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Step-Back Lauri said:
Is there any Trump supporter here that's ready to admit the **** lately has gone too far and is ridiculing democracy? Do you have balls for it, are you all chickedy cowards?
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Of course not. He has stolen directly from Americans, stolen from charity, been impeached twice, is a convicted felon, committed sexual assault (and bragged about it) and raped children and they still support him. And that is just a tiny little list of atrocities he has done.
He is the most corrupt, scandalous, dishonest and immoral person to ever even run for office.

trump told us he could commit murder and not lose any supporters. He called his own supporters sheep and they said nothing except baa baa.

The stuff he is doing and saying now is nothing compared to the things he has already said and done in the past.

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See guys, it’s all just a joke! Stop taking it so seriously! It’s just trolling.

It’s funny, huh?


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LogGrad98 said:
This is where the problems with the hard-left elitist leaders of the party sitting on their laurels and patting themselves on the back for having the moral high-ground comes back to bite them. How can they reach out to a middle-class family of white rednecks in Alabama or whatever when they can't stop reminding those same rednecks how backward and hopeless they are in their regressive opinions on gender rights or how stupid they are for hiding behind their religion and calling them hypocrites for their conflicting stance on race relations and their hard-core Christian nationalism. Until the leaders of the party get off their high horses it won't get any better and they have no hope of being the party of the poor and working class when all they have shown is they look down their noses at them constantly. That has to change. Otherwise those same working class rednecks will continue looking for a Trump to validate their world-view and support him no matter what because he says what they feel... Namely "**** them, I'll take care of this rampant persecution of Christians" and they'll believe him and follow him to the end of the earth. Anthony Bourdain was right on that assessment for sure.
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That’s the problem, the left has had its hand out the entire time. As soon as that hand was a black man’s, the darkness our country never reconciled with reared up again and slapped the hand away and shot it dead.

You yourself, and many on here, watched it happen, let it happen, justified it, and supported it. All in the name of partisan politics. While I’m glad you and a few on here saw the light, your relentless support of the right wing is why we are here. You can’t blame the left, not democrats - the left, we’ve been screaming this stuff for decades and you all ignored us cause tan suits and birth certificates. Real conservatives, now moderates, need to take accountability for what you’ve help build.

Don’t get me wrong, I feel for you and have already forgiven you, even before you saw the light. I’m happy for you all and glad you’re here. But to blame the left and not take responsibility for your role in this is disappointing and honestly we’re tired of it. That attitude is what got us here.

Don’t be afraid to stand up to injustice and obvious hatred, ever. The minute you get in their face they cower like a kicked dog. Just watch what happens once the country turns on them.


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Sardines said:
I'm going to be super honest.

I think what kills labor movements is that white people have to work together with non-white people and put forth an argument that they are all equal as laborers. White people want to think they're getting the better deal more than they want to advance their class.
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This is one example of how white supremacy and fascism shows it self. There are many, many others if you’re looking. Keep being super honest!


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Step-Back Lauri said:
Is there any Trump supporter here that's ready to admit the **** lately has gone too far and is ridiculing democracy? Do you have balls for it, are you all chickedy cowards?
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Too far? That would be a 'no'.

Too many corrupt and useless bureaucrats still have jobs. Too many governmental systems have yet to be fully audited to find the fraud, waste and abuse in how our tax dollars are spent. The war in Ukraine isn't over yet. Gaza is still a pile of rubble filled with terrorists. Wages are finally rising faster than inflation but we have a long way to go to undo the damage the Democrats caused over the last four years. We are still at the beginning. The first green shoots are only starting to poke through.

Are you willing to admit Democrats effed things up completely? The American people don't want a President who turned his back on anyone asking questions. The American people don't support abortion of a baby after he or she is born alive. The American people don't support a wide open southern border. The American people don't support cancelling a vote to impose a figure everyone can see is subpar. The American people don't support racial quotas or surgical "confirmations" on children.

Look at the polls. The American people HATE you. They hate Democrats in congress. There is no Democrat thought leader right now because every one who steps forward is hated.

Here is an idea: Fix your own party while the adults are fixing the world.
 
Good job, America. Seems like you like to hurt kids the most.

11-Year-Old Texas Girl Bullied Over Family's Immigration Status Takes Her Own Life -
Students also threatened to call ICE to deport the girl's family

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11-Year-Old Texas Girl Bullied Over Family's Immigration Status Takes Her Own Life

A sixth grade girl took her life after classmates bullied her over her family's immigration status and threatened to contact ICE to deport her parents.
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Step-Back Lauri said:
Is there any Trump supporter here that's ready to admit the **** lately has gone too far and is ridiculing democracy? Do you have balls for it, are you all chickedy cowards?
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Very few. Most of the base have embraced domestic terrorism. ~20% of the population if I had to guess. The ends justifies the means now. They are all in. See our local JF pecker woods.

Regular *** America, who voted for him, has to save us now. God help us.


