Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[HermanG]

I’m thinking DFS would be a part of a Conley deal if Dallas wanted him.

PG with Luka? Nope, still doesnt make sense. Its a weird call. Something fishy going on.

Unless its a 3 way and DFS goes elsewhere. But then again.. we made the call. So no.. still no sense.

 

[Elizah Huge]

While we’re on the topic I just want to remind people how well Sexton played as starting PG when Conley was hurt. A total of 10 games:

17/5/2 on 55/39/87 shooting splits. He had a 6-game stretch where his assists totals were 12/7/5/6/6/5.

He had a positive +/- in 7/10 games. A total of +25 overall combined.

Assist to turnover ratio was 2.2/1.

I don’t know about you guys but those are some pretty impressive stats.

 

[HermanG]

With the way trade rumors tend to happen… I bet Dallas called us and offered DFS plus a bunch of garbage for Lauri, and DFS was the only part of the garbage package we were “interested” in

This makes more sense than anything. Sounds like a Mark Cuban move.

 

[My2Cents]

Wonder if teams are even answering or calling Ainge at this point . He did so well with the 2 big trades teams may be afraid to even make a deal because if they lose the trade they think they will be shitcanned for it, Jazz may need a different strategy

Marc Stein:
"The first two league executives I spoke to last week ... basically had the same reaction. They said that, in their respective organizations, there’s a half-joking (but also half-serious) policy when it comes to Jazz CEO Danny Ainge that goes something like this: If Ainge is calling about a trade ... let it go to voicemail.”

 

[latin jazz]

When conley is out hardy has 3 guys to turn to take that spot. Because its the deepest. I agree that they are combo guards though. Combo meaning combination. Point guard being part of that combination. They aren’t necessarily ideal if you are wanting a pure pass first point guard but the good news is that in todays nba pass first points arent really necessary and dont exist much so they are fine to play point guard. I mean what team do we play next?
Raptors. Who is their pass first pure point guard?
Looking at their roster i see fred van fleet and gary trent jr are the players for them listed as point guards.
I think sexton, naw and tht can play the point just as much as they can. Just as much as most teams point guards tbh. Conley (a tiny pass first point guard) is kind of a dying breed.



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Sorry fish, PG is not our deepest position at all. On the contrary, you remove Conley and there is no one decent to make advanced reads and run the team properly. There is not much PG in that "combo" definition. Hardy is forced to play different ball handlers just because there is no else who could run an offense properly. The offense and overall IQ of the team drops to basic leves when Conley is off the floor. Hopefully we get someone competent via draft or trades.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Hmm, in my experience diarrhea sticks to literally everything in every way imaginable. Maybe it is throwing constipated ****-bricks against the wall which would just bounce off, the way they plug the toilet up EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

Bruh... only one way to test this... Cy gets raging diarrhea on your hands and you throw it against the wall... then we get a brick of **** and throw it against the wall and measure what is left.

I used to throw apples at a brick wall in my youth... there will be some remnants... way more than trying to throw diarrhea... it prolly doesn't even make it to the wall.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

When conley is out hardy has 3 guys to turn to take that spot. Because its the deepest. I agree that they are combo guards though. Combo meaning combination. Point guard being part of that combination. They aren’t necessarily ideal if you are wanting a pure pass first point guard but the good news is that in todays nba pass first points arent really necessary and dont exist much so they are fine to play point guard. I mean what team do we play next?
Raptors. Who is their pass first pure point guard?
Looking at their roster i see fred van fleet and gary trent jr are the players for them listed as point guards.
I think sexton, naw and tht can play the point just as much as they can. Just as much as most teams point guards tbh. Conley (a tiny pass first point guard) is kind of a dying breed.



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Cy says we have one pg and a bunch of combo guard’s, but he wants to trade Vando for yet another combo guard in Bones Hyland. Naturally.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

at the very least, this has been an entertaining discussion to catch up on over the last 8 pages or so.

as far as bones hyland, he destroyed the jazz in a late october game this season (at least in the first half, iirc) and i've ignored what he's done since, so i think he's amazing.

didn't the jazz have a gm back in the day (KOC) who would trade for dudes who had one good game against the jazz (Amaechi comes to mind) - as if he never did any other homework?

but instead of vando (i like vando), let's dump beasley for him.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

at the very least, this has been an entertaining discussion to catch up on over the last 8 pages or so.

as far as bones hyland, he destroyed the jazz in a late october game this season (at least in the first half, iirc) and i've ignored what he's done since, so i think he's amazing.

didn't the jazz have a gm back in the day (KOC) who would trade for dudes who had one good game against the jazz (Amaechi comes to mind) - as if he never did any other homework?

but instead of vando (i like vando), let's dump beasley for him.

