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This is stuff I scroll right past under any normal circumstance, but in the vacuum that is COVID-19 sports, and the desperation BR must be feeling, they posted the following silly *** article:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2886487-br-nba-staff-8-blockbuster-trades-to-create-new-big-3s

Their first trade suggestion is to send Gobert to Brooklyn for an initial offer of Gobert and O’Neale for Spencer Dinwiddie, Jarret Allen, and DeAndre Jordan.

The Brooklyn Nets won't want to waste time once Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant can finally share the floor. They could look to capitalize on the reported tension between Utah Jazz stars Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell by making an offer featuring Spencer Dinwiddie, Caris LeVert and Jarrett Allen.

DeAndre Jordan would need to be included to make any deal work for Gobert, who'd give Brooklyn the NBA's premier rim protector to anchor its defense behind Irving and Durant.

The Nets' first offer should start with just Dinwiddie, Allen and Jordan for Gobert and Royce O'Neale, a potentially helpful role player. The Jazz declining could mean the Nets must add LeVert with Utah throwing in Ed Davis.

The Jazz would add the 21-year-old Allen to replace Gobert in the middle, while Dinwiddie and LeVert would give the lineup a pair of versatile scorers and playmakers to take pressure off Mitchell.

Trading for Gobert would mean the Nets are going all-in on a Big Three that includes two elite offensive players and a two-time Defensive Player of the Year, a trio they'd surround with Joe Harris (assuming he's re-signed as a free agent this offseason), Taurean Prince, Nicolas Claxton, Rodions Kurucs and Dzanan Musa, plus O'Neale and Davis.

Jhe Jazz would add the 21-year-old Allen to replace Gobert in the middle, while Dinwiddie and LeVert would give the lineup a pair of versatile scorers and playmakers to take pressure off Mitchell.
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Though laughable, it did get me thinking. Though there have been a number of Jazz players I’ve liked that I wanted to see succeed when they left, this **** show of this situation would have me actively pulling for Gobert to get a chip. Thinking Durant and Kyrie are tools wouldn’t even matter. I’d be very satisfied with a Gobert title.

The second trade is Gobert for Hayward.

The Utah Jazz were the epicenter of the NBA shutdown last month, leading to tensions between stars Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert (although Gobert, the first NBA player diagnosed with COVID-19, recently downplayed the notion). If the Jazz believe their relationship is irreparably damaged, the Boston Celtics may be able to take advantage.

Boston already has a talented core built around Kemba Walker and Jayson Tatum with Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart and Gordon Hayward as supporting pieces, but the Celtics lack size. Gobert would change the team's complexion immediately.

Hayward is in the last year of his contract but has a player option to extend it through 2020-21 at $34.2 million. Given the NBA's economic uncertainty, he may be more likely to pick up that option and either seek an extension or a new contract as a free agent in 2021.

The Celtics are already stocked on the wing and may not be willing to reward Hayward with another deal. Gobert, though, would give Boston a Big Three and then some. Hayward, who started his career as a star with the Jazz, would return home to a team likely willing to invest in his future.

Utah would need to include one more player to make the salaries match—perhaps Nigel Williams-Goss or even Ed Davis (although he may serve a greater purpose for the Jazz with Gobert out). Boston has draft considerations to send if need be with three first-rounders (Milwaukee Bucks, Memphis Grizzlies and their own) in the upcoming draft.
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Though this has even more [Bolerism] lol’ability [/Bolerism], it would be equally satisfying to see Boston win a chip.
 
**** off. We have no desire to help the Nets complete a Big 3 with Gobert. And there's no way the Jazz should trade Gobert for spare parts.

If Gobert and Mitchell have a difficult time getting along, wait til Gobert sees how mercurial Kyrie and KD are. And fwiw, Mitchell is younger, more athletic and at least as good as Kyrie.

How about we offer Bogdanovic, Ingles, Royce and a pick for KD...
 
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Gobert to Brooklyn is a very smart move for Brooklyn. He would fit next to KD and Kyrie so well. If we privately find out Gobert is gonna demand the supermax in 2021, it would be wise by our FO to milk Brooklyn for everything they would be willing to pay for Gobert.

No way I want D'Andre Jordan and no way his buddies KD and Kyrie want him gone. Dinwiddie, LeVert, Allen, Musa and picks should all be considered. If we could get three of those players plus a 1st, we gotta take it if we know Gobert is expecting stupid money in summer 2021. We can't afford to overpay him or lose him for nothing.

