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Maybe both Treys thought a little too much they were hot **** lottery picks and should easily be top guns/franchise guys on some Podunk small market Utah team. I mean, after all, Lyles went to Kentucky and Burke was POY and played in a national championship - obviously, way more significant and higher level b-ball than anything in Utah ... Interesting how Donovan Mitchell came in with the exact opposite attitude and found himself to be even greater than the Trey’s dreamt themselves to be.
 
That is not what he said.

What he said was that it was his fault because instead of playing his game his way he tried to listen to the coaches. Which is the complete opposite of what you are indicating he said.
Nah, read the Desert News article when he came back for the road game this year.


"“I think in the past, a lot of people think we’ve got problems with each other, but for me, I let that go,” Burke said. “I’ve grown from it, I’ve learned from it. My experience here was my first experience in the NBA as a professional, so Utah will always have a place in my heart regardless of what people may think.

“Every time I come back here, the scenery, the people here and just the feeling I get because this is where I was coming to do my press conference as a rookie in the NBA so I’m glad to be back here.”

Burke admits he wasn’t always focused on basketball with other distractions holding him back as a young player in Utah. Once the Jazz drafted guard Dante Exum in his second season, he was honest in his assessment that it didn’t help."
 
Nah, read the Desert News article when he came back for the road game this year.


"“I think in the past, a lot of people think we’ve got problems with each other, but for me, I let that go,” Burke said. “I’ve grown from it, I’ve learned from it. My experience here was my first experience in the NBA as a professional, so Utah will always have a place in my heart regardless of what people may think.

“Every time I come back here, the scenery, the people here and just the feeling I get because this is where I was coming to do my press conference as a rookie in the NBA so I’m glad to be back here.”

Burke admits he wasn’t always focused on basketball with other distractions holding him back as a young player in Utah. Once the Jazz drafted guard Dante Exum in his second season, he was honest in his assessment that it didn’t help."
I hadn't seen that. Was this before or after the interview in which he said he regretted listening to the coaches in Utah? Because that was also this season.
 
I hadn't seen that. Was this before or after the interview in which he said he regretted listening to the coaches in Utah? Because that was also this season.

Yeah Burke has been a little bit all over the place with his comments this year. He also said something about nobody wanting to play in Utah to a guy on twitter etc. He's been a very mixed bag. Wouldn't surprise me if he made another negative comment the next time he was asked about it.
 
I hadn't seen that. Was this before or after the interview in which he said he regretted listening to the coaches in Utah? Because that was also this season.
How the hell am I suppose to know when you dont post any quote of this or context?
 
"I blame it on myself now. I can look back and I can say that it was me rather than them because I changed the way I played for the way they wanted me to play. That should never happen."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...-renewed-mission-to-resurrect-nba-career/amp/
He was talking about the fans, not the coaching staff. That's understandable. He basically said he let fans get in his head about his game and he started to try and please them instead of just sticking with his game. So he sucked, then fans got on him about sucking, which he didnt take well and it got to him to the point where he changed how he played. That's a huge part of maturity in pro sports in the social media age, being mentally tough against fan pressure.

Yall really are just trying to find anything negative to say about Burke to the point where you take his quotes out of context to make him look worse than he is. It's kind of gross. I expect it out of gregbonics but not you Colton, you smarter than that.
 
"I am a playmaker naturally," Burke said. "Guys ask, 'Are you a point guard? Are you a shooting guard?' I believe I am a point guard and a shooting guard. I believe I'm both: a combo guard, you might say. I believe I can run a team as a point guard, though, and I think that's the biggest thing. When you have the friction between me and the fans, I think that's really what it was. I blame it on myself now. I can look back and I can say that it was me rather than them because I changed the way I played for the way they wanted me to play. That should never happen."

How vindictive against Burke do you have to be to take that as him talking about the coaching staff? Jesus Christ.
 
Interesting. I didn't read it that way, but I see how maybe that's what he meant.
He literally says fans in the paragraph. He never mentions a coach.

Do you not remember how much **** we gave him for not being a PG and shooting too much? That's what he is referring too. Like I said, if you cant see that plain as day when reading that paragraph then you are looking for stuff to be mad about that doesnt exist.

"When you have the friction between me and the fans, I think that's really what it was. I blame it on myself now. I can look back and I can say that it was me rather than them because I changed the way I played for the way they wanted me to play. That should never happen."

Them and they are pronouns for fans, not the coaching staff. There is no reading in between the lines necessary, it's plain as day.
 
When that story came out, lots of people talked like Burke was talking about coaches, even some Jazz media people presented it like that iirc. No wonder, it stuck in Colton's mind, it did in mine.
 
When that story came out, lots of people talked like Burke was talking about coaches, even some Jazz media people presented it like that iirc. No wonder, it stuck in Colton's mind, it did in mine.

You are probably remembering the stuff that came out when he joined the Wizards and he dropped the "they were trying to break me" quotes.
 
You are probably remembering the stuff that came out when he joined the Wizards and he dropped the "they were trying to break me" quotes.
No, some sources (or maybe a Jazzfanz thread) definitely talked about this as if he meant coaches, which like Hekate said is why I remembered. But they could well have been wrong.
 
This is not in any way a defense of Lyles, but I don't think we should assume the only time he worked on his game/body/etc. was during practice.
Considering he's complaining about playing a game for millions of dollars, and considering you could size up how big of a joke he is after 5 minutes, I think it's fair to assume he doesn't work very hard at all, and that more importantly, it doesn't ****ing matter whether he does or doesn't work more than that. He's a 20 year old making millions and has the audacity to complain about really anything.
 
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