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Sardines said:
I'm going to be super honest.

I think what kills labor movements is that white people have to work together with non-white people and put forth an argument that they are all equal as laborers. White people want to think they're getting the better deal more than they want to advance their class.
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Racist much? You think the color of someone's skin determines brain function. People of this skin tone think one way, and people of a different skin tone think a different way. The thing about those who parrot this clearly racist idea is that most are convinced saying the racist thing marks them as opposing racism. Get a clue. Skin color doesn't determine cognitive processes.
 
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Step-Back Lauri said:
Is there any Trump supporter here that's ready to admit the **** lately has gone too far and is ridiculing democracy? Do you have balls for it, are you all chickedy cowards?
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People seldom recognize what is going on, WHILE it is going on. The hindsight of history is enlightening, but it’s the failure to realize that the past INFORMS the present that is so frustrating for those who see, at least somewhat more clearly, what is happening at the time. I can’t remember the number of times I’ve laid this on my friends: Never sleepwalk through that portion of History that is yours to live. Frustration is a mild way of describing what it feels like to have the benefit of knowing historical context, knowing demagogues appear in societies undergoing political, economic, cultural and social stressers, yet having to accept as fact that, at times like this, far too many are ill equipped to recognize what is happening. So, bringing up things like “hey, doesn’t the Ukraine “peace” talks resemble Chamberlain and appeasement?”….falls on ears uneducated in history.

On a much simpler level, MAGA is only interested in owning “the enemy within”, which is how they have come to regard anyone who opposes Trump. I doubt it will happen, but even if Trump recommended “reeducation camps” for Democrats, for those for whom owning the libs is more important than the survival of democracy in America, that recommendation would be supported, by at least some.
 
Trump’s most amazing troll job is on his own followers.

They’re destroying institutions and the Constitution

They openly use neo-Nazi rhetoric and propaganda and think it’s funny. Some of them literally Nazi-saluted standing in front of the Presidential seal and on social media.

They’ve been cornered by his total destruction of America financially, internationally and domestically, they cant believe everyone hates them. Dense.

He’s turned them into russian bots. Look at our JF MAGA’s, their arguments are child-like, posting twitter burns like it’s news. ****, they’ve probably always been bots, doesn’t really matter.


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BabyPeterzz said:
Trump’s most amazing troll job is on his own followers.

They’re destroying institutions and the Constitution

They openly use neo-Nazi rhetoric and propaganda and think it’s funny. Some of them literally Nazi-saluted standing in front of the Presidential seal and on social media.

They’ve been cornered by his total destruction of America financially, internationally and domestically, they cant believe everyone hates them. Dense.

He’s turned them into russian bots. Look at our JF MAGA’s, their arguments are child-like, posting twitter burns like it’s news. ****, they’ve probably always been bots, doesn’t really matter.


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One of the JF MAGA's literally just told a non American poster that America hates them lol. So dumb
 
LogGrad98 said:
That is a problem, I think we've lost sight of what it means to be a moderate, or rather we each have our own idea of what a moderate is and that tends to shoehorn people automatically into the other camp. Take Buck calling me a leftist. I'm all for the 2nd amendment and I own and really enjoy my guns, but I also think we need some common sense gun laws to try to at least chip away at the rampant shootings occurring in our country at rates literally orders of magnitude higher than any other developed nation, but I think we also need to find ways to address mental health issues in conjunction with these gun laws so people who are unstable can't get guns as easily. So which camp am I in? Remember, I by our modem definition MUST be shoehorned in one camp. So am I a right wing gun nut because I own, shoot and really enjoy my guns and don't want to give them up? Am I an irrational leftist who hates the Constitution because I feel we need a few restrictions on gun ownership? We've entirely lost the ability to have any level of nuance in opinion in this country. It was already happening way back in the 90's. We saw it exemplified in the Iraq war when Democrats voted to go to war then immediately backpedaled when they saw this was unpopular instead of sticking to their guns and owning an actually decision. And again when Obama killed Romney because he 1) said "binders full of women" and 2) was one of the few politicians who was capable of changing his mind (on abortion no less) but wasn't allowed to do that since he was then a "flip-flopper" when really that is the kind of politician we should want, one who has the convictions and intelligence to get new information, incorporate it into his world view, and make a reasoned decision to change his mind accordingly. But no, we must all be automatons with no ability to think beyond the party line, which lead us inexorably to the final evolution of this kind of no-quarter-given politics in a race to fascism on one side and an inability to put together 2 ideas to figure out how to stop the fascist on the other and no one is allowed to occupy any middle ground. But this is the inevitable position of a pure 2-party system. We won't survive this long-term if this model of political system isn't upended with a viable third party.
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You bring up the 2nd Amendment and you don’t want to give up your guns, yet you don’t bring up how you wanted Kamala who is for mandatory gun buyback. You don’t even stand up against this.

