Tough Day To Be In Law Enforcement

[Gameface]

I advise all people to represent who they are sexually on dating sites.

The idea of you taking this as victim blaming is as expected coming from you.

How dare I!

I agree with you.

I think we all get to make our own decisions about the relationships we enter. This very fantastic notion One Brow is expressing about how a transgender female is a female and should be able to simply exist as a female starts to fall apart in the context of a romantic relationship*. A transgender female looking for a relationship with a cisgender male should filter their dating pool for cisgender males interested in the actual relationship they will be entering.

I also agree that there are very real safety concerns in hiding transgender status from cisgender males. That's not victim blaming in my opinion, that's reality facing transgender females when dealing with potentially violent men. Ask cisgender females about dating. It's ****ing scary for them a lot of the time. They don't know when they might be assaulted and far far too many of them are. That's the reality of dealing with cisgender males. Too many of them are ****ing neanderthals. Don't encourage transgender females to see if the cisgender male "clocks" them. That's a game of life and death that lies squarely on the shoulders of our culture and the way cisgender males are socially expected to behave.

Change the culture before you encourage transgender females to put their lives at risk for these principles. It's not their fault, it's the culture.

*the reality of a transgender female being a female is given great strength and support when she finds a partner that she desires who equally desires her. That can be an amazing affirmation and extremely valuable support for her. That will almost always happen when she finds a partner who is fully aware of who she is and what she needs in the relationship.

Good relationships are built on honesty and trust.

 

[gandalfe]

I agree with you.

I think we all get to make our own decisions about the relationships we enter. This very fantastic notion One Brow is expressing about how a transgender female is a female and should be able to simply exist as a female starts to fall apart in the context of a romantic relationship*. A transgender female looking for a relationship with a cisgender male should filter their dating pool for cisgender males interested in the actual relationship they will be entering.

I also agree that there are very real safety concerns in hiding transgender status from cisgender males. That's not victim blaming in my opinion, that's reality facing transgender females when dealing with potentially violent men. Ask cisgender females about dating. It's ****ing scary for them a lot of the time. They don't know when they might be assaulted and far far too many of them are. That's the reality of dealing with cisgender males. Too many of them are ****ing neanderthals. Don't encourage transgender females to see if the cisgender male "clocks" them. That's a game of life and death that lies squarely on the shoulders of our culture and the way cisgender males are socially expected to behave.

Change the culture before you encourage transgender females to put their lives at risk for these principles. It's not their fault, it's the culture.

*the reality of a transgender female being a female is given great strength and support when she finds a partner that she desires who equally desires her. That can be an amazing affirmation and extremely valuable support for her. That will almost always happen when she finds a partner who is fully aware of who she is and what she needs in the relationship.

Good relationships are built on honesty and trust.

Here's the question, to which I don't know the answer: Is it more dangerous for a trans-woman to be open about it from the beginning, thereby possibly letting guys who want to harass/assault a trans person know who they are from the start, or save it for a date or two, thereby letting herself in for the anger of someone who thinks they've been fooled? There's not an easy answer, although there may be some stats about it, but there are certainly going to be anecdotal data that contradicts that.

And, while we're on the subject: Screw JK Rowling.

 

[fishonjazz]

I agree with you.

I think we all get to make our own decisions about the relationships we enter. This very fantastic notion One Brow is expressing about how a transgender female is a female and should be able to simply exist as a female starts to fall apart in the context of a romantic relationship*. A transgender female looking for a relationship with a cisgender male should filter their dating pool for cisgender males interested in the actual relationship they will be entering.

I also agree that there are very real safety concerns in hiding transgender status from cisgender males. That's not victim blaming in my opinion, that's reality facing transgender females when dealing with potentially violent men. Ask cisgender females about dating. It's ****ing scary for them a lot of the time. They don't know when they might be assaulted and far far too many of them are. That's the reality of dealing with cisgender males. Too many of them are ****ing neanderthals. Don't encourage transgender females to see if the cisgender male "clocks" them. That's a game of life and death that lies squarely on the shoulders of our culture and the way cisgender males are socially expected to behave.

Change the culture before you encourage transgender females to put their lives at risk for these principles. It's not their fault, it's the culture.

*the reality of a transgender female being a female is given great strength and support when she finds a partner that she desires who equally desires her. That can be an amazing affirmation and extremely valuable support for her. That will almost always happen when she finds a partner who is fully aware of who she is and what she needs in the relationship.

Good relationships are built on honesty and trust.

Great post bro

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[fishonjazz]

Here's the question, to which I don't know the answer: Is it more dangerous for a trans-woman to be open about it from the beginning, thereby possibly letting guys who want to harass/assault a trans person know who they are from the start, or save it for a date or two, thereby letting herself in for the anger of someone who thinks they've been fooled? There's not an easy answer, although there may be some stats about it, but there are certainly going to be anecdotal data that contradicts that.

