Trump Solved North Korea... Didn't He?

[Miggs]

Is anyone else excited for the "Christmas Gift" Kim promised the U.S.?

They have announced that denuclearization is off the table. That's what prompted this thread. This is current events that maybe some of the trolls are not aware of.

North Korea will NOT be denuclearizing. In fact they will be giving the U.S. a surprise "Christmas Gift."

We have gained nothing while giving Kim legitimacy and photo ops galore.

This is not the result of well thought out foreign policy on the part of the U.S.. This is the result of impulsiveness and a longing fondness for dictatorial power by Trump

Well I’m glad I live on the East coast.

 

[The Thriller]

What is solving NK?

Well, the dream scenario would be a unified and Democratic Korean peninsula.

But if we're being realistic, I think we're limited in what we can do against North Korea. I think we can control how we legitimize them. We don't have to offer anymore joke summits with coins, photo-ops, and love letters.
I think there's a lot more we can do to support our South Korean and Japanese allies. We could start by not bashing them every chance we get. We could also stop all this nonsense talk about "charging them" for protection.

 

[The Thriller]

Well I’m glad I live on the East coast.

The East Coast is a liberal dumpster fire swamp where all the educated coastal elitists live. You and your ilk don't respect "real Amerika" with our country diners and MAGA hats...

 

[Miggs]

Well, the dream scenario would be a unified and Democratic Korean peninsula.

But if we're being realistic, I think we're limited in what we can do against North Korea. I think we can control how we legitimize them. We don't have to offer anymore joke summits with coins, photo-ops, and love letters.
I think there's a lot more we can do to support our South Korean and Japanese allies. We could start by not bashing them every chance we get. We could also stop all this nonsense talk about "charging them" for protection.

When do we bash South Korea and Japan?

 

[The Thriller]

When do we bash South Korea and Japan?

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/11/15/trump-asks-tokyo-quadruple-payments-us-troops-japan/

Washington seeks to renew denuclearization talks with Pyongyang, U.S. President Donald Trump is asking Japan, a longtime ally that the United States leans on for stability in the region, to pay drastically more to cover the cost of a continued U.S. military presence in that country.

The administration has asked Tokyo to pay roughly four times as much per year to offset the costs of stationing more than 50,000 U.S. troops there, current and former U.S. officials familiar with the matter told Foreign Policy.

Japan is not the only Asian ally the United States is asking to cough up more money for continued U.S. troop presence. The officials confirmed that during that same trip, Bolton and Pottinger made a similar demand of South Korea, which hosts 28,500 U.S. troops, asking Seoul to pay five times as much as it currently does. CNN and Reuters previously reported that Trump had demanded Seoul increase its contribution.

The move to pressure Asian allies to shell out more for the continued U.S. presence in the region, some experts warn, could exacerbate tensions between the United States and its Asian allies, playing into the hands of rivals such as China and North Korea.

“This kind of demand, not only the exorbitant number, but the way it is being done, could trigger anti-Americanism” in some of the United States’ historically closest allies, said Bruce Klingner, a scholar at the Heritage Foundation think tank and former CIA analyst. “If you weaken alliances, and potentially decrease deterrence and U.S. troop presence, that benefits North Korea, China, and Russia who see the potential for reduced U.S. influence and support for our allies.”

One current official put it more bluntly: “it completely misunderstands the value” of alliances and runs counter to the administration’s strategy of reorienting to focus on so-called great power competition with Russia and China.

“They have to be willing to pick up a larger share of the burden, as the president has emphasized globally, not just related to South Korea,” said Randall Schriver, the assistant secretary of defense for Asia-Pacific policy, this week, ahead of a visit by Defense Secretary Mark Esper to the region.

 

[Miggs]

That’s a Trump and his ******* admin thing.

 

[The Thriller]

That’s a Trump and his ******* admin thing.

LOL. Yep. These are our allies:


(fast forward to :40)

I was using the "we" to speak as our country... If Trump demands South Korea and Japan pay more, then essentially we are asking them to pay up or else, right?

 

[Stars Fan]

Yes , and so has the FBI, DOJ, House of representatives, etc... and where are the charges of collusion with Russia? Can you point to them? There is no in between. Either you have evidence of a crime or you dont. Its not guilty until you prove yourself innocent. Its innocent until proven guilty. You need to provide evidence of what you are claiming. I dont need to find evidence that proves you aren't right. Its impossible to do that.

The FBI saying that Trump hasnt been exonerated is a cheap tactic to smear him without evidence. Its BS. Trump is automatically exonerated when you dont have evidence of a crime. He is innocent. You dont have proof of guilty anywhere.

In fact, the hard evidence we have is that the FBI lied and made up the scandal with the help of Hillary Clinton. That we do know.

The real question is have you read the Mueller report, or the the Horowitz Report? Im not sure if you have noticed or not, but recently the media and the FBI have been put back on their heals and are having to defend themselves now for pushing a bogus conspiracy.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...sia-investigation-questions-remaining-928081/

"The Horowitz report makes clear that multiple news cycles over the last few years were dominated by reports that were either incorrect or lacking factual foundation."




"I was wrong" - Comey

I doubt that you have actually read the Mueller report because you insist that it exonerates President Trump. If you had really read it, and are not just "Trolling for effect," you would remember that it says in black and white that it "does not exonerate 'the President.'" (Vol 2, Page 2, section 4) Since that was the original claim I stand by my statement that no one who has read the report can truly believe that it exonerates Trump.

The rest is just flying monkeys pulling the curtain closed on our "Shyster in Chief" and protecting him from his own bad acts and judgment...which is a full-time job these days.

The decision not to impeach Ol' Donny the Grip on the Russian interference investigation was a political one, and imho a huge mistake. It made all of the evidence easier to bury and ignore. I understand that Pelosi was concerned that the Republikans would sell out their consciences for a drink at the Trump trough, and I think she had that right. However, she should have held to principal and not political considerations and moved on the impeachment then and for that reason. She left it open to the flying monkeys to claim that it was all just bogus and a conspiracy against the poor little rich man in the oval office.

 

[Hotdog]

I doubt that you have actually read the Mueller report because you insist that it exonerates President Trump. If you had really read it, and are not just "Trolling for effect," you would remember that it says in black and white that it "does not exonerate 'the President.'" (Vol 2, Page 2, section 4) Since that was the original claim I stand by my statement that no one who has read the report can truly believe that it exonerates Trump.

The rest is just flying monkeys pulling the curtain closed on our "Shyster in Chief" and protecting him from his own bad acts and judgment...which is a full-time job these days.

The decision not to impeach Ol' Donny the Grip on the Russian interference investigation was a political one, and imho a huge mistake. It made all of the evidence easier to bury and ignore. I understand that Pelosi was concerned that the Republikans would sell out their consciences for a drink at the Trump trough, and I think she had that right. However, she should have held to principal and not political considerations and moved on the impeachment then and for that reason. She left it open to the flying monkeys to claim that it was all just bogus and a conspiracy against the poor little rich man in the oval office.

You didnt even read my post.

The law doesnt exonerate people. He is innocent until proven guilty.