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Trump and Putin in Helsinki

Ron Mexico said:
You got proved wrong about the simulation and got testy. So, no you did not explain a simple simulation. You clearly didnt understand it.

The same thing applies here, its obvious that its something you dont understand and cant explain. I didnt really want an explanation just wanted to point out a silly statement from you. You are trying to sound superior to everyone else.

No one, including you and I, knows the purpose and goals of all the media. The media is way to broad to pretend to understand those things for all of it.
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I was testy because I was spending a lot of time putting that together and instead of just appreciating it and having some fun I spent half the time arguing with ****wits like yourself.

The fact you think the media is "broad" in any sense illustrates how naive you are.
 
elan_prodigy said:
I was testy because I was spending a lot of time putting that together and instead of just appreciating it and having some fun I spent half the time arguing with ****wits like yourself.
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I said multiple times I enjoyed it and thanked you for doing it. I simply stated some of the problems with the simulation and why they hurt my team.

"The fact you think the media is "broad" in any sense illustrates how naive you are."

Nope. It's a fact that media is very very broad.

Most people get their media or a large portion of it from this thing called socal media. That is literally the opinions of billions. Even beyond that the scope of media and what it entails is very large.

It sounds like you might not even understand what the word media means...
 
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Nope, ron. The media is a monolith controlled by a small group of like-minded liberal elitists. University types who I hear have connections to old British banking families and George Sorros.
 
I think it’ll be interesting to see what exactly was agreed to during their one on one. No one from our side knows exactly while Russian media is claiming a bunch of “wins” for them in diplomacy. Yet, we remain in the dark since no one other than their interpreters were present. That’s scary under any circumstance. But given trump’s struggles with memory and language lately, what happens if he got one word wrong and agreed to something terrible (i. e. I will (instead of won’t) give you american diplomats for you to torture and kill)?

It sounds like at one point putin asked Bill Browder (responsible for the sanctions placed on Russia by the Magnitsky Act) and Obama’s Russian ambassador, Michael McFaul. Rather than laughing at Putin’s outrageous request, apparently Trump told him that he’d consider sending two Americans over to be “investigated” by the Russians. Not sure how anyone working in the state dept would continue to do so if that happens.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/18/politics/white-house-proposal-putin-mcfaul/index.html
 
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Another interesting development:

White House chief of staff John Kelly reportedly gave GOP lawmakers the green light to rebuke President Trump's controversial remarks from his joint press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Three sources told Vanity Fair on the condition of anonymity that Kelly was furious after Trump stood with Putin during their summit in Helsinki, Finland, and sided with his denial that Russia meddled in the 2016 presidential election.
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But according to some of the very stable geniuses on this board, Kelly is just overreacting right? It’s amazing to see Trump’s stupidity in action (his press conference with putin and subsequent dates with Tucker and Sean after) and wonder if it’s possible that anyone could be stupid enough to believe in his ********. And then come onto this website and lo and behold, there are. Just amazing.

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ns-to-rebuke-trump-for-putin-press-conference
 
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gandalfe said:
http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/a-more-obvious-trump-theory-the-man-is-just-an-idiot-10918056
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Yeah, he could just be an idiot. Lol, maybe that works for me. But I think Putin has something on him as well. I heard ex CIA chief Brennan say he thought that was the case. And I think other ex high ranking intelligence chiefs are convinced of that now as well. And no doubt the intelligence community was pissed enough to leak to The NY Times yesterday the fact that all the evidence that Putin ordered interference in Trump's favor was laid out to Trump in January of 2017, immediately after his inauguration.

He's pretty one dimensional. No curiosity. No preperation. Golfed for two days prior to Putin. Fawned over Putin. Winked at him at least twice, and in the press conference, he really was remindful of a puppy dog looking at his master. Those moments in the press conference are really notable. Yet, his followers still can't see him, still don't know the emperor has no clothes. The guy who wrote The Art of the Deal warned people throughout the campaign that Trump was a child and simply was not too bright.

I'd love to know what went on in the two hour one on one. Democrats want hearings featuring the American interpreter, but I see little chance the Republicans will go for that. Some are even accepting his "clarification" of meaning to say "wouldn't" instead of "would", but anybody can see that's a lie and only "would" works in the context of the press conference. I could buy the theory that his ego won't let him take Russian interference seriously without making his election victory seem tainted. I can see that, but I still suspect Putin has kompromat. The Steele Dossier has been proven right on in so many ways, I would not be surprised if the pee tape was real. But seeing his tax returns might reveal a lot where Russia was concerned as well. So any kompromat might lie in the realm of Trump finances.
 