Mandatory gun buyback - Far Left

Let’s talk about how you want a department of speech. You want the government to govern our speech and online communication.

Government speech control - far left

Let’s talk about expanding the courts. You’re upset that the SC is leaning more right than left. But you cheer to expand the court only if the left does it. I don’t hear you wanting to expand the court now.

Court expansion - far left

Wealth and Billionaires. So anti wealth and increase of taxes. Blame issues on wealth and people who are successful.

Anti Capitalist - far left

You want to claim you’re moderate yet your policies are very far left (for America). You are not as far left as Thriller but you’re not moderate or have any right wing policy wants

You agree with calling me a ….ing Kook. Yet my views are:
Protect 2nd A
Don’t expand courts for either side
Pro Capitalist
Pro Free Speech
Pause immigration/ don’t deport
German style health care
Free government sponsored college
Larger social net
UBI
Smaller military

Yet you call me MAGA and a Trump lover and far right. Yet those positions do not fit in the right or left. But I’m a kook for these positions…yet these positions would bring the country together and bring more people to the middle than going Far left or Far right.
 
Bucknutz said:
You bring up the 2nd Amendment and you don’t want to give up your guns, yet you don’t bring up how you wanted Kamala who is for mandatory gun buyback. You don’t even stand up against this.

Mandatory gun buyback - Far Left

Let’s talk about how you want a department of speech. You want the government to govern our speech and online communication.

Government speech control - far left

Let’s talk about expanding the courts. You’re upset that the SC is leaning more right than left. But you cheer to expand the court only if the left does it. I don’t hear you wanting to expand the court now.

Court expansion - far left

Wealth and Billionaires. So anti wealth and increase of taxes. Blame issues on wealth and people who are successful.

Anti Capitalist - far left

You want to claim you’re moderate yet your policies are very far left (for America). You are not as far left as Thriller but you’re not moderate or have any right wing policy wants

You agree with calling me a ….ing Kook. Yet my views are:
Protect 2nd A
Don’t expand courts for either side
Pro Capitalist
Pro Free Speech
Pause immigration/ don’t deport
German style health care
Free government sponsored college
Larger social net
UBI
Smaller military

Yet you call me MAGA and a Trump lover and far right. Yet those positions do not fit in the right or left. But I’m a kook for these positions…yet these positions would bring the country together and bring more people to the middle than going Far left or Far right.
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Yeah, cool man. Seems reasonable.

Until you look at the giant dumpster fire raging behind you.

Forgive me if I don’t engage with really anything you “believe”. You’ve shown us who you are.

You’re not reasonable at this point, and the fact that you ask us to take you as a reasonable person is kinda funny man.


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BabyPeterzz said:
Yeah, cool man. Seems reasonable.

Until you look at the giant dumpster fire raging behind you.

Forgive me if I don’t engage with really anything you “believe”. You’ve shown us who you are.

You’re not reasonable at this point, and the fact that you ask us to take you as a reasonable person is kinda funny man.


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What have I shown you? Please show me where I haven’t been reasonable . Show me ripping Biden every day. Show me praising Trump every day.

You can’t. I’ve been consistent. Others keep going left and left and left so I’m far right compared to your views.

Just because I don’t call the majority of voters Nazis or Nazi supporters and can actually see why people vote the way they do, doesn’t make me MAGA.

The left, far left are the ones that need to take their blinders off, actually communicate with opposing views. I don’t have anyone on block. But majority on here from the left can’t even try to discuss polices with the right. Who are the ones that are closed minded? The left.
 
Here is something for you ***** to think about, under trump the world will view you as a hostile state. And they are right to doing so. I would say America right now is anti-democratic and a terrorist state. **** all you *****
 
Rubashov said:
Here is something for you ***** to think about, under trump the world will view you as a hostile state. And they are right to doing so. I would say America right now is anti-democratic and a terrorist state. **** all you *****
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Yeah, it's not great, I don't expect our alliances anywhere to last through this presidency (maybe an exception for Israel... yay /s)

European ones are already in tatters with the Russian dickriding (check out the most recent UK poll on Zelensky/Trump/Putin), going out of our way to antagonize our North American neighbors.

Haven't majorly gone after various friends across the Pacific, but I imagine he'll get around to it.

America has voluntarily given up their position as global hegemon to China (potential emergence of European superstate to make it multipolar). What a ****ing own goal.
 
Rubashov said:
Here is something for you ***** to think about, under trump the world will view you as a hostile state. And they are right to doing so. I would say America right now is anti-democratic and a terrorist state. **** all you *****
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And this will very much start affecting international trade. Whenever you have a choice between either American or other nation to trade with, you want to choose the more reliable trade partner, especially if other parameters are close enough. Trump administration is undermining the credibility of their nation with a world record phase.

Although at least Trump doesn't care about that at all... He's so old he might be relatively soon dead by natural reasons. Now he just wants money, trolling and revenge.
 
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