Utah Jazz Preseason Game #1 Sydney Kings at Utah Jazz Mon Oct 2, 7:00 pm

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Shelvin Wack 1st outing with the Magic:

15mins 0-4 5REB 2AST 2TO -10(game worst)


Jeff Withey:

12mins 0-5 (0-2 from 3...) 5REB 1STL 1TO +11


George Hill:

9mins 2-3 (1-2) 5AST +6


Trey Lyles:

DNP (because hes a crab)

Gordan Haywood - 45 trips to the corner, 53 close viewings of Kyrie chucking and ballhogging.

 

[Jazz4ever]

We'll know more next game. These were not NBA caliber athletes. DM led the team in +/- at +18

 

[fishonjazz]

My thoughts

Rubio: I thought he broke the paint a lot more in the scrimmage. I don't like to see him floating around the perimeter as much as penetrating. Need to get him into the paint to get the most of him. Still had terrific passes and nice rapport with Gobert.

Hood: Deadly. Keep doing what you're doin.

Ingles: Had a pretty average Ingles game. I thought he'd force things a bit more considering the opponent. I guess he won't change no matter what.

Favors: Didn't look much different than last season, sadly. I was hoping for more bounce and hustle. I think It's time to set my expectations down a bit.

Gobert: Wow. Can he keep up this level for a season or will it be too strenuous? If he can play this well every night we gon be gud.

Exum: Looked very similar to last season. I thought he looked aggressive which is a plus. Needs to keep that aggression up all game.

Mitchell: Looked quite good. Some terrific passes. Some nice shots. Stayed within himself. Maybe one heat check, but, other than that loved his game.

IsoJoe: Unflappable. You can set your clock by him. Nice to have a guy you can trust to play exactly the same way every night as a coach.

Jerebko: Thinking too much. Might get better with some practice with the team. But, now just second guessing every move. Even so, wasn't too bad.

Sefolosha: Decent. About what you can expect every night I imagine.

Neto: He is a great 3rd string PG. IF we need more than that I don't know he's up for the challenge.

Udoh: I thought he was terrible. Like a Diaw minus the dribbling, passing, or shooting.

Bolomboy: I didn't think he was going to make the roster, but, this game makes me think he will. Impactful.

Burks: Made a 3. Seemed solid. I want a little more sizzle out of him though.

Bradley: Looks a little meatier than the stuff I saw pre-draft. This is good, but, he still needs to get stronger.

Helluva summary tbh. On point

 

[fishonjazz]

Sportscenter's highlights of this game consisted of showing Perry Ellis scoring two baskets. The ****ing disrespect, guys.

Travesty that they didn't show the ingles to gobert alley oop. Imo it was about as impressive as anything I expect to see all season

 

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My biggest takeaway from this game is - Quin needs to change his system or this will NOT work vs NBA competition. Rubio needs the ball in his hands... almost all the time. Otherwise he's a huge liability on offense and the presence of both Gobert and Favors on the floor exacerbates the situation. We were running the exact same motion and ball reversals and handoffs and DHO into pnrs in the halfcourt like last year and I don't think this will help Rubio at all. The pace for the game was 86!!! This is against a team that is severely disadvantaged athletically vs an NBA team... and we still couldn't run.

If Rubio doesn't have the ball in his hands in what way is he better than Dante offensively? Dante's a better cutter, better finisher at the rim, very possibly better shooter.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

My biggest takeaway from this game is - Quin needs to change his system or this will NOT work vs NBA competition. Rubio needs the ball in his hands... almost all the time. Otherwise he's a huge liability on offense and the presence of both Gobert and Favors on the floor exacerbates the situation. We were running the exact same motion and ball reversals and handoffs and DHO into pnrs in the halfcourt like last year and I don't think this will help Rubio at all. The pace for the game was 86!!! This is against a team that is severely disadvantaged athletically vs an NBA team... and we still couldn't run.

If Rubio doesn't have the ball in his hands in what way is he better than Dante offensively? Dante's a better cutter, better finisher at the rim, very possibly better shooter.

Nah, I don't think so. I though they had a pretty good mix of Rubio on ball and others playmaking when he didn't. It's the first game of the season. Give it time. Rubio is way better than Dante and it's not even close.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

One of Quin's core beliefs is everyone needs to touch the ball and have a hand in playmaking. I wouldn't expect those aspects to change that much.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think Snyder might have to go super-small and play Burks at the 3 and Sefolosha at the 4. I'm not impressed at all by Jerebko.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Gordan Haywood - 45 trips to the corner, 53 close viewings of Kyrie chucking and ballhogging.

And 98 times we wished he had stayed in Utah.

 

[Flc]

A few thoughts, despite the fact I already agree with everything NAOS posted earlier.

--Greg Miller is ridiculous. Not Steve Balmer ridiculous, just Salt Lake ridiculous.
--Gobert is on fire. He played fantastic, seems like he's grown even more athletic, his hands are far improved, and he's playing with some odd mix of meanness and having something to prove. He's going to beast this year.
--I don't think Quin has quite yet figured out, or just hasn't implemented, really getting Rubio into the offense. Rubio has a lot of gifts (he's had a strong net positive on team offense numbers over his career despite his sub-par personal shooting) and it doesn't quite seem like the team is taking advantage of them yet.
--The pace - particularly in the first quarter - seemed much, much faster. Honestly, it's a smart way for the Jazz to play given Rubio, Exum, Mitchell, and Neto's speed.
--This year's crop of Jazz dancers are much hotter than last years'. Significantly. I liked the outfits too.
--Sefalosha impressed me. I thought he brought a maturity and stability to his game, both on offense and defense. Like Joe Johnson, he seems to be another anchor for us if things drift.