And, while we're on the subject: Screw JK Rowling.

I think it's an easy answer. It's more dangerous to wait a few dates in.

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[Red]

This is a great post, man. You don't have to say or think you're a better man, you are. I admire you.

Don’t make me blush, lol. But thanks. Wishing you and all my friends here a great Independence Day. Stay safe!

 

[Red]

What do people expect to happen?

I don't know the context of what happened before. From what I saw in the video, if you're a jackass bully that surrounds and intimidates people during your protest, you're the instigator and the problem.

I’m not knowledgeable about the context either. But, yeah, cops are human, and nobody enjoys being taunted and taunted. And the video does show taunting. I don’t think there were serious injuries involved, but the cop needed to maintain more discipline than that. Admittedly, easier said than done at times. Given weeks of heated encounters, **** does happen.

 

[One Brow]

While I'm at it...

The ideology behind defining/shaming/blaming people's past is a mob mentality and not helpful imo. It's my whole point in the James Gunn thread. You called me a victim blamer and brought up a thread from 10 years ago. Although I didn't have an outrageous opinion I think differently today because I've grown.

Honest questions, dude. Are people defined by their past? Should their past define them? And lastly, if people change/grow/evolve should we judge their character today by their past?

I also brought up a thread from last year. People change, grow, and evolve from who they were. We always carry that past person inside of us, and it's a constant fight to keep buried what we want to bury of them.

@One Brow you don't think I'm "far right" and yet make offensive, silly and wrong assumptions as if I'm far right.

That assumption had little to do with how far right you aren't.

I advise all people to represent who they are sexually on dating sites.

Yet, you expect women to say they are not really women, which is not representing who they are, but is not the part that is victim-blaming.

Further, you make that advice because you seem to believe that they will encounter violence otherwise, which is the part that is victim-blaming.

 

[One Brow]

I don't know the context of what happened before. From what I saw in the video, if you're a jackass bully that surrounds and intimidates people during your protest, you're the instigator and the problem.

As opposed to a jackass bully that dives a police car into a protest in the first place?

 

[One Brow]

I agree with you.

I think we all get to make our own decisions about the relationships we enter. This very fantastic notion One Brow is expressing about how a transgender female is a female and should be able to simply exist as a female starts to fall apart in the context of a romantic relationship*. A transgender female looking for a relationship with a cisgender male should filter their dating pool for cisgender males interested in the actual relationship they will be entering.

So, a cisgender woman with vaginal scars that make vaginal sex off-limits needs to put this information on a dating site, so all men who might go out with her will know ahead of time the actual relationship they will be entering? Does that also apply to men who have penile deformities? If you don't think either of those situations should apply, why is it different for transgender people?

I also agree that there are very real safety concerns in hiding transgender status from cisgender males. That's not victim blaming in my opinion, that's reality facing transgender females when dealing with potentially violent men. Ask cisgender females about dating. It's ****ing scary for them a lot of the time. They don't know when they might be assaulted and far far too many of them are. That's the reality of dealing with cisgender males. Too many of them are ****ing neanderthals. Don't encourage transgender females to see if the cisgender male "clocks" them. That's a game of life and death that lies squarely on the shoulders of our culture and the way cisgender males are socially expected to behave.

Have you considered the other side of this scary situation? The men who, seeing that a transgender person is on a dating site, will actually set a trap for these women, and the women possibly getting battered by more than one person? If that happens, is the transgender woman at fault for putting that they are transgender on a dating site, making herself a target?

Good relationships are built on honesty and trust.

Honesty and trust is something you build, not take for granted.

 

[One Brow]

I think it's an easy answer. It's more dangerous to wait a few dates in.

Based on how you would react, or the experiences of the people going through it?

 

[Archie Moses]

I agree with you.

I think we all get to make our own decisions about the relationships we enter. This very fantastic notion One Brow is expressing about how a transgender female is a female and should be able to simply exist as a female starts to fall apart in the context of a romantic relationship*. A transgender female looking for a relationship with a cisgender male should filter their dating pool for cisgender males interested in the actual relationship they will be entering.

I also agree that there are very real safety concerns in hiding transgender status from cisgender males. That's not victim blaming in my opinion, that's reality facing transgender females when dealing with potentially violent men. Ask cisgender females about dating. It's ****ing scary for them a lot of the time. They don't know when they might be assaulted and far far too many of them are. That's the reality of dealing with cisgender males. Too many of them are ****ing neanderthals. Don't encourage transgender females to see if the cisgender male "clocks" them. That's a game of life and death that lies squarely on the shoulders of our culture and the way cisgender males are socially expected to behave.

Change the culture before you encourage transgender females to put their lives at risk for these principles. It's not their fault, it's the culture.

