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Ty Corbin is the 9th most tenured coach in the NBA.

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How disgusting is that? As much as I have been unhappy with Ty Corbin I am very happy the Jazz aren't following the coaching carousel that is the NBA. The stability of the franchise is a great reason why I love the Jazz. Even if it means giving Ty Corbin time to figure it out.
 
I agree that the rapid changing of coaches is dumb. It is unfair to the coaches, players and fans. You need more than 1 season to really get things turned around unless you hit the superstar jackpot. Even then...
 
How disgusting is that? As much as I have been unhappy with Ty Corbin I am very happy the Jazz aren't following the coaching carousel that is the NBA. The stability of the franchise is a great reason why I love the Jazz. Even if it means giving Ty Corbin time to figure it out.

I Disagree Because He Can't Figure It Out. He's Gotten Progressively Worse Throughout His "Tenure" As Head Coach. He's Going To Ruin This Franchise Especially If We Draft A Point Guard.
 
I Disagree Because He Can't Figure It Out. He's Gotten Progressively Worse Throughout His "Tenure" As Head Coach. He's Going To Ruin This Franchise Especially If We Draft A Point Guard.

Ty has not gotten worse. He has gotten better, be honest at least. I am not a fan of him as coach but he is better than when he started.

Being unable to admit that there has been some improvement just comes off as blind hate.
 
Ty has not gotten worse. He has gotten better, be honest at least. I am not a fan of him as coach but he is better than when he started.

Being unable to admit that there has been some improvement just comes off as blind hate.

Exactly. He's gotten better, but the progression is slower than I'd like. The biggest problems I had with Ty relate to Al.
Hopefully with Al gone, we can really see what kind of a coach Ty is.
 
Ty has not gotten worse. He has gotten better, be honest at least. I am not a fan of him as coach but he is better than when he started.

Being unable to admit that there has been some improvement just comes off as blind hate.

I totally disagree. What has he improved upon???

Substitutions??? Nope if anything he got worse. Its a game of chess. He never worried about which players to play against who.

Offense? We never had an offense. Just throw it into Jefferson and watch, was the offense.

Defense??? Maybe he has but its hard to tell. The rotations on defense seemed pretty decent (except Jefferson). Things seemed a little better than.

Outside of that I would need something specific. I could of missed something but you would have to be blind to say that the offense improved or his substitutions improved.
 
His substitutions did get better. Latter in the year we began to see subtle changes in when and how he used players. For example: playing Favors over Millsap in end game scenarios when we needed D. Burks also began to see more burn as the season went on.

Is Ty a good coach. No, not yet. But you claimed he got worse. That is just silly.
 
I think last year is was hard to judge him. Him having half a team of free agents that are looking for new contracts and a fan base that just wants to see the young guys play. Top that with the pressure to make the playoffs.

That's a tough spot for a coach to be in but the end of the season collapse and missing the playoffs was really bad.
 
I have not read anything else in this thread except the title.

Corbin will not be the 9th most tenured coach after this season. More than likely he'll be looking for another job.
 
I have not read anything else in this thread except the title.

Corbin will not be the 9th most tenured coach after this season. More than likely he'll be looking for another job.

How? If the Jazz go into pretty much tank mode next season there will be no expectations....therefore no failure..
 
His substitutions did get better. Latter in the year we began to see subtle changes in when and how he used players. For example: playing Favors over Millsap in end game scenarios when we needed D. Burks also began to see more burn as the season went on.

Is Ty a good coach. No, not yet. But you claimed he got worse. That is just silly.

If he was looking to improve defense he should of player Millsap over Jefferson when he wanted Favors to play. Burks started to play again when Mo Williams got injured. It wasn't a decision he made because he saw something. It took an injury to see that Burks was better than he thought.

I am not saying he didn't improve at all. I am saying that he actually regressed in terms of substitutions. Even at the end of the year he was playing Foye at SG and having him guard Kobe or players that Foye had no chance of guarding. He still never realized that. That is a huge problem. When you put one of your worst defenders on the team at the end of the game to guard one of the best scorers on the league. And do it multiple times and not even realize the mistake.....That is bad

If Corbin did not realize things like this that is getting worse. You cannot be at a stand still in life. You either get worse or better. If you don't improve and everyone else gets better than what happens to you? Its about contrast.

He still did not understand that Mo Williams was hurting the team. Same with Jefferson. He never saw that even at the end of the season.

After Kanter put him 20 and 20 games he went back to playing 10-15 minutes a game. Literally right after. He didn't even jump up his minutes. If anything he dropped his minutes.

