Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[David Hume]

I do like you and appreciate basically anyone who doesn’t feel the need to pick a side and just supports the Jazz in general. The guys who are the worst are the ones who have personal vendettas against players and who are cult-like in support of others who are on other teams.

I reciprocate the honor, Sir: I view you as a respected and productive contributor to JazzFanz.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Well, what Bogey did wasn't just for a quarter. He guarded Kawhi, he guarded Brunson and Doncic for the whole game.

What I remember from Don is people conflating his steals with the idea that he was improving defensively. There were some hopeful few who thought since he sucked defensively, gambling for deflections and steals would help the Jazz.

Bogey was ****ing masterful in the Clippers series.

 

[Elizah Huge]

So one super weird thing about the Rudy trade… it seems none of the writers or Locke are talking about Beverly at all… is it like a foregone conclusion we are routing him elsewhere? If we are actually retooling he’s a piece you definitely hold on to. Am I wrong… feels like people talk about Vanderbilt and Beasley more and Bev isn’t even really mentioned which is weird.

Well does he play off ball or come off the bench? The idea has been to move Donovan to full time PG all off-season.

 

[Hearsky]

So one super weird thing about the Rudy trade… it seems none of the writers or Locke are talking about Beverly at all… is it like a foregone conclusion we are routing him elsewhere? If we are actually retooling he’s a piece you definitely hold on to. Am I wrong… feels like people talk about Vanderbilt and Beasley more and Bev isn’t even really mentioned which is weird.

I don't get it either. Perfect player for a young team. Doesn't require much PT and brings a Sam Cassell no BS approach. I even heard Locke talk about his being a buyout candidate. I think he is a positive asset, especially at the trade deadline.

 

[Elizah Huge]

@Hekate I take back what I said about Bogey the more I think about it the more he does give a ton of effort even if he’s not the best defender.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Tony Jones wouldn't say **** if he had a mouth full of it.

Here is what I think is happening--there isn't a source who is coming out and saying this publicly, but this is just reading the tea leaves and follows what big reporters (Windhorst, MacMahon) are tip-toeing around. I think Mitchell asked for a trade before the draft. He named MIA and NYK as his preferred destinations. However, both the Jazz and CAA want to keep this quiet.

If people know that Mitchell requested a trade, the fans will be furious with him. Kids will be crying and people will burn their Mitchell jerseys. The fans made a big backlash against Hayward when he left in free agency. Mitchell wants out with 3 years left on his deal. It's just going to be ugly for Mitchell and CAA doesn't want that. The league doesn't want that. It's just a bad look all around.

If Ainge abruptly trades Mitchell, then people can say the Jazz are going in a different direction. Mitchell can say he has nothing but love and gratitude for Salt Lake and the Jazz. (Same as Dejounte Murray.) If people are angry they can blame Ainge for changing the direction without giving Mitchell a chance to run the team. Ainge will say, "It's sometimes hard to swallow, but this is what's best to try to bring a championship to Utah."

Jazz have been actively discussing Mitchell trades with MIA and NYK for the past 10 days. Then when KD asked out of BRK last week, the Jazz inserted themselves into those discussions as the team that could facilitate by providing a young All Star as compensation for KD going out. So between MIA, NYK and now BRK, Ainge is making a market for Mitchell.

If the Jazz don't get the offer they want, they can hold onto Mitchell into next season and put on a happy face for the fans. They'll say, "We are building this team around Mitchell." Then they can try again to move him at the trade deadline or next offseason.

 

[LoPo]

With the GOAT true PG....

He played with Stockton?

Gotta ask again- are you sure you're a Jazz fan?

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[LoPo]

I'm pretty sure it came out that Rudy got Covid from DM. Several months after the fact that was the conclusion.

Lol. Sure...

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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Yet surely my posts regarding the applicability of empiricist philosophy to JazzFanz analysis has elevated me to the upper realms of your favorite posters.

You sir, are an idea, a conjecture about what is possible, an outlier.

 

[Hearsky]

Here is what I think is happening--there isn't a source who is coming out and saying this publicly, but this is just reading the tea leaves and follows what big reporters (Windhorst, MacMahon) are tip-toeing around. I think Mitchell asked for a trade before the draft. He named MIA and NYK as his preferred destinations. However, both the Jazz and CAA want to keep this quiet.