And some thoughts on Exum:
--This is technically the start of his third year, and point guard's typically experience a large development spurt in between years two and three.
--He is absolutely improved. His shot is better, his handling is better (still an issue given his height, but it's definitely improving - especially during drives), his finishing is much better (despite how totally weird it looks), and his decision making is much better.
--There were a couple of times I thought he was 'pressing' a bit. He also seems like, while he's put it together, he still isn't fully in control. And you want your point guard to be in control. That's going to be his next step.
--It's encouraging to see his skills, decision making, and savvy improving. Given his considerable athletic talents, we've just been waiting for his mind and skills to catch up. This appears to be happening.
--It might take another couple of years, but Dante is going to be - at minimum - a solid starter in this league.
--I'm not sure if he'll ever be considered a top five point guard in the league. Top ten I don't think is out of the question.

And some thoughts on Mitchell:

--This kid is the real deal. Sure, it's been summer league and a preseason game against a sub-NBA opponent, but I think this kid is a future star. I'm talking multiple All-Star appearances.
--His energy level is insane. He was everywhere tonight - particularly on defense - impossible not to notice. He works hard and he cares.
--He's incredibly poised and confident for a rookie. His vision is exceptional and he has a strong mental understanding of the game. His assist to Favors after the pick and roll by Dante was exceptional.
--His shooting form looks great and his shots went in.
--He had another amazing offensive move tonight where he spun in the lane and laid it in. It looked like a veteran move - that's what I mean by his savvy.
--I underestimated his athleticism. His leaping ability is, obviously, insane, but I was blown away by how quickly he got down the court on a fast break.

And to close:
--I've been feeling a bit down on the Jazz and not really anticipating the season following Hayward leaving. Maybe that makes me a bad fan, but it just seemed like such a long slog to get to the point we were at last year - looking forward to getting as many wins as possible... one year of that and then Hayward peaces out.
--I also worried that the Jazz were going to be stuck in that lower playoff/late lottery no-man's-land that we tried so hard to get out of during the Millsap/Jefferson/Corbin era. Even with lottery reform, that didn't seem that appealing.
--Mitchell has changed that for me substantially. I think, two to three years from now, he and Gobert are two franchise pillars. As for the third? Maybe Hood or Exum, depending on their development. Maybe a bigger small forward or stretch-4 we're able to pick up via trade or free agency. But I'm optimistic about our future.
--Rudy Goberts do not grow on trees. But neither do Donovan Mitchells.

--Going to be a fun season.

 

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One of Quin's core beliefs is everyone needs to touch the ball and have a hand in playmaking. I wouldn't expect those aspects to change that much.

I know that and I don't fault him for that. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think Rubio works in this type of system. He can be a very good PG, but he needs the ball in his hands to have the best impact possible.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I thought guys looked good tonight. Long term I think Favs is better suited on a team that doesn't have Rudy. Although he looked to be moving better he just doesn't get the opportunity to dive to the rim as much as he needs to.

Be patient with Ricky... Dante looked really confident and comfortable. Once DM relaxed he was really good on offense... made some rooki mistakes on defense and likely spends a lot of the season in foul trouble. Jonas didn't even look at the rim... I'm a little concerned but need to give the guy time.

AB looked spry and I think this is the real return of AB... somehow he will get some run.

 

[JazzForLifee]

want to see exum mitchell burks tabo favors line up


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[Et tu Brute]

Nah, I don't think so. I though they had a pretty good mix of Rubio on ball and others playmaking when he didn't. It's the first game of the season. Give it time. Rubio is way better than Dante and it's not even close.

At what though?
Passing? Ok. But passing is passing. Dante just needs to limit TOs, he can initiate and swing the ball to open players. There is already too much passing on this team.

He is at this stage still a better defensive pg, but is more of a liability when called upon to switch (not that he is tiny though).

He is a better FT shooter.

He is not a better finisher at the rim.

He can't get to the rim whenever he wants.

Rubio might be pulled in late game situations (not for Dante). Spain did it a bunch of times at the Olympics.

Also, what does he offer on offense when the ball isn't in his hands?

 

[Douchebag K]

No matter who he is going against, that speed and length is legit and should at a minimum make him serviceable

Sounds like your wife's assessment of your honeymoon ??

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Hood played very under control and scored efficiently. He didn't get to the line, but he did everything else. If I were the Jazz, I'd try to extend him. He could put up 17 ppg pretty easily on slightly above-average efficiency. Some teams are going to come after him. He may not be a star, but he's a solid scoring wing.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Rubio is an exceptionally good ball mover and distributor. He gets the Jazz in their offense right away, almost always makes the right read and gets the ball moving. The Jazz need someone to take that floor leadership role. No one else on the team handles, passes and creates looks like he does. He's the straw that stirs the drink. He'll get players in a rhythm.

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

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LMAO

LOAP just cemented himself as a Jazzfanz legend.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Sportscenter's highlights of this game consisted of showing Perry Ellis scoring two baskets. The ****ing disrespect, guys.

Rudy Gobert had a double-clutch finger roll that hasn't made anyone's highlights. He looked like freaking George Gervin.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Exum one of the players were I have no idea if it's just him playing against non-athletes and no size or he actually played well.

Exum is good as a back-up PG in a Leandro Barbosa sort of way. He passes better than Barbosa though, who had tunnel vision. Plus Exum can play in a two-guard front and defend some wings. I think he fits. He keeps the length, energy and defense going with the second unit.