The Thriller said:
But given trump’s struggles with memory and language lately, what happens if he got one word wrong and agreed to something terrible (i. e. I will (instead of won’t) give you american diplomats for you to torture and kill)?
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Then with his memory and language problems, Trump would likely later say he didn't make any such promise.
 
Bulletproof said:
So because Trump supporters believe the "deep state" in conjunction with the fake news media is out to get their guy they have made themselves okay with the U.S. President siding with Putin over our own intelligence community?

So the U.S. is worth nothing? Our intelligence community is more an enemy of "making America great again" than Putin and Russian intelligence is? Our nation, in all it's pathetic pre-Trumpian shame, is equally at fault for our poor relationship with Russia as Russia is? It is in the best interests of the average American citizen for Trump to criticise his own team, his own people, his own institutions, while praising the leader of a mob-like administration in Russia?

It's okay for you Trump supporters to say people are overreacting. I get that. But for you to not react at all? For this to be perfectly normal and perfectly okay? Trump is doing well in his quest to "make America great again."

This may not be something we need to panic about, but it certainly isn't something we should be okay with.
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Do you honestly believe our intelligence community deserves the least bit of praise right now?



I don't see how anyone can watch that and not be disgusted by them, HC, Obama, and the DNC, and see the enemy from within that attempted to undermine our elections. This isnt limited to Russia and external forces. We need to look at ourselves too.
 


Just a reminder, the Gazette attack killing five DC reporters was just 22 days ago.

And I love trump’s projection here. He’s the one losing it. He’s been in a freefall since he was forced to reverse himself on the caging immigrant kids. Since then he’s been flaying from one crisis to another. Clearly, through law enforcement, the media reporting facts, and his own self-inflicted wounds he senses that there’s blood in the water.

You can’t blame the public for being concerned over these seemingly unending scandals.
 
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Why would every house republican today vote against funding to improve the security of our voting machines?



And this video is moving. Democrats erupt in chants of USA USA USA while republicans sit on their asses and vote against improving security. Why would they do that? It’s almost as if they are admitting that they can’t win without Russian help
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Do you honestly believe our intelligence community deserves the least bit of praise right now?



I don't see how anyone can watch that and not be disgusted by them, HC, Obama, and the DNC, and see the enemy from within that attempted to undermine our elections. This isnt limited to Russia and external forces. We need to look at ourselves too.
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I've never been opposed to Hillary being investigated, charged if warranted.

That video contains a lot of allegations. If they can be substantiated then who's stopping an investigation at this time? Obama is not the President. Hillary holds no official position in the U.S. government. Comey, McCabe have been forced out of the DOJ/FBI. So if there is actual, verifiable evidence to support those allegations who is it right now who is stopping the investigation into those matters? The Republican President of the U.S.? The Republican Attorney General? The Republican Senate? The Republican Congress?

Or is it that the allegations, as blood boiling as you seem to find them, are in substance not strong?
 
Bulletproof said:
I've never been opposed to Hillary being investigated, charged if warranted.

That video contains a lot of allegations. If they can be substantiated then who's stopping an investigation at this time? Obama is not the President. Hillary holds no official position in the U.S. government. Comey, McCabe have been forced out of the DOJ/FBI. So if there is actual, verifiable evidence to support those allegations who is it right now who is stopping the investigation into those matters? The Republican President of the U.S.? The Republican Attorney General? The Republican Senate? The Republican Congress?

Or is it that the allegations, as blood boiling as you seem to find them, are in substance not strong?
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They all have dirt on each other, and put on an appearance of being enemies. That's a requirement to rise to the top. See how it works? Only the corruptible are allowed to rise to the top is their strategy, then they can control them. It's not absolutes but maybe you get my jist.
 
Pretty sure Hillary has already been investigated... multiple times. Nothing illegal has been found.

Does the house really need to investigate her for the 16th time?

Talk about nothingburgers. Sheesh
 
The Thriller said:
Pretty sure Hillary has already been investigated... multiple times. Nothing illegal has been found.

Does the house really need to investigate her for the 16th time?

Talk about nothingburgers. Sheesh
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Things have been found. She had a private email server, she sent classified emails from that server.

What has never been established is whether or not there was any nefarious purpose behind having the private email server or if it was done simply out of carelessness, ignorance, for convenience or plain disregard for the regulations regarding official emails.
 
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