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Utah Jazz vs Washington Wizards - Monday January 17th, 2011

I'm sorry but we're at the IGS part of the season where Sloan needs to develop some of these young guys to see what we have for both now and the future, and also because half of the other guys don't deserve PT. Play Hayward more. Play Evans more. They bring energy, hustle and some brains.

I'd love to see us start Deron-Hayward-AK-Millsap and Elson. Screw Jefferson. Send a message. And while AK leaves a lot to be desired, I can't rationalize starting Evans or Miles over him. Off the bench, Evans and Fes should see more time while Jefferson and Bell should see time only if they're productive AND busting their ***.
 
....it sounded like Deron accussed Big Al of being lazy and not smart enough to learn the plays. Did anyone catch what Deron actually said?

...he said: "Big Al's never been much on thinkin....spent most of his time chasing women and drinkin!"
 
I'm sorry but we're at the IGS part of the season where Sloan needs to develop some of these young guys to see what we have for both now and the future, and also because half of the other guys don't deserve PT. Play Hayward more. Play Evans more. They bring energy, hustle and some brains.

I'd love to see us start Deron-Hayward-AK-Millsap and Elson. Screw Jefferson. Send a message. And while AK leaves a lot to be desired, I can't rationalize starting Evans or Miles over him. Off the bench, Evans and Fes should see more time while Jefferson and Bell should see time only if they're productive AND busting their ***.

Would not go as far as staring Elson. Other than an occasional mid range jumper complete nonfactor on offense. rather start memo or fes.
 
I only caught a few minutes of the post game show on 1320, but it sounded like Deron accussed Big Al of being lazy and not smart enough to learn the plays. Did anyone catch what Deron actually said?

“We don’t run hard. We don’t run through. We don’t execute. We don’t screen. We don’t know the plays,” Williams said.

Sounds a lot like he could be talking about Jefferson. I think he mainly wants to sit there and just get the ball thrown to him in the post. That is one of the big things about Elson and Fes. They will at least set the screens. (not saying they should play more than Jefferson though). Also got killed on the boards again. That i think is a lot on Millsap in this one.
 
“We don’t run hard. We don’t run through. We don’t execute. We don’t screen. We don’t know the plays,” Williams said.
"We don't run hard."
Mainly Jefferson and Bell.

"We don’t run through."
I think he's talking more about Raja Bell, possibly AK, but I think mostly Bell. The Jazz always run their wings through rather than to the corners. When they come through Deron can immediately throw them the ball on the wing and we can proceed with our UCLA set or some variation of it. Too often Bell runs to the 3pt line and stops. Bell is a 1-dimensional player on offense - a spot-up shooter and nothing more - and that can really hurt our offense.

"We don’t execute."
I think Deron's just frustrated, 3 times in Washington I saw him make the same bounce pass that would be an easy layup for Boozer but Jefferson pulled up from 10-feet on the wing and Millsap missed a couple of cheapies after slipping the screen. I hate to keep blaming Al when he really competed hard and had a good game, but there was another play in the 2nd-half when Deron crossed someone in transition, penetrated and literally handed the ball to Al - placed it right in his chest - and Al missed the layup (he did get his own rebound and got fouled - making 1 of the 2 FT's) but it's things like that where this team just doesn't have the same offensive talent they've had in years' past.
 
Can we please stop losing to these crappy teams?

All of last year, we had 10 losses against teams who were not in the playoffs. Houston twice, Minny twice, Sacramento twice, New Orleans, Memphis, Indiana, and the Clippers. Some of those were hardly bad; Houston was 42-40 on the year, Memphis was 40-42 and played well. So far this season, exactly half way through the season, we have four losses against teams who as of now would not be in the playoffs. The Wiz, Golden State, Memphis and Phoenix.

Not so bad I guess but we're still just on pace for 54 wins.
 
Can we please stop losing to these crappy teams?

All of last year, we had 10 losses against teams who were not in the playoffs. Houston twice, Minny twice, Sacramento twice, New Orleans, Memphis, Indiana, and the Clippers. Some of those were hardly bad; Houston was 42-40 on the year, Memphis was 40-42 and played well. So far this season, exactly half way through the season, we have four losses against teams who as of now would not be in the playoffs. The Wiz, Golden State, Memphis and Phoenix.

Not so bad I guess but we're still just on pace for 54 wins.
Definitely better so far this season and other then SA no team in the west hasn't had their moments heck LA has had a few of them even at home this year.
 
I mean we were due for this - we almost lost to Charlotte and Minny on the road if not for miracle last second comebacks, this time it just didn't happen. I disagree with going to Sap for the key shot down the stretch.
 
I mean we were due for this - we almost lost to Charlotte and Minny on the road if not for miracle last second comebacks, this time it just didn't happen. I disagree with going to Sap for the key shot down the stretch.
With how he played in that game I understand your point but with how he's played in the MIA and HOU game I can also understand it, with as hot as DWill was from 3pt land I am a little surprised he didn't take the shot.
 
I don't know how Williams can be upset with Big AL after this game.He is the only other player that showed up.

Easy, he doesn't set screens, and when he does, they aren't good. Deron was spoiled with that from Boozer, not to mention Boozer was a much superior finisher.

But Jefferson gets more blocks, so I guess that's the most important thing...
 
Easy, he doesn't set screens, and when he does, they aren't good. Deron was spoiled with that from Boozer, not to mention Boozer was a much superior finisher.

But Jefferson gets more blocks, so I guess that's the most important thing...

And he's actually on the court.

Boozer doesn't contribute as long as he's in a suit behind the bench, does he?
 
Honest question, Sloanfeld - what do you think Utah's record would be if Boozer had been Utah's starting PF this season?

I'm going to guess it's not dramatically different than this year's. In fact, I'd say there is a far better chance it's worse due to the odds of him missing more than five games with an injury.

No where in Boozer's career with the Jazz did he show he was capable of making them a better team than what we currently have on the court right now.

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Easy, he doesn't set screens, and when he does, they aren't good. Deron was spoiled with that from Boozer, not to mention Boozer was a much superior finisher.

But Jefferson gets more blocks, so I guess that's the most important thing...

Well how does Millsap do with screens? Because we have replaced Boozer with Millsap. Jefferson is the 5.
 
“We don’t run hard. We don’t run through. We don’t execute. We don’t screen. We don’t know the plays,” Williams said.

Sounds a lot like he could be talking about Jefferson. I think he mainly wants to sit there and just get the ball thrown to him in the post...

sounds like what Millsap said as well

JJ: Playing with Al Jefferson now in the frontcourt. Talk about that dynamic, how it can make you a better team and how that is coming along?

Paul: It's coming along. We still got a lot to work on. He still has a lot to learn in this offense. As of now we're progressing, maybe at the rate we didn't expect at the beginning of the season but it's coming along. Like I said, me and him is a great tandem, you know, we read each other well and it's going to help us out in the long run.

https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?3966-A-Conversation-with-Paul-Millsap&p=96820#post96820
 
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