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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

fallenchicken said:
If we’re taking back Simmons in any sort of three way deal, he better come with extra draft assets. He is not a valuable asset right now and probably won’t ever be worth his contract.
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Agreed. Simmons is a spendy negative asset ala Westbrook.

I just am of the opinion that Simmons turns it around at some point. If we could pick up Ayton for Bogdnovic, Gay, and a 1st, and then Simmons and a 2nd for Clarkson and Conley then I would think that would be an interesting team.

Mitchell, Beasley, Vanderbilt, Simmons, Ayton. If Simmons played it would be a crazy fun team to watch.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
They might need 3 or 4 teams. Ayton won’t wait forever and can sign an offer sheet with Indiana once the moratorium is lifted and then all the teams are kinda stuck.
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If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?
 
framer said:
I actually don't think the Jazz are going to do anything to help Brooklyn. I think they are bluffing to drive the price up for New York. That's the only play. If there is no New York deal, you just hold on to Donovan. The Brooklyn and Heat deals are garbage. Jazz will take Ayton from Phoenix if the deal is good enough (A player and a first.) Otherwise I think they just might start doing small ball deals to trim age off the roster and get picks.
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I generally agree with this, but think there's another play where BRK insists on receiving Donovan in order to send KD to PHX. Then PHX would be on the hook to trade for Donovan in order to get KD. The Jazz would walk away with PHX's draft capital, which could be as valuable as NYK's simply because the CP and KD are old and injury prone, while PHX will be capped out with their three main contracts.
 
Please no Ayton. Let’s not go from paying one max center to another. We are free, and we got four first round picks for our trouble. Let’s look ahead and modernize this team.
 
idiot said:
If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?
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Phoenix has his rights. They can match any offer then send him off where they please. If he agrees to a sign and trade, he has a say to his new team.
He's a bad spot. Only a few teams would want him with his high contract price. His salary and potential new team is a big question mark now.

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idiot said:
If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?
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Suns could match the offer and he's back in PHX, though that becomes more complicated if the Suns are trying to trade for KD.
 
framer said:
Brooklyn is going to want all the cream out of the Twinkie in a Jazz, Suns, Nets three way. They are going to want those Phoenix picks AND Bridges AND Mitchell. Screw 'em. Knicks will buckle, even if we need to let them experience life a bit with Brunsen as their "superstar." As bad as we feel like we would be fleecing them, they generally make worse decisions.
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You know that stuff isn't real cream, right?
 
Elizah Huge said:
Who says Indiana is even offering him what he wants?
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Nobody knows this, of course. But we also don't know whether any sign-and-trade option would give him anything better. It seems it's in his interest to try to get both options in play (by having the process drag out at least to the end of the moratorium).
 
idiot said:
If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?
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Well Phoenix can still match and then he’s either back in a tough situation or traded wherever they want to later. The Indy offer may also not be there. He isn’t guaranteed to get a max… so he will want to keep options open. If Indy does offer it he may just sign it and handle the consequences later. If he prefers Utah or somewhere else he may be patient to get what he prefers.
 
nateboz said:
Phoenix has his rights. They can match any offer then send him off where they please. If he agrees to a sign and trade, he has a say to his new team.
He's a bad spot. Only a few teams would want him with his high contract price. His salary and potential new team is a big question mark now.

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I suspect his primary goal is getting paid. If it's with Phoenix, he'll find a way to cope. If it's with Sacramento or Indiana (for example), he'll be fine as long as it's the highest offer. Why would he prefer Utah? Why would it be in his interest to try to hurry the process along before an offer sheet can be formally given?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Well Phoenix can still match and then he’s either back in a tough situation or traded wherever they want to later. The Indy offer may also not be there. He isn’t guaranteed to get a max… so he will want to keep options open. If Indy does offer it he may just sign it and handle the consequences later. If he prefers Utah or somewhere else he may be patient to get what he prefers.
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IIRC once he signs an offer sheet elsewhere but basically eliminates the possibility they are able to trade him.
 
Ron Mexico said:
I dislike Simmons, but if he is getting dumped as part of a deal and we could get him for next to nothing or one of our vets contracts its a no brainer to pick him up. Worst case his salary sits here for a few years but thats fine. Best case he gets back to where he was or more.
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I’m personally not a huge fan of Ben Simmons but starting a rebuild with two former #1 picks that are younger then 25 and have been big contributors for #1 seeds within the last 2 seasons + having heavy draft capital isn’t a terrible place to begin.
 
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