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Zombie said:
Archie, for the third time, I concede you aren't alt right. However, on the topic of BLM protests you've uncritically posted content from Ian Cheong, Tim Pool, and Andy Ngo, all far right media figures with less than zero credibility, so I've got to draw the only other available conclusion - that you're just not terribly bright.
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This post is kind of an example of something I find interesting and telling in today's society, and one reason our political divide is widening. The outright dismissal of all ideas because of the source, without any willingness to consider there might be merit there, and ideas worth discussing. The Twitter-sphere makes it so easy to simply disparage and move on to someone whose idea make one comfortable. But seldom has compromise and true progress ever been made without entertaining some ideas that make us uncomfortable. I think this is a big problem. So Archie posts a video by a known right-winger and says "listen to the 3 minute to 5 minutes mark" or something, and the response is "he's a right wing nut I'm not listening to any of it" regardless of merit. It happens the other way around too. To me this unwillingness to entertain ideas that might make us uncomfortable is a huge huge problem. We have to be willing to challenge our own paradigm if we ever hope to get any closer together in our political space. But in the current social media world it is just so easy to build a nice comfy cocoon of ideas, with plenty of ideas I agree with, and plenty of choices for confirmation bias from the other side, that why do I ever have to try to have or entertain an uncomfortable original thought ever again? I think that's a big problem.
 
One Brow said:
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You asked what was wrong with the segment of the Tim Pool interview, and I answered. Than, rather than agree or disagree, you took a turn into the incoherent that somehow ends with me taking sides in the Rittenhouse case.

For someone who claims to be neutral and dislikes both sides, you are acting very much as if you are invested in one particular viewpooint.
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@One Brow is one of the few willing to actually listen to the segment and formulate a reasoned response. I wish more people would do that as well instead it just immediate dismissal of any material based exclusively on source.
 
LogGrad98 said:
This post is kind of an example of something I find interesting and telling in today's society, and one reason our political divide is widening. The outright dismissal of all ideas because of the source, without any willingness to consider there might be merit there, and ideas worth discussing. The Twitter-sphere makes it so easy to simply disparage and move on to someone whose idea make one comfortable. But seldom has compromise and true progress ever been made without entertaining some ideas that make us uncomfortable. I think this is a big problem. So Archie posts a video by a known right-winger and says "listen to the 3 minute to 5 minutes mark" or something, and the response is "he's a right wing nut I'm not listening to any of it" regardless of merit. It happens the other way around too. To me this unwillingness to entertain ideas that might make us uncomfortable is a huge huge problem. We have to be willing to challenge our own paradigm if we ever hope to get any closer together in our political space. But in the current social media world it is just so easy to build a nice comfy cocoon of ideas, with plenty of ideas I agree with, and plenty of choices for confirmation bias from the other side, that why do I ever have to try to have or entertain an uncomfortable original thought ever again? I think that's a big problem.
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If they were typical run of the mill right wingers that'd be one thing, but the three people mentioned above are the bottom of the barrel, and really shouldn't be taken seriously.
 
Zombie said:
If they were typical run of the mill right wingers that'd be one thing, but the three people mentioned above are the bottom of the barrel, and really shouldn't be taken seriously.
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It's easy to expand that circle.
 
Zombie said:
I guess, but you gotta draw the line somewhere. It's on the people presenting content to behave credibly if they want their views taken seriously, and these people don't.
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When is it ever asked for those on the right to expand their circle? This is why the Overton window consistently moves further and further to the right.
 
One Brow said:
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You asked what was wrong with the segment of the Tim Pool interview, and I answered. Than, rather than agree or disagree, you took a turn into the incoherent that somehow ends with me taking sides in the Rittenhouse case.

For someone who claims to be neutral and dislikes both sides, you are acting very much as if you are invested in one particular viewpooint.
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Lol

I guess people bringing up someone being a pedophile doesn't rub my "objective meter" wrong.

I'm not surprised this is "wrong" for you. Didn't you go out of your way to defend a rapist last week?
 
Zombie said:
FWIW there's no evidence of Reinoehl being a sexual predator or child molester. I think that 'fact' was just made up by some goober on 8chan and it spread through the far right ecosystem from there.

Truly shocking to see Archie take that and run with it though lol
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They're not talking about Michael Reinoehl, guy....

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LogGrad98 said:
This post is kind of an example of something I find interesting and telling in today's society, and one reason our political divide is widening. The outright dismissal of all ideas because of the source, without any willingness to consider there might be merit there, and ideas worth discussing. The Twitter-sphere makes it so easy to simply disparage and move on to someone whose idea make one comfortable. But seldom has compromise and true progress ever been made without entertaining some ideas that make us uncomfortable. I think this is a big problem. So Archie posts a video by a known right-winger and says "listen to the 3 minute to 5 minutes mark" or something, and the response is "he's a right wing nut I'm not listening to any of it" regardless of merit. It happens the other way around too. To me this unwillingness to entertain ideas that might make us uncomfortable is a huge huge problem. We have to be willing to challenge our own paradigm if we ever hope to get any closer together in our political space. But in the current social media world it is just so easy to build a nice comfy cocoon of ideas, with plenty of ideas I agree with, and plenty of choices for confirmation bias from the other side, that why do I ever have to try to have or entertain an uncomfortable original thought ever again? I think that's a big problem.
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Yeah, dude.