If people know that Mitchell requested a trade, the fans will be furious with him. Kids will be crying and people will burn their Mitchell jerseys. The fans made a big backlash against Hayward when he left in free agency. Mitchell wants out with 3 years left on his deal. It's just going to be ugly for Mitchell and CAA doesn't want that. The league doesn't want that. It's just a bad look all around.

If Ainge abruptly trades Mitchell, then people can say the Jazz are going in a different direction. Mitchell can say he has nothing but love and gratitude for Salt Lake and the Jazz. (Same as Dejounte Murray.) If people are angry they can blame Ainge for changing the direction without giving Mitchell a chance to run the team. Ainge will say, "It's sometimes hard to swallow, but this is what's best to try to bring a championship to Utah."

Jazz have been actively discussing Mitchell trades with MIA and NYK for the past 10 days. Then when KD asked out of BRK last week, the Jazz inserted themselves into those discussions as the team that could facilitate by providing a young All Star as compensation for KD going out. So between MIA, NYK and now BRK, Ainge is making a market for Mitchell.

If the Jazz don't get the offer they want, they can hold onto Mitchell into next season and put on a happy face for the fans. They'll say, "We are building this team around Mitchell." Then they can try again to move him at the trade deadline or next offseason.

This sounds extremely plausible to me. Woj walking the company line.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Well does he play off ball or come off the bench? The idea has been to move Donovan to full time PG all off-season.

He plays like a SG more than a pg and he can guard up in size. As far as bargain options he’s basically an ideal backcourt partner.

 

[stitches]

So one super weird thing about the Rudy trade… it seems none of the writers or Locke are talking about Beverly at all… is it like a foregone conclusion we are routing him elsewhere? If we are actually retooling he’s a piece you definitely hold on to. Am I wrong… feels like people talk about Vanderbilt and Beasley more and Bev isn’t even really mentioned which is weird.

IF we are not rebuilding, but retooling around Mitchell, he should absolutely be in our plans for next year. He actually would provide some of the things we have sorely missed last few years.

 

[Elizah Huge]

He plays like a SG more than a pg and he can guard up in size. As far as bargain options he’s basically an ideal backcourt partner.

I agree

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don't get it either. Perfect player for a young team. Doesn't require much PT and brings a Sam Cassell no BS approach. I even heard Locke talk about his being a buyout candidate. I think he is a positive asset, especially at the trade deadline.

He also isn’t a guy that pouts about where he plays… just comes in and does his ****… he was hyped to play in Minnesota. Give me that guy even if he’s a little wild.

 

[Hekate]

Hey… that hurts… I kid. To start the season he seemed more active with that… which is an improvement over completely unengaged.

Lol, the Clippers series made me question lots of things and killed any optimism I would have had.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

This sounds extremely plausible to me. Woj walking the company line.

It's what everyone wants--the league, Mitchell, his agent and the Jazz. Everyone has to save face. Besides, moving Mitchell now and setting the Jazz on the path to a proper rebuild is the right course for the Jazz to take.

 

[David Hume]

You sir, are an idea, a conjecture about what is possible, an outlier.

Sir Mellowchill, thank you for the generous pronouncements. Reciprocation: I regard your treatises to be of honorable and substantive insights.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

IF we are not rebuilding, but retooling around Mitchell, he should absolutely be in our plans for next year. He actually would provide some of the things we have sorely missed last few years.

Even if we are rebuilding I wouldn’t trade him unless I got something… definitely not buying him out. He will play hard and set an example… if you got a good offer move him now or mid season. I could see him getting a first for a team that needs help because of injury or something

 

[Elizah Huge]

Even if we are rebuilding I wouldn’t trade him unless I got something… definitely not buying him out. He will play hard and set an example… if you got a good offer move him now or mid season. I could see him getting a first for a team that needs help because of injury or something

If Royce got a 1st then Beverley definitely could.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Lol, the Clippers series made me question lots of things and killed any optimism I would have had.

I had hope beginning of season and was like “here’s something… and something is better than nothing right?”