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Thoughts on "black face" costumes this Halloween

There is no "tone" in forums or txt messages for that matter. How you right something is not often how people read it so choice of words and grammar is important.
Yeah there actually is. Using words like "say" shows that it is meant hypothetically, as well as stating up front that it is meant as a point of discussion shows I am not actually, in fact, looking for people's opinions on my halloween costume. That is just grammar. Sorry you couldn't catch that. I will be sure to make it very clear from now on.
 
There is no "tone" in forums or txt messages for that matter. How you right something is not often how people read it so choice of words and grammar is important.

I fully understood what he was saying. You judged him unfairly his choice of words and grammar wasn’t the problem, but your bias. IMO


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So this question came about because the other night we had 8 teenage girls in our home getting ready for a halloween dance at school. It has been great for my daughter for our move to California for many reasons, not the least of which was that she is exposed to a much higher level of diversity. Of the 8 girls, 2 of them were caucasian. The others were a very broad assortment, including 4 that were either african american, or mixed race (mom black, dad hispanic, like that). They were talking about this because it was all over social media. One of the black girls mentioned that she didn't think it was any big deal, but another one said her mom and dad told her that it was very offensive. It kind of made me think, how is this viewed, and how it is propagated. If her parents had never told her that would it still be offensive. If we raised an entire generation and did not tell them what they needed to be offended by would a lot of this just die out?

Another question that we discussed was is "whiteface" the same as "blackface". They were split, and it was very interesting to hear them discuss it. I just asked questions along the way and listened. 15, 16, and 17 year olds can put together some good arguments, and think more deeply than people might think. I found it very enlightening. So I thought it would be a good topic of discussion here.

The innocence of youth...
 
Yeah there actually is. Using words like "say" shows that it is meant hypothetically, as well as stating up front that it is meant as a point of discussion shows I am not actually, in fact, looking for people's opinions on my halloween costume. That is just grammar. Sorry you couldn't catch that. I will be sure to make it very clear from now on.

I fully understood what he was saying. You judged him unfairly his choice of words and grammar wasn’t the problem, but your bias. IMO


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Thats reading comprehension. Not tone.
 
Just out of curiosity, who do you admire simply because they are black? If you don't admire someone because of their blackness, why imitate it?
I'm not certain that this logic really follows, and I'm not talking about race. Any costume anyone puts on is intended to bear some type of physical likeness to the individual, person, character, or thing they are looking to portray. In most cases those portrayals are not the underlying reasons one has chosen to imitate or admire. I.e., my son was Donovan for Halloween. He did that by wearing his jersey. Donovan's jersey isn't what my son admires about Donovan, but it is a physical symbol of the person. I saw someone on social media who had gone as RBG, and did so by wearing large glasses, having similar hair, and wearing a judge's robe. I would suspect that their admiration for RBG had little to nothing to do with her glasses, her hair, or her judicial attire. So, I suppose you can make whatever argument you want about it being offensive, which isn't what I'm arguing, but the argument that you only imitate what you admire doesn't really hold any water.
 
So, I suppose you can make whatever argument you want about it being offensive, which isn't what I'm arguing, but the argument that you only imitate what you admire doesn't really hold any water.

I agree that you do not only imitate the specific traits you admire. However, if it is not a trait you admire, why adopt it in an offensive manner?
 
I dont see why anyone should take offense in the vast majority of these situations. I'd like someone who could be offended to explain why they are. Not you white boys trying to impress your classmates, not some black kid generations detached and likely doesn't give a rat's ***, not some rabble rousing talking head, but someone who actually has reason to be offended.
 
So being a libertarian you obviously support NFL players kneeling during the anthem?
acutally i do.

but then by same token nfl should have allowed the parying atfer a touch down.

i just see it as a bad business decision. some people watch sports for escapism. they want to relax sitback and enjoy. not ebing hit over the head again with a in my(and their opinion a misplaced protest)

so as much as i support collin keaps protest. i support the people tpo no longer patronize the bussines(in this case nfl)

if you someone opens up a restaurant, and every time they serve food, before they give it to you to go into this prayer bellssing the food in a religoun you ar enot part of. or starts lecturing you on politics. would you still patronize that restaurant. i would not well maybe unless it's a jewish restaurant. but then again it's not a smart business choise.

you see i'm no hypocrite liort keap to refuse to stand, and i support the baker to refuse to bake cake x y or z! if you dont llike dont give that business your money SIMPLE AS THAT
 
I dont see why anyone should take offense in the vast majority of these situations. I'd like someone who could be offended to explain why they are. Not you white boys trying to impress your classmates, not some black kid generations detached and likely doesn't give a rat's ***, not some rabble rousing talking head, but someone who actually has reason to be offended.
And you're the one who gets to judge if they get to be offended?
 
I support ben en jerry having the liberty to make Ben jerrys REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ice cream.

but you then must my liberty tpo not buy ben en jerry's because they will use my money to donate to tyrannical governments who stand for disarming law abiding citizens! you see i never voted in my live never did voting is wrong.

ok i am lying i vote with my WALLET! simple as that! i dont like what you do you dont get my money!
 
This whole thing is just idiotic. It's like those white people who complain that they can't say the N word. (I have a whole other rant about THAT, by the way.) Why, exactly, do you WANT to offend people so bad? I mean yeah, I get being a snotnosed punk, but have some basic freaking human decency.
 
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