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Catchall said:
We shouldn't go trading Al Jefferson. He is a) a guy who can play center and produce, and b) our best player right now.
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My thoughts exactly. Jefferson is a frickin' monster in the low post and he's not undersized. When in doubt you trade the guy who's undersized for his position and not nearly as effective down low.
 
Third Picks since 1980:

Year Player Drafted From Drafted By
2010 Derrick Favors Georgia Tech New Jersey
2009 James Harden Arizona State Oklahoma
2008 O.J. Mayo USC Minnesota
2007 Al Horford Florida Atlanta
2006 Adam Morrison Gonzaga Portland
2005 Deron Williams Illinois Jr. Utah
2004 Ben Gordon UConn Jr. Chicago
2003 Carmelo Anthony Syracuse Fr. Denver
2002 Mike Dunleavy Duke Jr. Golden State
2001 Pau Gasol Spain Memphis
2000 Darius Miles HSSr. LA Clippers
1999 Baron Davis UCLA So. NO Hornets
1998 Raef LaFrentz Kansas Denver
1997 Chauncey Billups Colorado Boston
1996 Shareef Abdur-Rahim California Vancouver
1995 Jerry Stackhouse North Carolina Philadelphia
1994 Grant Hill Duke Detroit
1993 Anfernee Hardaway MemphisState Golden State
1992 Christian Laettner Duke Minnesota
1991 Billy Owens Syracuse Sacramento
1990 Chris Jackson Louisiana State Denver
1989 Sean Elliott Arizona San Antonio
1988 Charles Smith Pittsburgh Philadelphia
1987 Dennis Hopson Ohio State New Jersey
1986 Chris Washburn North Carolina State Golden State
1985 Benoit Benjamin Creighton LA Clippers
1984 Michael Jordan North Carolina Chicago
1983 Rodney McCray Louisville Houston
1982 Dominique Wilkins Georgia Utah
1981 Buck Williams Maryland New Jersey
1980 Kevin McHale Minnesota Boston
 
BENTLEY said:
I read an article where Williams said he prefers to be called a 3/4 than a 4/3. He thinks he'll be mainly a small forward in the league. But I might agree with Sepanol. There's something about him that makes me very insecure at the 3 and fearful he's really just a tweener 4. I'd much rather have Kanter. We'll see how the combine and workouts clarify or complicate things.

I think it's possible Kanter might the best in this draft. (although I really want Biyombo's defense somehow).
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I think Derrick Williams could be a dominant power 3. The question is--can he do it for 35 minutes a night, or will he take plays off? That's the problem with Carmello. Some plays he's awesome, and some plays he's coasting in rest-mode.
 
I'm really feeling that we are getting Derrick Williams at #3 overall. The Timberwolves have a need at center and I think that they will take Kanter after Cleveland takes Irving. I would then take Jimmer with the #12 pick. We then go with this depth chart next year:

PG: Devin Harris, Jimmer Fredette, Earl Watson
SG: Gordon Hayward, C.J. Miles, Jimmer Fredette
SF: Derrick Williams/Paul Millsap, Jeremy Evans
PF: Derrick Favors, Paul Millsap/Derrick Williams, Mehmet Okur
C: Al Jefferson, Mehmet Okur/Kyrylo Fesenko
 
I would take Brooks or Selby over Jimmer at 12. I love the fact that the Jazz get the #3 pick and that they can take a swing with the #12. It's like playing with house money.
 
I am seeing all kinds of rumors that Minnesota wants to move the #2 pick, does anyone have any links to any sources?
 
I have come full circle with Jimmer at 12. At first I didn't want him. Then I started to think about his dedication to training. His underrated athletic ability. His freaky good scoring ability. I want to see him in workouts but he might be steal at 12 if he can play a little D.
 
Crack a Beer!

You all owe me. Period. It's Premonition Teusday in Franklinville. Jazz balls don't flop right without my ever so gentle coaching. I stroked us right into a top 3, pure Horny style. You all laughed, then cried, and finally broke down, looked down, and mumbled "yes, daddy". Then, after all the build up to failure, KABOOOM! "Ooh, ooh, yes, Daddy Franklin! What more do you want, DF?"

Check the record books. Who's there? That's right, it's Franklin and NOBODY else. All naysayers-Jazzbadluck and NBAconspiracyagainstthejazz should be 70 percent of the screen names. Just add a 1, 2, or whatever pre/suffix to it.

Screw 2012, I'm having a Tea Party right now, commie bitches. Ye frickin' ha!
 
I hope Williams slips. If we take katner there will have to be a trade to move millsap. Minutes at the 4/5 are tight as is. Especially if memo comes back.
 
franklin said:
Crack a Beer!

You all owe me. Period. It's Premonition Teusday in Franklinville. Jazz balls don't flop right without my ever so gentle coaching. I stroked us right into a top 3, pure Horny style. You all laughed, then cried, and finally broke down, looked down, and mumbled "yes, daddy". Then, after all the build up to failure, KABOOOM! "Ooh, ooh, yes, Daddy Franklin! What more do you want, DF?"

Check the record books. Who's there? That's right, it's Franklin and NOBODY else. All naysayers-Jazzbadluck and NBAconspiracyagainstthejazz should be 70 percent of the screen names. Just add a 1, 2, or whatever pre/suffix to it.

Screw 2012, I'm having a Tea Party right now, commie bitches. Ye frickin' ha!
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Good night, and Good Luck
 
Okur13 said:
I hope Williams slips. If we take katner there will have to be a trade to move millsap. Minutes at the 4/5 are tight as is. Especially if memo comes back.
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If Paul is traded, we could net a nice return. We'll see what happens. Kanter is the pick at 3 IMO if he is there.
 
Unbelievable! Cleveland deserved the #1 after getting LeBron'd. And a touching story about Nick Gilbert. I'm turning cartwheels over the #3. Jazz should definitely be able to get an impact player and then a decent sub with their second pick.
 
GlassEater said:
Unbelievable! Cleveland deserved the #1 after getting LeBron'd. And a touching story about Nick Gilbert. I'm turning cartwheels over the #3. Jazz should definitely be able to get an impact player and then a decent sub with their second pick.
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Good for the kid, but I was a little shocked that 2.8% chance at the 1st pick worked out.
 
I have never been this happy for the Jazz to not make the playoffs in my life! That Deron Williams to New Jersey trade is looking simply astounding right now!
 
jazzman12 said:
My thoughts exactly. Jefferson is a frickin' monster in the low post and he's not undersized. When in doubt you trade the guy who's undersized for his position and not nearly as effective down low.
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i dont argue who is undersized who is not. But what will u do with his contract, lets say if we draft kanter, and we have hayward , favors. They wont play for rookie contract forever. And jefferson will not share his role with any of this guy even though they have a very good performance, so it will be an internal problem for the team
 
sepanol said:
i dont argue who is undersized who is not. But what will u do with his contract, lets say if we draft kanter, and we have hayward , favors. They wont play for rookie contract forever. And jefferson will not share his role with any of this guy even though they have a very good performance, so it will be an internal problem for the team
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Unless Hayward or Favors become max contract guys it's not that big of deal. After AK is done we will have no max contracts. After Memo is done (which is after this year I think) Jefferson will be our only contract over 10 million. I think we are in pretty good shape financially to resign our rookies if they end up being good players.
 
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