They Are Watching You

[babe]

babe :
I don't believe those accusations are true, or at least you are blowing them wildly out of proportion.
If there was evidence of these things, I'd have heard about it somewhere else besides in your post.

oh, give it about six months. . . . it'll get out.

a week ago you wouldn't have believed all the "data" that's been collected on you for years. You called people like me who said they were doing it nutjobs.

OK, so what is my "proof". I'm not on the "inside" where I can actually "see" stuff like this. Though I've worked with some NSA folks who let a few things slip once in a while. I've also been "on the phone" with government offices/officers some times when my questions caused a moment of panic and the poor stupid frustrated brick in the wall "official" left the phone on while he discussed the problem with his superiors. Enough to know that the government agencies generally are working on an agenda they won't discuss publicly.

What I have said above is based on observing with comprehension Obama's active methods for accomplishing his stated goals, which includes "changing" America to a managed society in the tank for fascism. You can take it to the bank. It's the fact.

Well, the banks aren't a good place to take it. Your only hope for regaining your human rights is making it clear to your elected government officers on every level, from city through state to federal, that you're not going to accept top down management to this extent.

 

[MoreFeasts]

no, I assumed that NSA had data like that and more. . (I saw that Will Smith / Gene Hackman movie) but that does not mean that Obama has diverted all government employees from their duties to work on his re-election campaign and/or a master plan to implement fascism.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I do find someone posting DEATH TO AMERICA as pretty offensive. My wife and son as well as most the people I like live here, Dutch. Because we don't have perfect liberty you want our nation to fail? Grow up.

No doubt Dutch has now landed himself on a watch list with that tirade. Any posting anywhere - even on site like Jazzfanz - likely does not escape the wide net of the government and their massive monitoring network.

 

[DutchJazzer]

No doubt Dutch has now landed himself on a watch list with that tirade. Any posting anywhere - even on site like Jazzfanz - likely does not escape the wide net of the government and their massive monitoring network.

well if that is true good riddance.
i'm already on one corrupt/bad governments watch list.
so if true I'm on 2 now, it's like a medal of honor for me.

i know i saidI wont reply in this thread, or something like that.
but i meant not commenting on the subject.

i'm just replying to what your said concerning me and the watchlist

 

[Harambe]

well if that is true good riddance.
i'm already on one corrupt/bad governments watch list.
so if true I'm on 2 now, it's like a medal of honor for me.

i know i saidI wont reply in this thread, or something like that.
but i meant not commenting on the subject.

i'm just replying to what your said concerning me and the watchlist

For the record: It's not that you're going on Death to America rants that makes you a troll. It's the fact that I'm pretty sure not even you believe the crap you're spouting off, and yet you continue.

If I were any one else, I'd think you were my troll alt right about now. I mean, we joined the same month and everything.

-- Why couldn't you possibly be my alt? I want to say I'm better at trolling, but I think I'm just a slight bit more subtle.

 

[Nate505]

funny the moment i say death to america and death to those soldiers i get a infraction, i get a private message saying it is offensive and i supposedly get put on ignore list.

Yeah, that is pretty funny!

 

[DutchJazzer]

For the record: It's not that you're going on Death to America rants that makes you a troll. It's the fact that I'm pretty sure not even you believe the crap you're spouting off, and yet you continue.

If I were any one else, I'd think you were my troll alt right about now. I mean, we joined the same month and everything.

-- Why couldn't you possibly be my alt? I want to say I'm better at trolling, but I think I'm just a slight bit more subtle.

I actually believe what i'm spouting off.
i belive in freedom.
on paper America is a great idea.
but these governments are trying to kill freedom and take control.

so believe what you will. but i truly believe what i am "spouting" off.

maybe my delivery is not up to "code"

but i believe what i say, and stand by it.

 

[The Thriller]

Serious question...

Why do so many people have their panties in a twist over this "spying" when we already post up much more vital information on Facebook?

So what if some gov agency can read a few of my texts when anyone can look up thousands of pictures of one person and know exactly what they ate and how they're feeling every 5 mins?

If we really cared about privacy I'd think Facebook would have far fewer users. But whatever. Obama sucks and don't tread on me freedom amurika bla bla bla

 

[DutchJazzer]

Serious question...

Why do so many people have their panties in a twist over this "spying" when we already post up much more vital information on Facebook?

So what if some gov agency can read a few of my texts when anyone can look up thousands of pictures of one person and know exactly what they ate and how they're feeling every 5 mins?

If we really cared about privacy I'd think Facebook would have far fewer users. But whatever. Obama sucks and don't tread on me freedom amurika bla bla bla

if i get this right they are also scanning e-mails? those are private right.
skype msges?
those are also private.
yet they scan them.

and yes i have a fb account with 1 picture.
and almost no personal info just to stay in contact with certain people,
dont they also scan fb private msgs?

 

[Nate505]

Serious question...

Why do so many people have their panties in a twist over this "spying" when we already post up much more vital information on Facebook?

I agree with you on many things, but come on man, I can't believe you are trying to make this comparison.

