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Most at the ends of the spectrum are generally incapable of rational thought and discussion unfortunately. Typically the more extreme the views the less they can even fathom let alone begin to see the views of others.

liberals aren't at the end of any spectrum. Try again.
 
not true. That link Cy shared was from the intercept, they have been blasting Obama NON-STOP on this throughout his presidency. They also blasted him with his recent actions on Yemen. Go look into Jeremy Scahill's book, articles, and upcoming podcasts.

The left slams this rhetoric just as much as the crazy **** all the way on the right.

Sure, there are a few smaller outlets that do. You know what I'm referring to though. All the sjw warriors on twitter/Facebook, CNN, MSN, etc etc...the big dogs.
 
Yes they are neener neener.

A true political spectrum would be a circle. Maybe a mathematical discontinuity point at the place where "left" anarchists and "right" anarchists engage in total warfare to prove who's the top dawg.

people ordinarily accept some form of government involving a balance of social or collective concerns and private or personal concerns. That's about where the US Constitution stands. If you go left you want to use collective rhetoric to achieve private ends. That is why the super rich are leftists. They know they can own the government if they can convince the sheeple the government "cares". If you go right politicians use "conservative" rhetoric to convince the sheeple that they are "free" if you will let them govern as they please.
 
A true political spectrum would be a circle.



wrong

it is like a simple slider. all the way to the left. government/community power to the MAX
all the way to the right ultimate absence of govenrment!


no SUCH thing as left anarchism. all left wing philosophies require STRONG central command/government
 
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something like this


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or this

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or this

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and yes communism and Nazism contrary to popular indoctrination and brain washing are EXTREME left wing.
nazism = national socialism(read meinf kamp and look at Hitler domestic socialist policies)
fascism = socialism with military borders because of external forces(study history and look at mousilini)
 
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tell me HOW this one makes sense we go from communism and next step is "anarchism"
REALLY. communism where everything is controlled by central command and we make a small step then we get anarchism?

or is small government libertarian and we have less laws/power lead to anarchism!
 
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tell me HOW this one makes sense we go from communism and next step is "anarchism"
REALLY. communism where everything is controlled by central command and we make a small step then we get anarchism?

or is small government libertarian and we have less laws/power lead to anarchism!

Its got to make some sense. You can see right now whats happening when the left doesnt get their way. They go straight to anarchy.

Its something like either you make other people pay for our way or we will just take it. You give us what we want, or we will take it.

I think anarchy has to be to the left. You didn't see conservatives rioting in the streets when Obama was elected.
 
Its got to make some sense. You can see right now whats happening when the left doesnt get their way. They go straight to anarchy.

Its something like either you make other people pay for our way or we will just take it. You give us what we want, or we will take it.

I think anarchy has to be to the left. You didn't see conservatives rioting in the streets when Obama was elected.

that's where you are wrong. anarchy is the absence of government. but i see where you are comming from, because due to indoctrination anarchy now means CHAOS? which it is not..

so politcally how cna we go from total government to the next logical step governmentless.


if left wing is total true government, rightwing is governmentless.

the more right you go the smalle government they preach!
 
Well, Dutch. . . maybe there's another view.

tribal peoples are usually pretty social, communal. Amer natives didn't have personal property but they would war with the next tribe to dominate some area or niche, and they literally had to be prepared for war every time they reached another hilltop and got a new view of what's "out there". The six civilized nations of American Indians actually were a model for our American government in that the six nations could work together in war and be independent in other aspects, and maintained a peace between themselves. The model limited the collective power in some respects, and guaranteed local, tribal and even individual autonomy to a degree. Pretty good for a "commune".

I could improve my circle by pointing out that more shared or communal power is one extreme and more concentrated power is the other. The fact that "closes" the circle is the fact that both left and right wings can produce dictators. The result or effect becomes the same.

communism produces, sometimes, a Stalin or Pol Pot. Oligarchy can become fascist in the sense that a network of interests rule to the exclusion of lesser people. Both can deny human rights.

My point was mainly that rhetoric is used by both extremes to deny ordinary people a healthy say in their government.
 
So Dutch, you realize that your graphs contradict themselves right?

For example:

Which side are the anarchists on? Left or right?
Are the Rs and Ds at the same spot on the spectrum or are they not?
How can Monarchism be the extreme left and yet be to the right of conservatism?
 
Come on dalamon, you are smarter than that. Are you so naive to believe that 36.000 Syrian refugees whom Trudeaus government brought to Canada cost us nothing? Maybe when you will have a family to take care of and kids to raise you will understand it better without articles or numbers but here, just read this.

It's about 1 billion from tax payers pocket in Canada.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/03/22/syrian-refugees-federal-budget-2016_n_9525346.html

Lets look at UK... hm, its worse... 1.7bil

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-slams-ministers-making-no-estimate-cost.html

How about USA - 2.3 bil

https://www.wnd.com/2015/11/taxpayer-bill-to-resettle-35000-mideast-refugees-2-3-billion/

Still want to argue about economic drag? Still waiting on your opinion on oppressive laws towards women in one of the best places to visit....

I asked you for scientific, intelligent justification. You're a vet & very clearly not an economist, so stop pretending to be one. Up front investments in educational programs for refugees represent only a slice of the overall impact of refugees on a nation's economy. How else do you think Germany took in one million?


From the Economist:



Don't waste my time with your simplistic posts. Find me links to academic papers describing the impact of refugees on economies, or go find some other moron that you might have a hope in convincing

Add more worker bees, make more honey. Pretty simple formula really. This DOES NOT translate in to higher production per person or raised living standards. In fact, it "relieves wage pressure" which means STAGNATION IN THE MIDDLE CLASS.

Accepting refugees should have NOTHING to do with economics anyway. It is about compassion.
 
So Dutch, you realize that your graphs contradict themselves right?

For example:

Which side are the anarchists on? Left or right?
Are the Rs and Ds at the same spot on the spectrum or are they not?
How can Monarchism be the extreme left and yet be to the right of conservatism?

i think you are taking it wrong.
anarchism is right wing(small govenrment)


the 2nd post is contradicting yes, because thats one i don't agree with and even said so with the words"tell me how that one makes sense"(might be my "bad English" that leads to this misconception!)
yes in a large degree big government republicans are on virtually same spot as the D's.

the first 3 are closest to the true original left right paradigm.

seriously if you look at Nazism domestic policies and everything it in no way is right wing.
 
The President just announced new sanctions on Iran over its missile test. 13 individuals and 12 companies are now blacklisted. But the individuals include non Iranians. There are also Chinese, Emirati and Lebanese individuals. All involved in procuring missile tech for Iran.

I wonder how China, UAE and Lebanon will respond.

Also moved a US navy destroyer to the coast of Yemen.
 
The President just announced new sanctions on Iran over its missile test. 13 individuals and 12 companies are now blacklisted. But the individuals include non Iranians. There are also Chinese, Emirati and Lebanese individuals. All involved in procuring missile tech for Iran.

I wonder how China, UAE and Lebanon will respond.

Also moved a US navy destroyer to the coast of Yemen.

in a way regarding the iran deal, i wish the left was still in control. because now the right will get the blame for the iran deal.
trump should offer obama a job, iran us nuclear liason
 
in a way regarding the iran deal, i wish the left was still in control. because now the right will get the blame for the iran deal.
trump should offer obama a job, iran us nuclear liason

The blame game that the Rs and Ds play does not concern me. That is their problem.
 
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