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TOR shipping out Bargnani - do we want him?

Do we want Bargnani?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 15.2%

  • No

    Votes: 27 81.8%

  • I want Millsap

    Votes: 1 3.0%
  • Total voters
    33
The Midnight

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Third big off the bench behind Favors & Kanter?

The first order of business for the Raptors’ new general manager Masai Ujiri is shopping Andrea Bargnani everywhere he can, in hopes of getting him traded before July 1.

Bargnani, a former No. 1 overall pick, still has two years and more than $22 million remaining on his contract. A lingering elbow issue has plagued Bargnani for the last two seasons, and had to miss the last 19 Raptors games of the season.

His injury, coupled with his poor defense, inconsistent rebounding and average-at-best shooting has made him a general disappointment for the Raptors.

The team has been looking to trade Bargnani for a while. Former GM Bryan Colangelo publicly admitted that a “change of scenery is probably best for all sides,” but never managed to move Bargnani.

Ujiri may have more success, but even if he can’t trade Bargnani, the Raptors may waive him under the league’s amnesty provision, giving the team a fresh start.
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Link:

https://tracking.si.com/2013/06/01/raptors-andrea-bargnani-trade-deadline/
 
While his size and skill intrigue me greatly, I'll lean on stats and GVC on this one and say no.
 
Yeah, they would amnesty him before trading their pick in a hyped draft when they're destined to suck.
 
He's as soft as they come. Complete bust for a #1 overall pick, and will never deserve major time on an NBA court.
Stay away at all costs.
 
I say NO but if Toronto was dumb enough to give the Jazz an unprotected 2014 1st rounder then I would do it.
 
I can see a sign and trade with Millsap or Jefferson working.

I agree with many others that would demand a pick next year to take on Sucknani.
 
toronto traded this years pick. that means that can't trade next years.

The best we could hope for is Jazz get the ability to swap picks next year. Might move the Jazz up a couple of spots, it might not.
 
mellow said:
toronto traded this years pick. that means that can't trade next years.

The best we could hope for is Jazz get the ability to swap picks next year. Might move the Jazz up a couple of spots, it might not.
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Not if we also trade them the #21. Then next years pick is game. Then the Jazz would have converted a late first rounder in a weak draft into a mid to high lottery pick in a loaded draft.
 
orangello said:
I can see a sign and trade with Millsap or Jefferson working.
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Working how? Why not just re-sign Al or Millsap, who are the superior players (by far)?

I'm having a hard time understanding why the average poster on Jazzfanz seems to want the Jazz to turn into the Kings.
 
GVC said:
Working how? Why not just re-sign Al or Millsap, who are the superior players (by far)?

I'm having a hard time understanding why the average poster on Jazzfanz seems to want the Jazz to turn into the Kings.
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So now I'm average?
 
I would MUCH rather spend 22 mil towards getting Tomic on this team. Seriously.
 
My point is simple. If the Jazz can get a lotto pick next year then it is worth it. I have no interest in the Jazz being the new Kings but lets look at the situation a little deeper.

How many games has Bargnani averaged over his career? Without looking it up I would guess it is around 70 or less. That works with the plan that most of us "average" posters want which is more time for the young guys.

He also has two years left on his deal. That means that the Jazz will have money freed up at the time that Favors and Haywards extensions kick in.

The Jazz still need big man depth. Bargnani will help with that.

Why Bargnani over Millsap? For me it is simple, Millsap is not the same player from his rookie contract. He seems to have more drama in his life. Also, I personally believe that it is time to hand the team over to Hayward/Favors/Kanter. Hayward admitted during the locker room clean out that he deferred to the vets because he thought that was the thing to do. He wants to and needs to take over. Millsap will prohibit that IMO.

And last but not least, a possible lotto pick next year. In an average (there's that word again) draft it wouldn't be worth it. By all accounts the 14' draft is anything but average. The more picks that you can have in it the better, especially when there is a high chance that it is a lotto pick.



I will now go back to my "average" ways.
 
orangello said:
My point is simple. If the Jazz can get a lotto pick next year then it is worth it. I have no interest in the Jazz being the new Kings but lets look at the situation a little deeper.

How many games has Bargnani averaged over his career? Without looking it up I would guess it is around 70 or less. That works with the plan that most of us "average" posters want which is more time for the young guys.

He also has two years left on his deal. That means that the Jazz will have money freed up at the time that Favors and Haywards extensions kick in.

The Jazz still need big man depth. Bargnani will help with that.

Why Bargnani over Millsap? For me it is simple, Millsap is not the same player from his rookie contract. He seems to have more drama in his life. Also, I personally believe that it is time to hand the team over to Hayward/Favors/Kanter. Hayward admitted during the locker room clean out that he deferred to the vets because he thought that was the thing to do. He wants to and needs to take over. Millsap will prohibit that IMO.

And last but not least, a possible lotto pick next year. In an average (there's that word again) draft it wouldn't be worth it. By all accounts the 14' draft is anything but average. The more picks that you can have in it the better, especially when there is a high chance that it is a lotto pick.



I will now go back to my "average" ways.
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Bargnani is too hefty of a contract to take back for a draft pick. This franchise isn't gonna swallow 22 mil for a 9th pick next year. Absorbing a contract along the realms of Shawn Marion makes more sense.
 
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