The issue is that Beasley makes too much money to be traded to Denver. They have no bad contracts.

 

[baka98]

Still waiting for Big Mike's drop.....

 

[latin jazz]

While we’re on the topic I just want to remind people how well Sexton played as starting PG when Conley was hurt. A total of 10 games:

17/5/2 on 55/39/87 shooting splits. He had a 6-game stretch where his assists totals were 12/7/5/6/6/5.

He had a positive +/- in 7/10 games. A total of +25 overall combined.

Assist to turnover ratio was 2.2/1.

I don’t know about you guys but those are some pretty impressive stats.

Those are ok stats, wouldn't call them impressive. Remember Sexton is a scorer who averaged 25ppg at some point. So his scoring and shooting ability is not into question. As of today, Conley is our only good PG but he is old. Sexton can be ok at the position and improve his passing, but i don't think he is the solution long-term. THT and naw have played there out of necessity, not because they are really good at running an offense. I think we need to improve at PG during the off-season.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

With the way trade rumors tend to happen… I bet Dallas called us and offered DFS plus a bunch of garbage for Lauri, and DFS was the only part of the garbage package we were “interested” in

I find it hard to believe Dallas called the jazz and offered DFS for Markkanen with a straight face.

 

[hgb]

The issue is that Beasley makes too much money to be traded to Denver. They have no bad contracts.

There's KCP, but I guess they value him way more than a salary matching throw-in. Bones and KCP for Beasley works, as an example.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

I think we are deep at PG. Conley/Sexton/NAW can all play PG at a pretty high level. Sexton’s stats as starting PG were amazing and he is in all of our best lineups. NAW is great as a third string PG. He showed flashes of being even better than that as well.

You forgot to mention THT who has also been playing at a pretty high level. Let’s see, we’ve got 22 mil going to Conley, 16 to Sexton, 10 to THT and 3 to NAW and they’re all bigger stronger and better than Hyland. I mean at 6’3”, 175, the guy is called Bones for a reason!

What’s on Danny’s mind? All I hear is Collins and the McDaniels brothers. I think Danny’s a pretty good judge of what we need right now and unless we move some bodies and contracts it ain’t some dude called Bones.

 

[fishonjazz]

Sorry fish, PG is not our deepest position at all. On the contrary, you remove Conley and there is no one decent to make advanced reads and run the team properly. There is not much PG in that "combo" definition. Hardy is forced to play different ball handlers just because there is no else who could run an offense properly. The offense and overall IQ of the team drops to basic leves when Conley is off the floor. Hopefully we get someone competent via draft or trades.

A. Conley is part of the jazz and is part of that depth.
B. NAW and sexton have both looked great playing point guard for us. The team as well. THT, the 4th stringer has had some good moments as well.

I appreciate your level headed post with no insults though. We will just agree to disagree.


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[sip]

A. Conley is part of the jazz and is part of that depth.
B. NAW and sexton have both looked great playing point guard for us. The team as well. THT, the 4th stringer has had some good moments as well.

I appreciate your level headed post with no insults though. We will just agree to disagree.


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I would say sg is by far our deepest position with pg second.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

There's KCP, but I guess they value him way more than a salary matching throw-in. Bones and KCP for Beasley works, as an example.

They wouldnt do that. They want to add defense to their team without subtracting from their current core.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Those are ok stats, wouldn't call them impressive. Remember Sexton is a scorer who averaged 25ppg at some point. So his scoring and shooting ability is not into question. As of today, Conley is our only good PG but he is old. Sexton can be ok at the position and improve his passing, but i don't think he is the solution long-term. THT and naw have played there out of necessity, not because they are really good at running an offense. I think we need to improve at PG during the off-season.

You guys are ****ing wild. Those are ok stats but then you say Conley is our only good PG?

Conley is averaging 10/8/2 on 39/37/80 splits. How is 17/5/2 on 55/39/87 splits not impressive if you think Conley’s stats are good?

I didn’t even realize until now Conley is shooting 39% from the field. That is ****ing atrocious.

 

[Elizah Huge]

PG with Luka? Nope, still doesnt make sense. Its a weird call. Something fishy going on.

Unless its a 3 way and DFS goes elsewhere. But then again.. we made the call. So no.. still no sense.

I mean they are missing Brunson pretty bad and he’s a PG. It is proven that it works with Luka.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

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For the record, I would prefer this Vando trade to getting Bones, but I think this one is more unrealistic.