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Turkish Tweets Need Translating (Al Jefferson - Joakim Noah)

billyshelby said:
I find this alleged deal unlikely, but not ridiculous. We could roll out Noah/Favors/Sap/Kanter for a year, look to trade Sap at the deadline, and move into the future with a Noah/Favors/Kanter frontline. Noah's a little overpriced in the new CBA, not crazy, but without Sap resigned he fits some version of 3 quality bigs to eat up the 96. Offensively, it could be brutal, but that's a bridge to cross.

What I find ridiculous is the Bulls starting Al and Boozer. That's just not going to work. And they can't trade Boozer so there's no option not to start them. So I'm not seeing the Bulls side of this.
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They could start Jefferson and Gibson and bring Booze off the bench and Tommy is the guy with the balls to do it.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
We'd have a lot of defense but absolutely no offense (unless Favors has a BIG year next year).

IMO I'd rather let Al expire and see where things stand.. Noah certainly isn't cheap.
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No offense? Check out Millsap, Noah and Favors' efficiency and points scored last year. Plenty considering Favors would then get more shots, as would some of our wings.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
With this trade I could see the jazz being a lot like the last pistons team to win a championship. It's not like Sheed and Ben were a great offensive duo or anything. Infact Favors and Noah might be a better combo
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To go a step further, it's not like any of them were great offensive players. Not Prince. Not Hamilton. Not Billups. They were solid and sort of unique but hardly great. And I see no reason Hayward can't become our Hamilton. So to speak.
 
illyasova said:
Well, 14 mil per a year for Noah is just atrocious. I do not remember any name gets injured oftenly more than him. Bulls wanna reorganized as it's been told. They lost all their bench mob (Asik, Watson, Brewer, Korver) and Rose is done till the allstar match. So it is logical for them to send Noah and have incredible cap space for the next year after amnestied Boozer. How bout for the jazz? You fill the C with Noah (Energy guy, good rebounder, good help defender, really good assist guy for a big but no offensive game, no post up or midrange game) So, no way they can be good with Favors and he will kill the improvement of Kanter. The advantage is he can play some PF too with Kanter but at this time what will Favors do? For me letting Al go after this season is more and more logical and useful for the team.
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It's not 14M per year. It's 12M per. Big difference. And while I agree he's overpaid, I think he'd bring exactly what we need. A defensive 5 to help out Favors who wants to play the 4, scrappiness, selflessness. Dude wins be example. And to say he's always hurt is a little hyperbole. He played every game but two last season. Before that, it was definitely worse but still, he's played 69.2 games a year on average. Not God awful. In brief, it's risky financially, but I'd pull the trigger on this.
 
$12 million or $14 million is still two much money. It is not a BIG difference. Beside the fact his contract is for four years. I have watch Noah and he is NOT a great defensive player. He plays hard but again his production doesn't match his contract. Do you seriously think that Kanter can't give us 10/10?
 
I'm starting to not like this trade after all, mainly because of the length of his contract and the fact that, yes, Kanter could likely give us something very similar to Noah's production right now. I'd look for something better, or just let Al expire and see what we can get in free agency.
 
the jazz really need a killah, so it's hard to dismiss this trade. While Noah isn't a great offensive player, he plays smart.

Plus, I'd love to see this team actually commit to playing defense. With Noah and Favors locking it up down low, you can let Paul play some minutes at 3 (giving us a great mismatch on the offensive end), maybe 7-10, which would give Kanter enough burn in year2.

The contract isn't nice, but we need a killah. period.
 
sounds like everybody is either -- 1) for this trade, but lukewarmly enough that they could be talked out of it, or 2) against this trade, but lukewarmly enough that they could be talked into it.

the particulars of THIS trade aside, i'm at least encourage. even if this reporter completely got the facts wrong, i believe in the smoke/fire correlation enough that i'm going to at least take this as a sign that our FO is not as "done" as i thought they were with the 2012-13 roster. yay.
 
theNBAnerd said:
... i believe in the smoke/fire correlation enough that i'm going to at least take this as a sign that our FO is not as "done" as i thought they were with the 2012-13 roster. yay.
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I'm praying and burning sage as we speak.
 
I don't believe for a second that this rumor has any legitimacy.

But if it did, after doing a little bit of research, I'd jump at it. I think describing Noah as a 10/10 player just completely under-describes Noah's value to a team (for example, consistently very high WP 48 ratings, among all kinds of on-the-court intangibles).

The contract is not anything more than the Jazz might be tempted to re-sign Jefferson at (11+, 11+, 12+, 13+). My only worry is injuries (AK 2.0?), though he did play most games last season.
 
idiot said:
I don't believe for a second that this rumor has any legitimacy.

But if it did, after doing a little bit of research, I'd jump at it. I think describing Noah as a 10/10 player just completely under-describes Noah's value to a team (for example, consistently very high WP 48 ratings, among all kinds of on-the-court intangibles).

The contract is not anything more than the Jazz might be tempted to re-sign Jefferson at (11+, 11+, 12+, 13+). My only worry is injuries (AK 2.0?), though he did play most games last season.
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Exactly.

Just look at the wins the Bulls have been putting up. Noah is only 10/10. So how do they win so much?. It isn't all Rose, and it sure isn't Boozer, Korver, or Brewer. They still win without Rose too. I think that has a lot to do with Noah. I love the way he plays. I'd make the trade. It makes great sense basketball wise. The only hang up is the contract and how it plays into signing our guys down the road
 
This makes a lot of sense basketball wise for the Jazz and business wise for the Bulls, but not the other way around. If this trade happened, it would be fun reading all of the "we need to dump Noah's contract" posts in a couple of years. I am in favor of trading Jefferson, but not if it means tying up a large chunk of salary in Noah. I'd much rather get a TPE or a short contract for him. Favors and Hayward will be up for new contracts soon and the Jazz don't need Noah eating up a lot of salary.
 
How does this make basketball sense? Are you saying Noah is a better player than AJ? It makes no sense at all both financially or basketball wise.
 
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