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This could be the worst Utah Jazz team we've ever seen.

UGLI baby said:
Can't speak for everyone, but im surprised how bad we've been. I thought we'd win 28 games.

Im happy about it, but surprised.


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Plenty to be disappointed in Corbin's coaching, but the losing overreaction isn't about any of his issues.

I call Trick and Log's criticism of Corbin "midget rigidity". No venue to discuss that.
 
franklin said:
Plenty to be disappointed in Corbin's coaching, but the losing overreaction isn't about any of his issues.

I call Trick and Log's criticism of Corbin "midget rigidity". No venue to discuss that.
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How did I get sucked into this? I haven't posted anything about Corbin since the season started in fact. Frankly I think with this squad Corbin's inadequacies are moot. There is more than enough suckage to go around, and I am rooting for the first ever 0-82 season, just to get in the record books.
 
LogGrad98 said:
How did I get sucked into this? I haven't posted anything about Corbin since the season started in fact. Frankly I think with this squad Corbin's inadequacies are moot. There is more than enough suckage to go around, and I am rooting for the first ever 0-82 season, just to get in the record books.
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Something wrong with pointing out your top notch criticism as the standard-bearer?
 
franklin said:
Something wrong with pointing out your top notch criticism as the standard-bearer?
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I never considered myself the standard bearer of anything. If you choose to assert that, then fine I guess. But I have withheld commentary about Corbin so far this season as this squad is so rough that I have my doubts that any other coach would realistically do any better.
 
It's remarkable how stupid some of you are. The Jazz being the worst team in the NBA isn't a good thing - it just shows our core is overrated and that the team has nothing to put around whatever young stud they draft. They'll struggle for years, and even if they draft an eventual superstar it's guaranteed the guy will leave the Jazz the second he can. I see us having a few good years similar to the Hornets with Paul, and that team won one playoff series.
 
underKANTER said:
Our guys are not fighting, not even trying. I have no problem with losing as long as we at least show some energy. We could have had this starting five:

Favors
Kanter
Carroll
Hayward
Bledsoe
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We won't get Wiggins if Bledsoe is our PG. That boy is a FIGHTER.

#Main_Man
 
Nicksti said:
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No way this is fun.

Cheering for our team to lose goes against everything it means to be a fan. We want to see our team win at best and be competitive at worst.

" you got us this time but we will get you next time "

Seeing the lowly Celtics rout us in the 2nd Q makes it difficult to see the big picture. What exactly is the big picture? One rookie will save us? Immediately or 3 years in? Rookies do not save us if we continue to get killed on the free agent market by Big Market teams.

This is painful.
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Did you remember how bad the Sonics were before moving to OKC? Then OKC needed to suck 1 more year to get Harden to complete their contending team.


That's where we are ATM IMO. It's part of the process - enjoy it while it lasts.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Did you remember how bad the Sonics were before moving to OKC? Then OKC needed to suck 1 more year to get Harden to complete their contending team.


That's where we are ATM IMO. It's part of the process - enjoy it while it lasts.
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I hate it when people compare us to OKC. For every OKC there are a dozen Washington Wizards or Charlotte Bobcats who get in the lottery for multiple seasons and don't have every single one of their draft picks end up being superstars. And the Jazz haven't exactly shown a knack for drafting superstars - our core has four players drafted in the top 10 and I think it's safe to say at this point that not a one of them is superstar material.
 
The Norm said:
I hate it when people compare us to OKC. For every OKC there are a dozen Washington Wizards or Charlotte Bobcats who get in the lottery for multiple seasons and don't have every single one of their draft picks end up being superstars. And the Jazz haven't exactly shown a knack for drafting superstars - our core has four players drafted in the top 10 and I think it's safe to say at this point that not a one of them is superstar material.
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Both Wizards and Bobcats have had very unstable ownership situation over the past 5 years or so. Also their FO has been very very questionable.

GSW showed us how to do "tanking" properly when they got Barnes, then shot straight to contention last year. May you can think of that instead if OKC is a dirty word in your vocab.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Both Wizards and Bobcats have had very unstable ownership situation over the past 5 years or so. Also their FO has been very very questionable.

GSW showed us how to do "tanking" properly when they got Barnes, then shot straight to contention last year. May you can think of that instead if OKC is a dirty word in your vocab.
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Utah's FO has been extremely questionable ever since Larry Miller died - they're just lucky enough to have a fanbase that's willing to make excuses for them over and over.

And drafting Barnes had little to do with GSW's launch into contender status. I can't believe I even have to point that out.
 
underKANTER said:
Our guys are not fighting, not even trying. I have no problem with losing as long as we at least show some energy. We could have had this starting five:

Favors
Kanter
Carroll
Hayward
Bledsoe
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Is that team going to compete for a championship? What is it about Carroll that some people LOVE so much? The guy is a scrub. He plays hard, plays to the crowd and is a really great guy. But basketball-wise, he's a 9th/10th guy at best. Bledsoe...yes, I guess he may have been worth going after. I'll hold off on that for now, as we don't know how Burke is going to turn out. Obviously, Lindsey thought Trey was a better prospect. Please don't argue we could have traded for him last season. We couldn't. There were rumors, but then even stronger rumors that LA took him off the market because they were unsure about Paul re-signing.
 
The Norm said:
Utah's FO has been extremely questionable ever since Larry Miller died - they're just lucky enough to have a fanbase that's willing to make excuses for them over and over.

And drafting Barnes had little to do with GSW's launch into contender status. I can't believe I even have to point that out.
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Wow.. are you comparing our FO to the Bobcats and the Wizards right now? Jordan's willingness to spend has helped the Cats greatly since he has taken over eh?

I didn't say Barnes was the reason they shot into contention last year (reading comprehension). All I said was that's how you "tank" with injuries, subbing, etc, in order to add another piece of the puzzle to help your team win.
 
The Norm said:
It's remarkable how stupid some of you are. The Jazz being the worst team in the NBA isn't a good thing - it just shows our core is overrated and that the team has nothing to put around whatever young stud they draft. They'll struggle for years, and even if they draft an eventual superstar it's guaranteed the guy will leave the Jazz the second he can. I see us having a few good years similar to the Hornets with Paul, and that team won one playoff series.
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You clearly have no grasp of the concept of asset management.
 
underKANTER said:
Our guys are not fighting, not even trying. I have no problem with losing as long as we at least show some energy. We could have had this starting five:

Favors
Kanter
Carroll
Hayward
Bledsoe
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I was saying before the lockout to tank then. Short season, the losses pile up and the season ends quickly. We would have gotten GS's pick and could have had this team:

Lilliard
Hayward
Barnes
Kanter
Favors

And we would be experienced by now. We would be a top 4 team in the West.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Wow.. are you comparing our FO to the Bobcats and the Wizards right now? Jordan's willingness to spend has helped the Cats greatly since he has taken over eh?

I didn't say Barnes was the reason they shot into contention last year (reading comprehension). All I said was that's how you "tank" with injuries, subbing, etc, in order to add another piece of the puzzle to help your team win.
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I'm not comparing our FO to anybody. I'm simply saying they aren't very good and expecting them to be capable of pulling an OKC is wishful thinking at best, when their track record in drafting more closely resembles teams that have been perpetually bad.

I still don't know where you're going with the Warriors - even without Barnes the talent level of their core is and always has been far above Utah's.
 
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