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TSQ: Rudy/Fav - The Top 25 Big Men 25 And Under

Shaq and Dwight can both hit FT's at a somewhat acceptable rate. Pretty sure both those dudes had a season shooting at 60%. And are usually hovering around 50-55%.

Drummond is like, a 38% shooter.
 
fishonjazz said:
I like your list allot
I probably put favors ahead of drummond though...... I do think drummond has a good chance to be better than favors in a few years but isn't there yet
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It should be Favors over Drummond, my bad.
 
fishonjazz said:
Neither could shaq or Dwight or Ben Wallace
Just saying..... Free throws are not everything.

Favors is better at scoring and passing and all around right now but drummond is a better defender, rebounder, and has crazy athleticism, size, and strength to be really special someday.

And I'm not arguing with you..... Clearly stated that stoked list should have favors ahead of drummond
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Free throws incapacitate teams in the playoffs. The Clippers couldnt even play DAJ for stretches in the 4th because of his shooting. Griffin was out there playing the 5. Ben Wallace got away with his bad free-throw shooting because he basically had zero role on offense. He was never relied on for any scoring contribution. Shaq got past it because he's a top-5 all-time player & still shot way better than Drummond.
 
fishonjazz said:
I like what you have done with dieng but boogie needs to be top 5 at least. Probably top three
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If I had any of the players above him I wouldn't trade them for him. As an individual player he has more talent and skill than all those guys save brow but basketball is a team sport. If Boogie becomes a good teammate he shoots up that list. Until then no.
 
Whoever asked if they were overvaluing Green, no, the writer was not. Green is an elite defender (can guard any position--spare me that WCS can do that; that was college and he didn't do it that well because he was lazy), elite team leader and motivator, can hit the three while playing the 4 or 5 for you, has a post up game, and is an elite passer as well. There's a reason everyone on the Dubs said he was their leader and soul.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Whoever asked if they were overvaluing Green, no, the writer was not. Green is an elite defender (can guard any position--spare me that WCS can do that; that was college and he didn't do it that well because he was lazy), elite team leader and motivator, can hit the three while playing the 4 or 5 for you, has a post up game, and is an elite passer as well. There's a reason everyone on the Dubs said he was their leader and soul.
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And why he is on Team Cy.
 
Cy said:
Shaq and Dwight can both hit FT's at a somewhat acceptable rate. Pretty sure both those dudes had a season shooting at 60%. And are usually hovering around 50-55%.

Drummond is like, a 38% shooter.
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dalamon said:
Free throws incapacitate teams in the playoffs. The Clippers couldnt even play DAJ for stretches in the 4th because of his shooting. Griffin was out there playing the 5. Ben Wallace got away with his bad free-throw shooting because he basically had zero role on offense. He was never relied on for any scoring contribution. Shaq got past it because he's a top-5 all-time player & still shot way better than Drummond.
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You would think I said that drummond is a top 3 big in the league.

You guys realize that I said that favors should be ranked ahead of drummond when someone else had it the other way around right?

Drummond does have allot of value in the nba though due to the reasons I listed (defense, rebounding, size, athleticism, strength, youth, potential)

You guys act like he has no value or something.
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Also, many fans have been complaining about hack a shaq/deandre and I think that rule will be looked at very closely in the coming years and possibly changed.

Fwiw I am not and have never been a drummond fan but to act like he doesn't belong on a list of the top young bigs in the league is dumb to me
 
fishonjazz said:
You would think I said that drummond is a top 3 big in the league.

You guys realize that I said that favors should be ranked ahead of drummond when someone else had it the other way around right?

Drummond does have allot of value in the nba though due to the reasons I listed (defense, rebounding, size, athleticism, strength, youth, potential)

You guys act like he has no value or something.
Smd



Also, many fans have been complaining about hack a shaq/deandre and I think that rule will be looked at very closely in the coming years and possibly changed.

Fwiw I am not and have never been a drummond fan but to act like he doesn't belong on a list of the top young bigs in the league is dumb to me
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Fish, I like you allot and agree with allot of what you said.

Just ignore the haters.
 
orangello said:
Fish, I like you allot and agree with allot of what you said.

Just ignore the haters.
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You know what OG?...... You sure are swell
 
Would now be an appropriate time to mention how awesome Schrodum is??




















pardon me, it's Schröder
 
NAOS said:
Would now be an appropriate time to mention how awesome Schrodum is??




















pardon me, it's Schröder
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All about the dicks
Jazz fans ****
 
NAOS said:
Would now be an appropriate time to mention how awesome Schrodum is??



pardon me, it's Schröder
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a really good regular season from him as a back-up, but he didn't end the season in the playoffs in the best of notes (Burke-esqque percentages, maybe even worse). Not saying it means anything in terms of his career, but it's worth pointing out (Hayward had a similar campaign against the Spurs).

With that said, Schröder fit-wise could not have been drafted to a better team in this league.
 
dalamon said:
a really good regular season from him as a back-up, but he didn't end the season in the playoffs in the best of notes (Burke-esqque percentages, maybe even worse). Not saying it means anything in terms of his career, but it's worth pointing out (Hayward had a similar campaign against the Spurs).

With that said, Schröder fit-wise could not have been drafted to a better team in this league.
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There aren't many players in the NBA that I'd rather build a team around for the next 5-10 years than Gobert due to his defensive ability & work ethic. While Gobert & Favors may not be completely compatible due to shooting range/offensive limitations, the defense provided by them more than makes up for that. As long as they are provided enough offense/shooting from the other positions in the starting lineup/rotation, Favors & Gobert (+ Lyles/Pleiss) is already a championship caliber frontcourt that also has the chance to be not just one of the best frontcourts in the league, but possibly one of the best frontcourts (at least defensively) of all-time.
 
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