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https://www.cnn.com/2014/08/10/justice/tony-stewart-hits-driver/index.html

(CNN) -- NASCAR driver Tony Stewart hit and killed another driver who was walking on a track during a dirt-track race in upstate New York, authorities said early Sunday.
Kevin Ward Jr., 20, died from injuries suffered in the incident, which occurred Saturday night at the Empire Super Sprints series event at the Canandaigua Motorsports Park.
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To me this looks like manslaughter. Watch the video and share your take.
 
Whoops, off my game, meant to post this in general...
 
If you watch the full video on youtube it does look like Stewart actually swerves to hit the guy. Not good.
 
orangello said:
When I told my wife about this she was mad at the guy walking on the track. After she saw the video her face got white and she said it looked like it was done on purpose.
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Guy was an idiot for putting himself in that situation. What the hell was he thinking walking onto a track during a race! On dirt no less where it takes longer to stop.

As a result of that I think that Stewart gets off right or wrong.
 
Stoked said:
Guy was an idiot for putting himself in that situation. What the hell was he thinking walking onto a track during a race! On dirt no less where it takes longer to stop.

As a result of that I think that Stewart gets off right or wrong.
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I agree. Go to the sidelines and do your pointing.
 
It does look like he swerve to hit him in fast motion. But I wonder if his car pulled to the right as soon as he hit him, making it look like he swerved into him.
 
I'm always behind the times on JazzFanz, but welcome back Gameface! On topic, I haven't brought myself to watch the video of this yet. I was dumb enough to watch the Paul George injury, but I don't think I'm up for seeing a fatality.
 
nightmare3983 said:
I'm always behind the times on JazzFanz, but welcome back Gameface! On topic, I haven't brought myself to watch the video of this yet. I was dumb enough to watch the Paul George injury, but I don't think I'm up for seeing a fatality.
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To be fair you don't see much. It is the wrong angle to really see what happened. It may be that the guy tried to kick Stewart's car or grab onto it or something that caused him to be dragged by the car, as it does appear he gets pulled a decent distance in the video, but with the angle all you see is Stewart's car pull to the right then you see the other driver laying on the dirt.
 
Don't all these rednecks keep cameras in the cab? I'm sure that has the best angles. If so, I'm guessing it's been confiscated by the cops.

From what I've seen so far without a doubt this guy needs to be charged with vehicular manslaughter.
 
The stuff I've read from the eyewitnesses say that Stewart hit the gas as he was by the guy, which in a dirt track is known to slide the tail end right. He hit the guy on purpose, but the guy got pulled under the tire, drug a bit, then flung out.

They are saying he was hit on purpose and it wasn't an accident, and that after Stewart had his right rear tire removed from the car, replaced with another tire, and he and his crew burned the tire.

Not good.
 
candrew said:
Don't all these rednecks keep cameras in the cab? I'm sure that has the best angles. If so, I'm guessing it's been confiscated by the cops.

From what I've seen so far without a doubt this guy needs to be charged with vehicular manslaughter.
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Heard Stewart had a go pro on his car, but not sure if he trashed it. Haven't heard about video from it.
Would be interested to know if another driver had a camera with a decent angle.
 
candrew said:
Don't all these rednecks keep cameras in the cab? I'm sure that has the best angles. If so, I'm guessing it's been confiscated by the cops.

From what I've seen so far without a doubt this guy needs to be charged with vehicular manslaughter.
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Please explain. I see nothing that proves without a doubt that he should be charged. Kevin Ward, Jr. made a conscious decision to get out of his vehicle, aggressively seek out Stewart (while wearing all black in the middle of the night on a dimly lit track) and tragically got hit and killed. We can not tell if Stewart accelerated as first reported and which if I'm being honest, it looks like he did to me. To continue, we also can't definitively tell if Stewart swerved toward the guy intentionally as many on here say. Like Hack said, his car may have pulled to the right. On WFAN, I had heard the driver in front of Stewart swerved out of the way last second, thus perhaps giving Stewart minimal time to react. I also heard that Stewart actually tried to avoid the guy. So who knows.

The video footage is so inconclusive to me that I would have an extremely hard time charging, let alone convicting, Tony Stewart here. Like you said though, I wonder if these cars have video footage. FWIW, I do think Stewart's a complete dick and probably did accelerate some, in his mind in those milliseconds, thinking, **** this little punk. I ain't movin'. I'll show him, thus having intent to at least harm the guy. Or something like that. But proving there's intent or that it's even negligent homicide or manslaughter here seems like a stretch given the mediocre video footage and eyewitnesses who can't possibly testify as to what was going through Tony Stewart's mind in those hundredths of a second.
 
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QuinSnydersHair said:
Please explain. I see nothing that proves without a doubt that he should be charged. Tony Stewart's history of being a dick aside, Kevin Ward, Jr. made a conscientious decision to get out of his vehicle, aggressively seek out Stewart (while wearing all black in the middle of the night on a dimly lit rack) and tragically got hit and killed. We can not tell if Stewart accelerated as first reported and which if I'm being honest, it looks like he did to me--look at everyone else's speed and look at Stewart's. To continue, we also can't definitively tell if Stewart swerved toward the guy intentionally as many on here say. Like Hack said, his car may have pulled to the right. Dirt can do that. On WFAN, I had heard the driver in front of Stewart swerved out of the way last second, thus perhaps giving Stewart minimal time to react. I also heard that Stewart actually tried to avoid the guy. So who knows.