There are so many things he did not improve on and actually kept doing the wrong things it was pathetic. That is getting worse. Digging a bigger hole that your standing in. He might of threw some dirt on there to fill the hole like playing Burks more after a injury or Favors at the end of the game. But he dug deeper into the mistakes and continued those more than the ones he corrected. That is getting worse. If it is not what is the definition or examples of a coach getting worse?
 
I think last year is was hard to judge him. Him having half a team of free agents that are looking for new contracts and a fan base that just wants to see the young guys play. Top that with the pressure to make the playoffs.

That's a tough spot for a coach to be in but the end of the season collapse and missing the playoffs was really bad.

If we care about signing our Core to contracts next summer and if we really want to tank. We will be signing more 1 year rental players.

And if your coach cannot take pressure why would we want him for the future in the playoffs?
 
How? If the Jazz go into pretty much tank mode next season there will be no expectations....therefore no failure..

And Corbin as a head coach will have missed the playoffs more with the Utah Jazz then all other Utah Jazz coaches combined. That's why.
 
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If he was looking to improve defense he should of player Millsap over Jefferson when he wanted Favors to play. Burks started to play again when Mo Williams got injured. It wasn't a decision he made because he saw something. It took an injury to see that Burks was better than he thought.

I am not saying he didn't improve at all. I am saying that he actually regressed in terms of substitutions. Even at the end of the year he was playing Foye at SG and having him guard Kobe or players that Foye had no chance of guarding. He still never realized that. That is a huge problem. When you put one of your worst defenders on the team at the end of the game to guard one of the best scorers on the league. And do it multiple times and not even realize the mistake.....That is bad

If Corbin did not realize things like this that is getting worse. You cannot be at a stand still in life. You either get worse or better. If you don't improve and everyone else gets better than what happens to you? Its about contrast.

He still did not understand that Mo Williams was hurting the team. Same with Jefferson. He never saw that even at the end of the season.

After Kanter put him 20 and 20 games he went back to playing 10-15 minutes a game. Literally right after. He didn't even jump up his minutes. If anything he dropped his minutes.

There are so many things he did not improve on and actually kept doing the wrong things it was pathetic. That is getting worse. Digging a bigger hole that your standing in. He might of threw some dirt on there to fill the hole like playing Burks more after a injury or Favors at the end of the game. But he dug deeper into the mistakes and continued those more than the ones he corrected. That is getting worse. If it is not what is the definition or examples of a coach getting worse?

You are missing the point. I am not calling Corbin a good coach. All I said is that he has improved and he has. This entier post is all about him not improving as fast as you want. Well guess what? Join the club. However that does not mean he has not improved at all. Let alone get worse as you initially claimed.
 
You are missing the point. I am not calling Corbin a good coach. All I said is that he has improved and he has. This entier post is all about him not improving as fast as you want. Well guess what? Join the club. However that does not mean he has not improved at all. Let alone get worse as you initially claimed.

Not initially. I still hold to that. He did get worse.

But please answer the question. If a coach continues to make mistakes and never corrects the majority of them is that not getting worse? We might be arguing over labels but if that is not getting worse what is the definition of a coach getting worse? What would Corbin have to do?
 
Meh. I dont think the team or fans would have any expectations for playoffs next year.

Whether they do or not, those be the facts. Let me put this another way. Technically Corbin has been the head coach at the end of 3 seasons. If the Jazz miss the playoffs next season then out of 4 years he will have made the playoffs once. That is no good for a franchise that is usually playing come late April.
 
Not initially. I still hold to that. He did get worse.

But please answer the question. If a coach continues to make mistakes and never corrects the majority of them is that not getting worse? We might be arguing over labels but if that is not getting worse what is the definition of a coach getting worse? What would Corbin have to do?

I would call that insanity.
 
Not initially. I still hold to that. He did get worse.

But please answer the question. If a coach continues to make mistakes and never corrects the majority of them is that not getting worse? We might be arguing over labels but if that is not getting worse what is the definition of a coach getting worse? What would Corbin have to do?

If a coach is making the same mistakes and not correcting them no that is not gatting worse. that is staying the same. Getting worse would him making those same mistakes and new ones. He tried new things thru the season and improved, still bad, in some areas. Ty does learn, just very, very slowly.
 
it's all about winning titles

can he get you one? no

it's a competition.. can he be the best? no

there always will be guys like pop who will outcoach corbin

greg just picked the wrong son
 
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