*the reality of a transgender female being a female is given great strength and support when she finds a partner that she desires who equally desires her. That can be an amazing affirmation and extremely valuable support for her. That will almost always happen when she finds a partner who is fully aware of who she is and what she needs in the relationship.

Good relationships are built on honesty and trust.

You said it way better than I could have.

 

[fishonjazz]

Based on how you would react, or the experiences of the people going through it?

Based on how I think most people would react.
For me personally I wouldn't be upset at all if someone online told me they were transgender.
If I was going out with someone and didn't know they were transgender and found out a while into the relationship then that would be upsetting to me and to them as well most likely. They wouldn't be in any physical danger from me but we might both be hurt emotionally. Heck, maybe I would be in physical danger from them in this scenario. Maybe they are so mad that I ended the relationship that they hurt me physically.

So in scenario A no one is hurt. In scenario B we might both be hurt.
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[LogGrad98]

My answer to this is yes.

But let me ask another couple of questions

What is it that the radical left wants? What is it that the radical right wants?

What would a world look like if the radical left had all their wildest dreams come true?

Same question for the right.

My guesses? The left wants equality for everyone (though their methods of achieving it aren't always the best). They are against fascism, racism, etc. I think their perfect world everyone is equal, happy and peaceful.

The right wants to be superior to everyone else. They want guns and money. In their perfect world they would have everything they want at the expense of everyone else.

Thoughts?

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I think the word "radical" changes that and that the radicals all want the same thing, compete control over everyone so their ideology is reins supreme, untainted by free thought or differing opinions. This is reflected in "cancel culture" and the fact that the radical left does not hesitate to destroy lives based on accusation and disagreement alone, then more or less brush it off as collateral damage since it serves the higher purpose of bringing the masses in line.

Btw substitute the word "right" for left and it fits exactly as well.

Again, that's the way I see it when you use the word "radical" for either of them.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think the word "radical" changes that and that the radicals all want the same thing, compete control over everyone so their ideology is reins supreme, untainted by free thought or differing opinions. This is reflected in "cancel culture" and the fact that the radical left does not hesitate to destroy lives based on accusation and disagreement alone, then more or less brush it off as collateral damage since it serves the higher purpose of bringing the masses in line.

Btw substitute the word "right" for left and it fits exactly as well.

Again, that's the way I see it when you use the word "radical" for either of them.

Good point

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[fishonjazz]

Saw this and chuckled


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[Joe Bagadonuts]

What do people expect to happen?

I don't know the context of what happened before. From what I saw in the video, if you're a jackass bully that surrounds and intimidates people during your protest, you're the instigator and the problem.

The comments on YouTube certainly weren't written by the usual suspects around JazzFanz. My sense is that the general public has had enough of this nonsense and reading those comments solidifies my belief. The cops are mostly heroes doing a very difficult job under extremely stressful conditions. The violent protesters are mostly morons who don't understand or appreciate the quality of life they have and could not create a coherent sentence explaining what it is that they are trying to accomplish if their lives depended upon it.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

As opposed to a jackass bully that dives a police car into a protest in the first place?

Ahh, I knew I could count on Jazzfanz to deliver the lunatic level comments. Can you show us the part of the video where this supposed jackass bully drove his police car into the protest?

 

[gandalfe]

Ahh, I knew I could count on Jazzfanz to deliver the lunatic level comments. Can you show us the part of the video where this supposed jackass bully drove his police car into the protest?

I googled "police car protests."

Police cruiser drives into protesters in Detroit - Video

Video shows a police cruiser in Detroit, Michigan driving through a group of protesters.

abc7.com

George Floyd protests: New York police cars filmed driving into crowd – video

Footage of two police SUVs driving into a crowd of demonstrators in Brooklyn has been widely shared on social media.

www.theguardian.com

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

My answer to this is yes.

But let me ask another couple of questions

What is it that the radical left wants? What is it that the radical right wants?

What would a world look like if the radical left had all their wildest dreams come true?

Same question for the right.

My guesses? The left wants equality for everyone (though their methods of achieving it aren't always the best). They are against fascism, racism, etc. I think their perfect world everyone is equal, happy and peaceful.

The right wants to be superior to everyone else. They want guns and money. In their perfect world they would have everything they want at the expense of everyone else.

Thoughts?

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Wow. You're impression of the radical left is mind-blowingly different than mine. I'm completely over the radicals on both sides. The vast majority of Americans are reasonable people in the middle. The conversation is consistently driven by the lunatic fringe. Sad.

 

[fishonjazz]

Wow. You're impression of the radical left is mind-blowingly different than mine. I'm completely over the radicals on both sides. The vast majority of Americans are reasonable people in the middle. The conversation is consistently driven by the lunatic fringe. Sad.

I agree

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