It's easier for people to label me a right winger just like people have for Tim Pool. The only people that do that though are the exact people you'd expect them to be.
 
"Created doubt, lack of confidence, suspicion; setting up situations that bring about racial bitterness, violence and conflict; putting
forth demands so unrealistic that race relations are worsened; attacking everybody in disagreement as reactionaries, Fascists, Ku
Kluxers among whites and Uncle Toms among Negroes, constitute the red’s pattern of operation."

I just ordered Color, Communism and Common Sense by Manning Johnson. This is the first paragraph of chapter 2.

You can read it here but I prefer an actual book.
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Zombie said:
Lmao alright Archie, I'll consider that you aren't alt right, but the only alternative explanation for why you continually post garbage from people within that ecosystem is that you're a moron.
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I shared a tweet that had the video of the Portland shooting. It was literally the first thing that came up while searching. Sharing the tweet has zero to do with whether I support, follow, or care about who tweeted it I had and still have no idea who Ian Cheong is but I'm not surprised you do.

So, in other words, the video of the Portland shooting is garbage because it came from some dude who has a small following in Malaysia and is alt right? Mmmkay. Solid logic, there guy. You should definitely translate that video into what my political beliefs are.


Gawd damn it.
 
Archie Moses said:
I shared a tweet that had the video of the Portland shooting. It was literally the first thing that came up while searching. Sharing the tweet has zero to do with whether I support, follow, or care about who tweeted it I had and still have no idea who Ian Cheong is but I'm not surprised you do.

So, in other words, the video of the Portland shooting is garbage because it came from some dude who has a small following in Malaysia and is alt right? Mmmkay. Solid logic, there guy. You should definitely translate that video into what my political beliefs are.


Gawd damn it.
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This is the third time you've replied to this post, and you still haven't understood what it says lmao
 
Archie Moses said:
They're not talking about Michael Reinoehl, guy....

conandaily.com

Joseph Rosenbaum biography: 13 things about Waco, Texas man Kyle Rittenhouse shot

Joseph Donald “Jojo” Rosenbaum of Waco, Texas, United States was one of the men Kyle H. Rittenhouse shot on August 25, 2020. They were in the same Black Lives Matter demonstration in Ke…
conandaily.com conandaily.com
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My mistake, so having done a little digging it looks like he got charged when he was 18, are we sure this dude was a pedophile and not just a senior who had sex with a sophomore or something?

Either way, I don't see what relevance this has on what happened.
 
Zombie said:
My mistake, so having done a little digging it looks like he got charged when he was 18, are we sure this dude was a pedophile and not just a senior who had sex with a sophomore or something?

Either way, I don't see what relevance this has on what happened.
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I have no idea and I don't really care to know the details. Calling him a pedophile had no relevance and is not a reason he got shot. That guy had a vast criminal history and that, to me, paints a picture that he was up to no good. He was trying to set stuff on fire.

The Tim Pool video with the eye witness pretty much covers what lead up to the shooting and their perspective. I don't think it says anything other than facts.

I do want to apologize for calling you dumb last night.
 
Zombie said:
This is the third time you've replied to this post, and you still haven't understood what it says lmao
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I know exactly what it says. You think I'm a moron for sharing a tweet of the Portland shooting because you know who the guy is that posted it. I didn't. Sharing a tweet of a video doesn't equate to aligning my beliefs with the poster. Maybe to you?
 
Archie Moses said:
I guess people bringing up someone being a pedophile doesn't rub my "objective meter" wrong.
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Of course not. You're more than happy for people to get gunned down if it later turns out they did something you didn't like once upon a time, and to have the human worth smeared (by what is seemingly a lie in this case, if Zombie didn't miss something.

If you object to being characterized in that fashion, be a little less cavalier about people smearing his character so they can justify his death, and you will stop earning it.

Archie Moses said:
I'm not surprised this is "wrong" for you. Didn't you go out of your way to defend a rapist last week?
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If saying that someone shouldn't be killed in an unrelated incident for a crime that doesn't merit the death penalty is a defense, then I will happily defend you any time.
 
Zombie said:
My mistake, so having done a little digging it looks like he got charged when he was 18, are we sure this dude was a pedophile and not just a senior who had sex with a sophomore or something?
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The minor would have been under 15 considering the length of the sentence.
 
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