 

[Harambe]

I actually believe what i'm spouting off.
i belive in freedom.
on paper America is a great idea.
but these governments are trying to kill freedom and take control.

so believe what you will. but i truly believe what i am "spouting" off.

maybe my delivery is not up to "code"

but i believe what i say, and stand by it.

Still not sure I believe that, but in the event you do, you have an further skewed vision of what Freedom is than I do. The Government isn't stopping these people from making phone calls, nor limiting their freedom of speech. They're still free to do what they want, when they want. But the point when their freedom encroaches the health and safety of others, that's when they step in. At that point, as far as I'm concerned you don't have any rights, but the government will likely still give you a right to a trial. But that's cool... you do your thing. You're allowed to see it any way you want to. That is the glory of what our freedom provides.

"Never forget" means something entirely different to me than it does the rest of the US. Never Forget that if you promise to kill Americans if they're in your country, accept the opposite. You come knocking my door down in an attempt at "Freedom", I promise you won't die quickly

 

[DutchJazzer]

Still not sure I believe that, but in the event you do, you have an further skewed vision of what Freedom is than I do. The Government isn't stopping these people from making phone calls, nor limiting their freedom of speech. They're still free to do what they want, when they want. But the point when their freedom encroaches the health and safety of others, that's when they step in. At that point, as far as I'm concerned you don't have any rights, but the government will likely still give you a right to a trial. But that's cool... you do your thing. You're allowed to see it any way you want to. That is the glory of what our freedom provides.

"Never forget" means something entirely different to me than it does the rest of the US. Never Forget that if you promise to kill Americans if they're in your country, accept the opposite. You come knocking my door down in an attempt at "Freedom", I promise you won't die quickly

exactly likely a trial.
tell that to those guys in guantanamo.

i did not say kill americans.
I said if america occupy's the country i live in like they do iraq and afghanistan. i would be killing soldiers.
but maybe you dont see the differnce between an occupying force ala afghanistan or iraq(in the name of freedom and democracy) and just some american in a country.
two different things.

 

[candrew]

Scalding reproachment by the NY Times. Surprising.

https://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/opinion/president-obamas-dragnet.html?_r=1&

The scalding part is this breaks in the foreign press and the US press acts like they haven't known about this for years.

 

[Harambe]

exactly likely a trial.
tell that to those guys in guantanamo.

i did not say kill americans.
I said if america occupy's the country i live in like they do iraq and afghanistan. i would be killing soldiers.
but maybe you dont see the differnce between an occupying force ala afghanistan or iraq(in the name of freedom and democracy) and just some american in a country.
two different things.

Who said I'd be giving you a trial? The government might, I won't.

 

[candrew]

Well the whistleblower has come forward....https://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-why

LOL....the ****ing dude is hiding out in Hong Kong.

 

[The Thriller]

I agree with you on many things, but come on man, I can't believe you are trying to make this comparison.

You're right! I don't know what I was thinking. Lol. I think I just got home late from work and saw a bunch of Facebook updates that bugged me.

 

[leftyjace]

You're right! I don't know what I was thinking. Lol. I think I just got home late from work and saw a bunch of Facebook updates that bugged me.

Drunk posting. Admit it.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Who said I'd be giving you a trial? The government might, I won't.

dont make me laugh keyboard warrior.
no need to take it personal? or are you a soldier thats hwy you are taking it personal?
just saying the thrid reich sounded mighty awesome on paper.
yet german soldiers where targets.
america's freedom and democracy and constitution sounds perfect on paper.
so yeah same situation. if they come to a country to bring freedom and democracy. it will be a big fat lie

but hey sorry if i offended you.

i'm all for america on paper.
love the idea of the constitution and amendments and right to bear arms yada yada.

but obeezy the commie is raping it

 

[Duck Rodgers]

I also have no problem with this, at all. I have nothing to hide and am not doing anything the government could possibly care about. If they want to watch me yank it and watch basketball on my comp have at it and I apologize in advance for my huge, unkept bush.

Then think of that same scenario if you were to run for political office and they had all of sorts of stuff to blackmail you with. Or you were a CEO. Or anybody else that has power. Or if they just didn't like you and wanted to ruin your life because you attended an-anti (the Next Republican Presidential) rally or something and caused a stir. Boom, the Baby Peters perving it up video hits the Internet to discredit you. This data mining is more important in those ways of control than for any Homeland Security purpose.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Then think of that same scenario if you were to run for political office and they had all of sorts of stuff to blackmail you with. Or you were a CEO. Or anybody else that has power. Or if they just didn't like you and wanted to ruin your life because you attended an-anti (the Next Republican Presidential) rally or something and caused a stir. Boom, the Baby Peters perving it up video hits the Internet to discredit you. This data mining is more important in those ways of control than for any Homeland Security purpose.

or you are a member of a club or something.
and then one day that club gets branded a terrorist organization. then you are tottally screwed.
or how about this stupid law that when you are 19 years old and have a 17 year old girlfriend but you live in a foreign country(where it is perfectly legal. then you go on vacation to the usa then they decide to get though and make an example out of you. you get arrested for sexual crimes.

yeah good luck with that