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This forum feels much cleaner today!!! That’s a reason to celebrate!

For those folks who want “factory jobs” back, can I suggest that they go work construction right now? If you’re not willing to work construction then shut up about “bringing back duh factories.” It won’t be you or your kids working these hard manual labor jobs, it’ll be immigrants.

Nothing sounds more tone deaf and privileged to me right now that trumpers who spend 20 hours per day online talking about “bringing back the factories.”
 
fishonjazz said:
One thing I find kind of interesting is that the biggest issues around election time were inflation and illegal immigration/the border.

Doesn't seem like anyone even talks about or cares about illegal immigration/the border now. It was a huge issue last fall but now I never hear about it. Haven't heard any numbers on it at all really. Are there less illegal immigrants crossing the border now? No one really seems to care anymore.
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Its funny who knew you just had to betray your allies, surrender to your historical enemy, disappear people from the streets, start a global trade war which will likely ruin your economy and the world economy and basically suspend democracy and free speech. If you'd do all that people would worry less about inflation and the border and start planning to cross the border to get away from the madness as soon as possible?
 
Fosto said:
White House press bimbo says that our rapist felon of a president is behind a spiritual revival in the US, and is bringing us closer to God.

www.independent.co.uk

Trump is behind a ‘spiritual revival’ in the U.S,’ says Karoline Leavitt

Karoline Leavitt said that evidence of renewed faith, especially within younger generations was becoming more visible and that it was a ‘beautiful sight’
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Moving closer to god? She's an ignorant, lying, immoral, evil ****. Bless the nuns down at St Bernadette's for all the crap they taught they never taught me to be a lying, immoral, evil ****. And if I was it certainly wasn't going to be in harmony with my goddamn religion.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
Are you familiar with the marshmallow test? It is a test to measure a child’s ability to delay gratification. The nature of your argument is to say eating the marshmallow is better than not eating the marshmallow, and you totally ignore down-the-line consequences. All of the things I listed, getting rid of fraud, modernization, reduction of redundancy, etc., have long term benefits.

With the tariffs, I’m not so sure they do have long term benefits. The architect of this idea says they will, and I’m not talking about Trump. He didn’t come up with this idea. Scott Bessant has been pushing it for years. Trump is only the one selling the goodness of tariffs to the American people, and I’m not buying what he’s selling. I'm open to being proven wrong, but my instinct is that free trade is better than taxed trade.
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Funny, I see your behavior exactly as you just described. DOGE is eating the marshmallow man! Yes, everything you mentioned is good and virtuous, most would agree. It’s your understanding of externalities and how they impact long term goals and objectives is where you’re off. Your analogy is as simple as your approach and, heads up, you ate the marshmallow a long time ago and then told lies to cover it up. That’s not strategic thinking, that backing into opinions and it’s obvious and infuriating for people who recognize it.

“I want this. I skip that because it slows what I want. I get this and didn’t skip that.”

You don’t acknowledge and actively ignore what does not fit your opinions, logic be damned. I think everyone thinks you do this on purpose, hence the troll brand. I think you really believe what you say here. The problem is that your opinions are built on a broken foundation, which is why you are so wrong right now. Lies catch up with everyone. You don’t need to admit it or apologize for being a liar, we all watched you lie over and over to protect your ego and feelings. Denial is a hell of a drug and most will lie till they can’t. You obviously one of those people. If you want to make up for it act with integrity and honesty from now on. This will take years of work and commitment.

Wanna actually be what you call yourself? Don’t eat the marshmallow.


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Al-O-Meter said:
Are you familiar with the marshmallow test? It is a test to measure a child’s ability to delay gratification. The nature of your argument is to say eating the marshmallow is better than not eating the marshmallow, and you totally ignore down-the-line consequences. All of the things I listed, getting rid of fraud, modernization, reduction of redundancy, etc., have long term benefits.

With the tariffs, I’m not so sure they do have long term benefits. The architect of this idea says they will, and I’m not talking about Trump. He didn’t come up with this idea. Scott Bessant has been pushing it for years. Trump is only the one selling the goodness of tariffs to the American people, and I’m not buying what he’s selling. I'm open to being proven wrong, but my instinct is that free trade is better than taxed trade.
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Also, Trump has been talking about tariffs since his first term. How is this a surprise to you? You’ve been pushing his support, making excuses for him, and lying.

You did this. You’re not off the train all of the sudden. We’re all on it and people like you put us here.


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The Thriller said:
This forum feels much cleaner today!!! That’s a reason to celebrate!

For those folks who want “factory jobs” back, can I suggest that they go work construction right now? If you’re not willing to work construction then shut up about “bringing back duh factories.” It won’t be you or your kids working these hard manual labor jobs, it’ll be immigrants.

Nothing sounds more tone deaf and privileged to me right now that trumpers who spend 20 hours per day online talking about “bringing back the factories.”
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The thing about “bringing back factories” is people think that means they’ll come with high paying jobs that don’t require a degree. Those jobs used to exist because of unions, you know, those things that have all but disappeared in this country.
 
Zombie said:
The thing about “bringing back factories” is people think that means they’ll come with high paying jobs that don’t require a degree. Those jobs used to exist because of unions, you know, those things that have all but disappeared in this country.
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The more hilarious part is it never left. The US is second in terms of overall value of manufactured output and is pretty high by any measurable metric. The simple fact is cheap products go where labor is cheapest. Trump sells folks on a notion that manufacturing clothes pins will pay people $70k when that dog don't hunt. Americans are by in large idiots, so whatever floats their boats.
 
Zombie said:
The thing about “bringing back factories” is people think that means they’ll come with high paying jobs that don’t require a degree. Those jobs used to exist because of unions, you know, those things that have all but disappeared in this country.
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TheStormofWar said:
The more hilarious part is it never left. The US is second in terms of overall value of manufactured output and is pretty high by any measurable metric. The simple fact is cheap products go where labor is cheapest. Trump sells folks on a notion that manufacturing clothes pins will pay people $70k when that dog don't hunt. Americans are by in large idiots, so whatever floats their boats.
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Dunno what you guys are talking about, there is plenty of manufacturing going on in private prisons.
 
Rubashov said:
Dunno what you guys are talking about, there is plenty of manufacturing going on in private prisons.
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Ah yes. I wondering where the workforce for all these factory jobs was coming from.
I thought of children doing the work. Of immigrants doing the work. But prisoners makes the most sense.
America has a huge prison population.
 
fishonjazz said:
Ah yes. I wondering where the workforce for all these factory jobs was coming from.
I thought of children doing the work. Of immigrants doing the work. But prisoners makes the most sense.
America has a huge prison population.
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Oh its kids are doing it too. If you actually visit rural America, you’ll see how young they start working. Now even more so with continued disinvestment and grifting by the haves.

Some states, West Virginia for one, is trying to loosen child labor laws. They would put children in coal lines if they could, and have.


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BabyPeterzz said:
Oh Jo kids are doing it too. If you actually visit rural America, you’ll see how young they start working. Now even more so with continued disinvestment and grifting by the haves.

Some states, West Virginia for one, is trying to loosen child labor laws. They would put children in coal lines if they could, and have.


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Florida very recently loosened their child labor laws.
 
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