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Who’s with me on the tank?!

  • Yes

    Votes: 18 35.3%

  • No

    Votes: 33 64.7%
  • Total voters
    51
LoPo said:
One low key situation to monitor is Washington. Not only are they in the luxury again this year, but they are going to try to keep Oubre and probably Satoransky this coming summer. Here are two scenarios to monitor:

Otto Porter (less likely) - if made available, we could make a play for him. We could send a pick and take Mahinmi off their hands depending who all we send out.

Mahinmi - sure, he is worthless but his contract is almost exactly like Favors just one more year. His deal will keep Washington from keeping their core. If Washington could trade worthless Mahinmi for helpful expiring Favors, I bet we could get Troy Brown and a 1st, future pick swaps, something. Its a deal that wouldn't sacrifice 2020 cap space when there are more realistic, better fit targets out there.

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Here my issues with your trade idea s. They are all one sided. To think Washnigton would not only give up Brown but a future first as well shows how out of the loop you are. Shows you play NBA 2k to much and makes grades after every game you play.
 
Knowledgeofmine said:
Here my issues with your trade idea s. They are all one sided. To think Washnigton would not only give up Brown but a future first as well shows how out of the loop you are. Shows you play NBA 2k to much and makes grades after every game you play.
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They could stretch Ian too which would take a lot of the luxury tax sting out of the deal.

I do think they end up moving Otto but won’t be until the offseason imo. Assuming they are middle of the pack eastern conference team and don’t make a conference finals or something crazy.
 
Knowledgeofmine said:
Here my issues with your trade idea s. They are all one sided. To think Washnigton would not only give up Brown but a future first as well shows how out of the loop you are. Shows you play NBA 2k to much and makes grades after every game you play.
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Every trade idea I have is the start of the conversation. If you think GM's come out and start trade conversations with 100% even deals, you just don't understand the process. You start by reaching and then you concede some and you meet in the agreed upon middle.

Washington is in luxury repeater hell. Sure, they could stretch Mahinmi, but keeping Oubre at $15+ and stretching Oubre at $5 million per year the next 3 years will keep them in luxury hell for the foreseeable future. They aren't the type team that can sustain those type costs at mediocre results.

If we can conceive a trade that allows Washington to save enough money to get under the luxury ($6+) while also getting an upgrade as good as Favors, I don't think anything is off the table. In 3 games, Brown hasn't even touched the floor. I'm not saying he's not part of the future there, but Oubre and Porter seem like cornerstones they can't afford to lose.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think Favs was signed as a placeholder and trade asset that might workout long term. Based on other signings and picks I think it’s clear it likely isn’t a long term partnership. DL knows all the lineup data and then some so he knows how could we are with stretch 4s.

I think we poke around some stuff in trades but then look at some of the B+/ A- free agents. Zach Lowe basically said we are looking arhat tier of player... Middleton, Harris, Niko

We can place calls to the super duper stars (and we likely will) but I doubt that call gets very far and that’s the end of it.

If OP Jr., Tobias Harris, Middleton (I highly doubt this one), or Love become available at a decent/discounted price then I can see us being more aggressive.

Give the current arrangement 4-6 weeks... let the sauce marinate.
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whats the chance at aaron gordon in comparison to some of these dudes? Is he a complete pipe dream at this point? (i have no idea his contract situation btw so be gentle)
 
fishonjazz said:
whats the chance at aaron gordon in comparison to some of these dudes? Is he a complete pipe dream at this point? (i have no idea his contract situation btw so be gentle)
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He's another good target. Depends on how Orlando plays, but he could be had at some point. Signed a 4/80M ish deal this offseason. Pretty reasonable honestly. It declines so would be very team friendly.

If exum plays well and is healthy I could see a Exum, 1st, and cap filler for Gordon... if Orlando struggles. They may be able to get more... their new GM is a sucker for length, so the thought of Dante at point likely would make him salivate more than most.
 
Could possibly be a bottom 3 team in the West! Phoenix, Dallas and the Jazz!!!

Letsgoooooooo!!!!!
 
Zion Williamson plays like a 6'8" 280 lb Donovan Mitchell, good gawd.
 
This tank thread needs to be re-titled. Last year the tank thread was Tanknote... this year needs to be #tankiseverything
 
Expectations for the season were clearly too high. It was an advantage last year thinking we wouldn't compete and rising up to do so. Now we get a taste of the other side of the spectrum. I really hope we can turn things around, I don't want to be able to sympathize with Kings and Nets fans.
 
It's a 10-game sample size. No maybe the Jazz aren't as good at a random 10-game sample size post all-star break last year, but they also aren't as bad as the 10-game sample size to this year. Somewhere in the middle, legit playoff team. Pump the brakes guys.

Also to the tanking crowd, we (fortunately to me) do not have that option with DM and Gobert, they are too good. You've got to have scrubs top to bottom to purposely tank.
 
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