The video footage is so inconclusive to me that I would have an extremely hard time charging, let alone convicting, Tony Stewart here. Like you said though, I wonder if these cars have video footage.
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QuinSnydersHair said:
FWIW, I do think Stewart's a complete dick and probably did accelerate some, in his mind in those milliseconds, thinking, **** this little punk. I ain't movin'. I'll show him, thus having intent to at least harm the guy. Or something like that. But proving there's intent or that it's even negligent homicide or manslaughter here seems like a stretch given the mediocre video footage and eyewitnesses who can't possibly testify as to what was going through Tony Stewart's mind in those hundredths of a second.
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It's possible he swerved and hit him, but it's also just as possible he didn't even see him. It's dark, chaos ensuing, and not to mention with the dirt track, causing visibility issues + it being dark, then consider the fact that the driver that was killed just lost his damn mind and did something stupid. Let's just go jump out in front of Stewarts car.

You just can't convict on the evidence we've seen, maybe authorities have or seen something we don't, but all the evidence to me says it's an accident.
 
Hack said:
It does look like he swerve to hit him in fast motion. But I wonder if his car pulled to the right as soon as he hit him, making it look like he swerved into him.
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This is what people are saying.

The car in front of him had to swerve and barely missed and then Stewart had even less time to respond.. turned quickly, car fishtailed... dirt track.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
Please explain. I see nothing that proves without a doubt that he should be charged. Kevin Ward, Jr. made a conscious decision to get out of his vehicle, aggressively seek out Stewart (while wearing all black in the middle of the night on a dimly lit track) and tragically got hit and killed. We can not tell if Stewart accelerated as first reported and which if I'm being honest, it looks like he did to me. To continue, we also can't definitively tell if Stewart swerved toward the guy intentionally as many on here say. Like Hack said, his car may have pulled to the right. On WFAN, I had heard the driver in front of Stewart swerved out of the way last second, thus perhaps giving Stewart minimal time to react. I also heard that Stewart actually tried to avoid the guy. So who knows.

The video footage is so inconclusive to me that I would have an extremely hard time charging, let alone convicting, Tony Stewart here. Like you said though, I wonder if these cars have video footage. FWIW, I do think Stewart's a complete dick and probably did accelerate some, in his mind in those milliseconds, thinking, **** this little punk. I ain't movin'. I'll show him, thus having intent to at least harm the guy. Or something like that. But proving there's intent or that it's even negligent homicide or manslaughter here seems like a stretch given the mediocre video footage and eyewitnesses who can't possibly testify as to what was going through Tony Stewart's mind in those hundredths of a second.
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Ward went out on a track with a yellow (caution flag) out. Stupid, yes, but it wasn't like it was during full speed racing. And the fact that the other cars actually were able to properly swerve to the left (and tires turning to the left away from Ward) makes you wonder why Stewart's car appeared to rev up when passing. It also appears that his tires actually turned toward Stewart, not away as the other cars did to avoid him. I have a hard time believing the track was that dim when a camera in the stands was able to video such a clear shot. Based on the video, it looks deliberate. I think there is at least enough there to charge him (based on what we saw). And if he really destroyed the tire and GoPro footage, it makes him appear more guilty.

I think if you establish testimony from the other drivers that Stewart was clearly visible, etc., would go towards charges being filed. Hopefully they have good police officers that will do a good job determining what actually happened.

Stewart seemed to accelerate to scare or teach Ward a lesson, or even bump him. Even if he didn't intend to kill him (which I really don't think he did), that would be enough for manslaughter and potentially second degree murder depending on the codification of the offenses in NY.
 
I think this is 100% the dude who dieds fault.
 
JAZZGASM said:
Ward went out on a track with a yellow (caution flag) out. Stupid, yes, but it wasn't like it was during full speed racing. And the fact that the other cars actually were able to properly swerve to the left (and tires turning to the left away from Ward) makes you wonder why Stewart's car appeared to rev up when passing. It also appears that his tires actually turned toward Stewart, not away as the other cars did to avoid him. I have a hard time believing the track was that dim when a camera in the stands was able to video such a clear shot. Based on the video, it looks deliberate. I think there is at least enough there to charge him (based on what we saw). And if he really destroyed the tire and GoPro footage, it makes him appear more guilty.

I think if you establish testimony from the other drivers that Stewart was clearly visible, etc., would go towards charges being filed. Hopefully they have good police officers that will do a good job determining what actually happened.

Stewart seemed to accelerate to scare or teach Ward a lesson, or even bump him. Even if he didn't intend to kill him (which I really don't think he did), that would be enough for manslaughter and potentially second degree murder depending on the codification of the offenses in NY.
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You are taking so much more from the video than is even remotely there.
 
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