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Just clarity:

I’m not advocating any of these trades, nor would I even find the discussion mildly amusing in any other circumstances.
 
@White Chocolate

You wouldn’t at least be somewhat intrigued by Mitchell for Dinwiddie LeVert and a first. Not saying I’d do that but it would give me pause to think. Maybe throw in Harris as well.

Gobert
Bogey
Ingles Harris
LeVert
Dinwiddie

we get better defensively a little longer add a valuable player to the bench. I think Dinwiddie and LeVert make up nicely for the lost offense in Mitchell plus gain an asset in a first round pick. I’m sure a third team would need to be added to make this work. I’ve always been a big believer in Dinwiddie and love LeVert’s potential.
 
This just popped into my head but the Wiz might be a good trade partner for Mitchell if the jazz were forced to trade him.

Trade Mitchell and Conley’s expiring deal and whatever other small parts we have to for Wall who I think they want to unload, Rui and Troy brown and two firsts. I’m not a trade expert, but. If I’m right, the wiz don’t want Wall, which is why we might get the two future firsts. You add an up and coming wing that can play the 4 and a future replacement for Ingles. Less shooting but better athlete with ball skills in Troy Brown. Wall might be a better fit next to Gobert being a more defined passer and pg. has averaged 8-10 assists over the years, and at 6-4 probably a better finisher.

If this is a route the jazz would consider, they need to do their due diligence as far as Wall’s injury history is concerned, whether there will be a steep decline or not in the coming year.

thoughts? I can take it.

the reason I’m so high on trading Mitchell over Gobert is for a couple reasons.

1. We can probably get more for Mitchell in a trade.

2. If we trade Gobert (our best and franchise player) we will not only get less, but we will lose our identity. Gobert is who wins us games. It would be way easier to replace what Mitchell gives the jazz than what Gobert gives. I don’t see how people don’t understand this. I also IMO don’t think money is as important to him than winning. I think he has that kind of Stockton and Malone trait in him. Those two are probably the most under paid pro athletes of all time in any sport. IMO all the jazz need to do is sit down with Gobert and let him see how they want to build around him but need money to do it. I think he’d pick the option of signing a regular max over super max to build a team around him capable of contending.

IMO we could fall out of the playoffs if we lose Gobert, but not far enough out to draft a star. Provided the Nuggets wisely stop making dumb trades with the jazz.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
This just popped into my head but the Wiz might be a good trade partner for Mitchell if the jazz were forced to trade him.

Trade Mitchell and Conley’s expiring deal and whatever other small parts we have to for Wall who I think they want to unload, Rui and Troy brown and two firsts. I’m not a trade expert, but. If I’m right, the wiz don’t want Wall, which is why we might get the two future firsts. You add an up and coming wing that can play the 4 and a future replacement for Ingles. Less shooting but better athlete with ball skills in Troy Brown. Wall might be a better fit next to Gobert being a more defined passer and pg. has averaged 8-10 assists over the years, and at 6-4 probably a better finisher.

If this is a route the jazz would consider, they need to do their due diligence as far as Wall’s injury history is concerned, whether there will be a steep decline or not in the coming year.

thoughts? I can take it.

the reason I’m so high on trading Mitchell over Gobert is for a couple reasons.

1. We can probably get more for Mitchell in a trade.

2. If we trade Gobert (our best and franchise player) we will not only get less, but we will lose our identity. Gobert is who wins us games. It would be way easier to replace what Mitchell gives the jazz than what Gobert gives. I don’t see how people don’t understand this. I also IMO don’t think money is as important to him than winning. I think he has that kind of Stockton and Malone trait in him. Those two are probably the most under paid pro athletes of all time in any sport. IMO all the jazz need to do is sit down with Gobert and let him see how they want to build around him but need money to do it. I think he’d pick the option of signing a regular max over super max to build a team around him capable of contending.

IMO we could fall out of the playoffs if we lose Gobert, but not far enough out to draft a star. Provided the Nuggets wisely stop making dumb trades with the jazz.
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Didn’t mean for this post to be so long.

in short, jazz trade DM Conley and parts to the wiz for Wall, Troy Brown and Rui, and two firsts. We get longer more athletic, and more defense without losing offense

Gobert TB
Bogey. Rui.
Ingles. Rui
Brown. Clarkson (I hope)
Wall. Clarkson

I’m assuming O’Neale is part of the trade. A trade this big, he probably needs to be in it.
 
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