Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Handlogten's Heros]

Hunter reminds me of Taurean Prince... everyone looks at his physical profile and numbers and assumes he can morph into Kawhi... but he's really just Taurean Prince and really is very average.

 

[YoungJefe]

You literally asked me why we’d win more games than the Hawks did this year (41)?

So in your brain that translated to we are a 35 win team

 

[Hearsky]

I blame Don all the time. Late game performances. Piss poor defense. Etc. I own it.

I also realize that Don was our best and only chance to go far in the playoffs because Rudy just doesn't scare anybody. On either end.

Lol blaming Don's usage on Rudy's inability to create offense. Thanks for proving my point.

You might be the biggest ****ing clown the Internet has ever seen. Not an easy accomplishment.


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[YoungJefe]

Hunter reminds me of Taurean Prince... everyone looks at his physical profile and numbers and assumes he can morph into Kawhi... but he's really just Taurean Prince and really is very average.

Hunter was balling in the playoffs

 

[Cptgrnlngs22]

I think the Jazz and Hawks know what they want and don't want. If I were to guess, Utah is trying to find a home for Capela. Looking for a 3rd team.

I don’t know man… Ainge tried to trade smart and a first round pick for a Capela when he was in Boston but it never went through. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Capella be in a jazz uniform.


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[jom2003]

They would probably take DeAngelo Russell instead of Conley.

Yeah, Russell or Simmons. But Minny and Brooklyn probably would ask a lot for these guys. More than what the Wizards could afford.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So in your brain that translated to we are a 35 win team

You didn't say it but I mean that is certainly in the realm of possibility if whoever we get isn't as healthy as Rudy has been over the years. We lost Joe who was one of our players that impacted wins quite a bit. Mike is likely to slip a little... Bogey too... I assume if we trade them in its for something that is younger but likely a little worse.

If we did the Atlanta trade and had averageish health I'd say we are a .500 team... given our late game spaziness we could easily slide to 35 wins. It isn't crazy... Rudy is among the biggest win share guys in the league.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, Russell or Simmons. But Minny and Brooklyn probably would ask a lot for these guys. More than what the Wizards could afford.

I think Minny is dying to move Russell.

 

[jom2003]

Hunter reminds me of Taurean Prince... everyone looks at his physical profile and numbers and assumes he can morph into Kawhi... but he's really just Taurean Prince and really is very average.

I'd prioritize okongwu over hunter but you would need at least one or both if you are trading Rudy

 

[jom2003]

I think Minny is dying to move Russell.

Yeah but what can Wiz offer that would entice Minny. They'd take the 10th pick for Russell straight up but the salary won't match. Then Wiz would have to convince Minny to take on a bunch of pieces that they really don't need.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Hunter was balling in the playoffs

He played well in a series where they got curb stomped. I would not expect him to shoot 56%/46% for the rest of his career. Probably closer to his career averages of 44/36. He's closer to an average defender than a great one... he looks the part so he gets over-rated imo.

 

[jom2003]

Trading Rudy also means we are possibly taking away our best chance of having another statue built outside of Vivint(or whatever the new sponsor would name the stadium). It would require hell of a convincing offer that's for sure

 

[YoungJefe]

He played well in a series where they got curb stomped. I would not expect him to shoot 56%/46% for the rest of his career. Probably closer to his career averages of 44/36. He's closer to an average defender than a great one... he looks the part so he gets over-rated imo.

Hunter was the 4th pick for a reason, I think he can be a 20+ ppg guy.

 

[One Brow]

Hell, they already did when somebody said we would have beaten the Clippers, or Nuggets, or Mavs if Rudy had an offensive game.

If we had lost because our offense wasn't working, then Gobert's lack of offense would have been a significant issue. We had a couple of good shooters shoot poorly, and our defense was wretched. Gobert posting up successfully doesn't change either of those things.

 

[KqWIN]

I'd prioritize okongwu over hunter but you would need at least one or both if you are trading Rudy

I feel the same way. I think Hunter's trade value exceeds his worth. ATL would be correct in holding onto Okongwu tightly, but if that's the case I think the Jazz demand at least #16, another 1st, and Jalen Johnson on top of Capela-Collins.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Hunter was the 4th pick for a reason, I think he can be a 20+ ppg guy.

Culver was the 6th pick... Bagley was the 2nd pick... I think he's super average and I'd be fine getting him. If it comes at a premium or I have to pay him 20M+ a year... then I'm not all that interested.

 

[KqWIN]

I think Minny is dying to move Russell.

Don't like Russell as player, but do like him as a trade target. Could potentially fetch a youngish player from MIN too. Beasley-Russell for Conley-Bogey framework? It's not horrible IMO.

 

[One Brow]

Defensive rating isn’t a great tool? Why do Rudy fans always use it to show how great he is then?

Defensive ratings show how team defense improves/worsens when a player is on/off the court. Due to rotational issues, etc., there pretty noisy over the course of a season. The difference between the drop when Trae is on court vs. Donovan is on the court is almost meaningless.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Don't like Russell as player, but do like him as a trade target. Could potentially fetch a youngish player from MIN too. Beasley-Russell for Conley-Bogey framework? It's not horrible IMO.

I can't do it... I cannot have Russell, Donovan, and JC on this team... I can't.

 

[fishonjazz]

$62M invested into Huerter, Collins, and Cappella for the foreseeable future. Yikes.

I'd rather send Rudy to Sacramento for Holmes, Barnes, and #4

Is that what sac is offering?