This one's on Deron

[NUMBERICA]

I don't know if you are blind or just bias but I would like to see you play basketball with one arm. DW is out there playing with one arm because he is a competitor and he wants to play. The fact that you don't think Rose is that good only supports my opinion that you may just lack some basketball knowledge.

I'm one of the biggest supporters/defenders of Deron on this site. A bum wrist doesn't explain his effort through 3 quarters, or his rookie mistakes in the 4th.

 

[sahlensguy]

I'm one of the biggest supporters/defenders of Deron on this site. A bum wrist doesn't explain his effort through 3 quarters, or his rookie mistakes in the 4th.

He has shown this year, a habit of not defending home court like we've been spoiled with in the past.

 

[NAOS]

Ah, Numberica, you're allowed to start a reckless thread every now and then.... especially if you are right.

There were focus issues out there last night, and they started and ended with Deron. Al and Millsap looked great. This has me concerned that Deron is at the center of the post-game saga. We'll see, but I don't have a good feeling about this.

 

[NotDeadYet]

DWill certainly had an 'off' game here. I doubt it was all on his bum wrist; carrying the leadership flag by himself may be taking it's toll on him, especially with having to deal with the media every day. It does become a distraction.
Yeah, the turnovers were very uncharacteristic, and his shot was really off, but Rose is a tough guy to guard, as he takes more shots than most PG's.

 

[bordelais7]

Deron.en gives me a 404

 

[moevillini]

P.S. The edit options on this site are terrible. Sorry the cursor on my laptop sometimes flies around and causes errors to the thread title that I can't fix (unless I'm missing something).

hope it's fixed correctly - - and yeah, as far as I know, only a mod/admin can edit the actual thread title

 

[sahlensguy]

DWill certainly had an 'off' game here. I doubt it was all on his bum wrist; carrying the leadership flag by himself may be taking it's toll on him, especially with having to deal with the media every day. It does become a distraction.
Yeah, the turnovers were very uncharacteristic, and his shot was really off, but Rose is a tough guy to guard, as he takes more shots than most PG's.

He called out Hayward early on in the season before all the pressure even built up. His true colors came out then.

Face it, he's an a-hole who has yet to learn how to lead a team.

 

[moevillini]

DWill certainly had an 'off' game here. I doubt it was all on his bum wrist; carrying the leadership flag by himself may be taking it's toll on him, especially with having to deal with the media every day. It does become a distraction....

and the media seemed to be an even bigger distraction in this particular instance - not just the return of Boozer, Korver and Brewer but also the D-Will/D-Rose comparisons

maybe it got into his head as much as it appeared to get into Boozer's




and I posted this somewhere in another thread somewhere, but it seems like a good response here:

He called out Hayward early on in the season before all the pressure even built up. His true colors came out then.

Face it, he's an a-hole who has yet to learn how to lead a team.

...Delicious debate: So, former Jazz players Kyle Korver and Ronnie Brewer: Who is better, Williams or Rose?

"They're both capable of taking over games," Korver said. "Derrick is quieter, a lot quieter, which isn't necessarily good or bad. It's just a difference in personality.

"Derrick speaks up when he has to and is definitely the leader of the team but he's not as vocal in the locker room. Deron is a little bigger. Derrick is perhaps the most explosive athlete in the NBA.

Added Brewer: "The only similarity I see between the two is on the court they're all business and serious about winning. DRose is one of the fastest, most athletic guys in the game. DWil is the ultimate floor general, able to tell guys where they're going to be."

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-0210-bits-bulls-jazz-chicago--20110209,0,341060.story

 

[sahlensguy]

and the media seemed to be an even bigger distraction in this particular instance - not just the return of Boozer, Korver and Brewer but also the D-Will/D-Rose comparisons

maybe it got into his head as much as it appeared to get into Boozer's

Because Utah's media is so tough? Give me a break, it's not New York.

DWill has a major attitude problem, nothing more. Player of the month for November, but has played with a stick up his butt ever since.

 

[cowhide]

Boozer also played. I guess he's a competitor too huh?

DWill didn't bring the urgency. Cant blame that on his wrist.

Was Boozer hurt? If you can't look past your personal bias to see that DW is basically dragging his arm around then I don't know what else can be said. Funny how some Jazz fanz give some Jazz players excuses(AK, Korver, Memo( before major injury)etc. when they are hurt but other players (DW, Boozer, heck even Millsap's poor play was criticized even though he is playing hurt) get slammed for their performances. If you are implying DW didn't play with confidence or was tentative then I would agree with you. Urgency makes it sound like he didn't care? I respectively disagree with you. I think DW was up for the game and ready to play. He just can't be as effective due to the injury. Personally, I think he should sit until he is better but DW hates missing games and if he did DW haters would be all over his @$$.

 

[moevillini]

...In a marquee matchup of All-Star point guards with Utah’s Deron Williams, the former Illinois star, Rose clearly had the upper hand. He had a game-high 29 points and made two huge plays in the final minute — one on offense and one on defense — to help the Bulls (35-16) avoid their first three-game losing streak.

“Phenomenal,” Boozer said of Rose. “After the game, I told him he’s a bad . . . I can’t say the word I said. He’s a bad man. Humble, aggressive, made shot after shot, tough shots, made defensive play after defensive play.

“He was a man for us tonight.”

Williams had 11 points and 12 assists and committed two crucial turnovers in the final minute.

“It was a tough loss,” Williams said. “Put it on me because at the end of the game, I had the ball in my hands. I’ve gotta make the plays to win the game. Two turnovers, not characteristic of me. Put it on me.”

This was mostly a sloppy game, and you could tell that players on both sides were a little more emotional than normal. Finally, the game came down to a few key possessions down the stretch....

https://www.suntimes.com/sports/basketball/bulls/3742533-419/rose-outpoints-williams-bulls-edge-jazz-91-86.html

 

[cowhide]

DWill certainly had an 'off' game here. I doubt it was all on his bum wrist; carrying the leadership flag by himself may be taking it's toll on him, especially with having to deal with the media every day. It does become a distraction.
Yeah, the turnovers were very uncharacteristic, and his shot was really off, but Rose is a tough guy to guard, as he takes more shots than most PG's.

Yea Rose is a tough matchup but the wrist is a MAJOR problem. He wasn't even looking to take a jumpshot last night. DW is hurt and frustrated probably because of the injury and the losing. AGain DW will be fine if he can get healthy. The losing might destroy him before the wrist injury.

 

[sahlensguy]

Was Boozer hurt?

It wouldn't be out of character to have missed last nights game by 'extending' his ankle injury. He did miss his Cleveland return as a Jazz player. Yet Carlos did play. So is he as competitive as DWill now?

If you are implying DW didn't play with confidence or was tentative then I would agree with you. Urgency makes it sound like he didn't care? I respectively disagree with you. I think DW was up for the game and ready to play. He just can't be as effective due to the injury. Personally, I think he should sit until he is better but DW hates missing games and if he did DW haters would be all over his @$$.

I am implying that DWill didn't care. I don't think he's cared much since he was awarded the November player of the month. He has taken his ability as the Jazz's best player into a "let me show you how much we suck when I don't give it my all" attitude in many games since. Last night wasn't so isolated an incident.

Injuries suck and any wrist injury puts a guy at less than 100%, but few players are at 100% this time of the season. Derrick Rose had a double ulcer and constantly gets hammered. DWill just needs to and can play much better. No excuses.