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Jonah said:
This thread is all over the place, so just a brief response to the previous conclusory posts about how it's not possible to raise a child on $15 an hour unless you want to live a life of poverty. It’s a testament to the privilege and opportunity of so many that this is seen as a choice and not a way of living. I know dozens of individuals and families (mostly first generation immigrants from my neighborhood) that live near or below poverty levels. Raising a family with numerous children on $15 dollars an hour, with steady work and the support of friends, extended family and the community, is everyday life for a large segment of Utah's population, and it’s more often than not done with pride and an appreciation for life that’s lacking in many with more choice and opportunity.
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Fantastic post.
 
Dr. Jones said:
Yes, apparently you need to treat me nice cuz I'm like you're only friend and stuff.
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lol.

Poor Joe Bag. And, I'm being serious here. That dude got run over by something. Something transpired in the last 3 or so years. I've honestly started feeling bad for him lately. FWIW
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Do you wish you had a friend like Hillary?
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You don't have any friends who achieved success largely because of who they know or who they're related to? You don't have any friends who screwed up something at work then lied to cover it up? You don't have any friends who are willing to change their mind about an issue for personal gain?

Where the **** do you live, a Buddhist monastery?
 
JimLes said:
You don't have any friends who achieved success largely because of who they know or who they're related to? You don't have any friends who screwed up something at work then lied to cover it up? You don't have any friends who are willing to change their mind about an issue for personal gain?

Where the **** do you live, a Buddhist monastery?
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You in prison?
 
JimLes said:
You don't have any friends who achieved success largely because of who they know or who they're related to? You don't have any friends who screwed up something at work then lied to cover it up? You don't have any friends who are willing to change their mind about an issue for personal gain?

Where the **** do you live, a Buddhist monastery?
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Red said he didn't want a friend like Trump. I asked him if he wanted a friend like Hillary. I have no idea why you think your response is relevant to that conversation.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Red said he didn't want a friend like Trump. I asked him if he wanted a friend like Hillary. I have no idea why you think your response is relevant to that conversation.
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Because I wouldn't want a friend like Trump and I don't have friends like Trump. I don't have a single friend who airs xenophobic or racist views, at least in front of me. I do have friends like Hillary.
 
Siro said:
So you make about $2000 after taxes. Your rent and bills (including internet and cell phone) is around $800. I assume you need a cheaper car, plus gas. So generously, that's $1200 a month in bills. You have $800 remaining for all your other expenses, plus those of your kid...

Of course you CAN do it. But you'd be living in poverty.
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That is without any sort of emergency like car breaking down, having to miss work because of injury/illness, your kid gets sick, etc.

It'd be irresponsible to your child not to apply for government benefit/assistance.

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Joe Bagadonuts said:
Do you wish you had a friend like Hillary?
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Well, I'm not as quick to say no, so you can take that for whatever it might say. It would be a lot easier in her case. Think I could find some redeeming values and points of view/philosophy that I could be comfortable with where she is concerned. Probably because corruption, if that is in fact to be associated with her, just does not turn me off as much as all the negative things to which, thanks to his own words, I have come to associate with Trump. The most truthful answer is that I'm not quite sure. Whereas with Trump, he's gone past the point of no return so clearly, I'm sure. Don't feel I know Hillary as well.she hasn't been spewing hateful rhetoric for the last year plus. That's in her favor.
 
JimLes said:
Because I wouldn't want a friend like Trump and I don't have friends like Trump. I don't have a single friend who airs xenophobic or racist views, at least in front of me. I do have friends like Hillary.
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Hmm. If that's the case then that's a lot better way to say it than the way you said it before. Your previous message seemed to say something completely different.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
That is without any sort of emergency like car breaking down, having to miss work because of injury/illness, your kid gets sick, etc.

It'd be irresponsible to your child not to apply for government benefit/assistance.

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So I'll let Medicare pay for the birth and apply for food stamps. What's the problem.


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JimLes said:
Because I wouldn't want a friend like Trump and I don't have friends like Trump. I don't have a single friend who airs xenophobic or racist views, at least in front of me. I do have friends like Hillary.
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So you have friends who lie, who are the opposite of inspiring and have early stages of Parkinson's disease. That's really unfortunate and I wish them the best.


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Saint Cy of JFC said:
You were arguing that you wouldnt need government assistance because that is for lazy people.
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Never once said that about a kid. Was more referencing single adults who are doing nothing with their life living off the government.

I can change my mind, it's allowed in human.


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White Chocolate said:
Never once said that about a kid. Was more referencing single adults who are doing nothing with their life living off the government.

I can change my mind, it's allowed in human.


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So you never said it or did you change your mind?
 
White Chocolate said:
Pretty sure I can.


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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Doubtful without some kind of government assistance or a company that doesnt mind you clocking 20+ hours of OT.
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White Chocolate said:
Instead of going out to eat every other night and buying the new Madden and 2K I would be saving my money. Would be very hard at all. Just would spend less on myself and only buy things I need.


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The stance you were taking was that you could do it without government assistance.
 
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