a lot of people are hard pressed to hit a 8"x11" target.

There are two ways in which handguns are superior to long guns. They are lighter and more portable/stowable/concealable (can be worn in a holster). They provide for better manuverability in tight spaces. Other than that every last thing about a long gun is better. Higer (much higher) powered, higher accuracy rounds. Much easier to aim and hit your target when your front and rear sights are father apart. Much easier to keep the gun stable by pulling it into your shoulder and resting the foregrip on your palm or even better rest the foregrip on a stationary object or use a bipod.

Saying a Glock is better for accuracy makes you sound like a 17 COD master who has never fired a real gun.

And if we're talking accuracy in a pistol I'd probably shoot a browning buckmark .22 or a Ruger MKII in .22. If I wanted a bigger round I'd go with a 1911 or if I could find one an FN Five-seveN. Glock would be down the list a bit...a good bit.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Saying a Glock is better for accuracy makes you sound like a 17 COD master who has never fired a real gun.

agreed

/end discussion

 

[aybars]

guys,,please,,dont make me start it..this is my expert area

this is glock 19 on my belt,,its good,cause its light,,,but not the best,,u ask me best handguns in the market are Sig and makarov(7.65)

best rifle,,no doubt ak-47,,than comes ak-74..this one is custom made(chek-fabric) full metal body

yea,,i know i look stupid

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Have you ever watched a person shoot a handgun for the first time? 3-5 meters and a lot of people are hard pressed to hit a 8"x11" target.

There are two ways in which handguns are superior to long guns. They are lighter and more portable/stowable/concealable (can be worn in a holster). They provide for better manuverability in tight spaces. Other than that every last thing about a long gun is better. Higer (much higher) powered, higher accuracy rounds. Much easier to aim and hit your target when your front and rear sights are father apart. Much easier to keep the gun stable by pulling it into your shoulder and resting the foregrip on your palm or even better rest the foregrip on a stationary object or use a bipod.

Saying a Glock is better for accuracy makes you sound like a 17 COD master who has never fired a real gun.

And if we're talking accuracy in a pistol I'd probably shoot a browning buckmark .22 or a Ruger MKII in .22. If I wanted a bigger round I'd go with a 1911 or if I could find one an FN Five-seveN. Glock would be down the list a bit...a good bit.

Pistols also seem to be less prone to wasted bullets. I would just prefer the mobility and ability to conceal. Pistol bullets also seem like they would be easier to come by. It's not every Gun Shop that carries AK-47 rounds (right?).