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Very questionable officiating tonight.

I assume you did not watch the game and are looking at the Box score. Based on your crazy assessment. Jefferson played good defense on Griffin when he guarded him unlike Milsap. He also protected the rim on help defense unlike Jefferson.

I watched the game.
blake is just a better offensive player.

sometimes when trying your hardest hustle and play D
the other player is just better at offense than you are at D.
 
We all know that the league loves to screw us over in favor of a team like the Clippers. I mean, just look at how many times the Clippers have been in the playoffs and the Finals compared to us.....

The Magic beat the Lakers the other night. Was the league trying to promote Glen Baby Davis over Kobe and Dwight?

I just want to get on the same page as some of you. Orlando is a bigger market than Los Angeles, right?

Stupid Stern and his refs!

Well, who knows the involvement of the top in the day to day affairs of the NBA game action? However, it was a nice F-you Dwight for what you did to all of us, your teammates, your coach, and your city. So it did make a nice story: old team comes into Dwight's new shiny arena with the movie stars looking on and unite together all the while employing the Hack-a-Dwight as he shoots horrendously from the stripe and essentially prevents the Lakers from running any offense. If there is involvement, it is certainly more nuanced than this caveman like good/bad big/small dichotomy you're suggesting.
 
Well, who knows the involvement of the top in the day to day affairs of the NBA game action? However, it was a nice F-you Dwight for what you did to all of us, your teammates, your coach, and your city. So it did make a nice story: old team comes into Dwight's new shiny arena with the movie stars looking on and unite together all the while employing the Hack-a-Dwight as he shoots horrendously from the stripe and essentially prevents the Lakers from running any offense. If there is involvement, it is certainly more nuanced than this caveman like good/bad big/small dichotomy you're suggesting.

Oh. Ok. So it's a story huh?

So why would the NBA let the Nets lose against Miami on Saturday? Wouldn't a better story be to have the upstart Nets, with a destroyed city, take out the defending champs? Wouldn't ratings increase if the Heat struggled?

The Bucks beat the Celtics on Saturday too. Why would the NBA want to see the Celtics lose?

Just admit it, there isn't a conspiracy. We were outplayed. Plain and simple. Sure, there were a few bad calls. But there were bad calls when we played Houston and OKC. There will be bad calls on Wednesday and Friday. There are always bad calls.

The Clippers are a better team, better coached, and made plays. We're too soft, our players either aren't played or don't make plays, and our coach doesn't do anything to help us win.

Bitching about the officiating is seriously the most pathetic thing fans can do. It's thee lowest form of communication. Just stop. We lost because of our players and coaches, not because of the refs and Stern's grand conspiracy.
 
I watched the game.
blake is just a better offensive player.

sometimes when trying your hardest hustle and play D
the other player is just better at offense than you are at D.

Point proven that you did not watch the game. He let him have open dunks and open layups, that is not being a better offensive player. Being a better player is when you make contested shots and are working hard and scoring. Even Harpring said that was the easiest points Griffin has ever gotten in a game.

Way to prove you either did not watch the game or have no ability to look at this game objectively.
 
Jefferson can't defend the pick and roll very well. And when he's left with guarding Chris Paul forget about it. But that's true for about 28 other teams out there. Millsap's rotation wasn't exactly great either. But on offense he was pretty good. The only problem he has on offense is the FT's. He needs to get more FT's. And that was the issue tonight. He was 8-17. That's not great but it isn't crappy either. He needs to get a move where he goes TO the basket instead of away from it. He is so good at creating space for himself that he rarelly gets fouled. And he has to find away around that. But he was dunking the ball, blocking shots and passing the ball. All things ppl said he couldn't or wouldn't do.

He wasn't the problem.
 
has anyone been called for that new flop rule yet?

this I got from wiki. you probably are aware of it:

On November 21, 2012, Brooklyn Nets forward Reggie Evans became the first NBA player to be fined for flopping. After having been warned for a previous offense, the NBA league office identified an instance of flopping on Evans in the Nets' loss to the Los Angeles Lakers on November 20, 2012. Evans was fined $5,000.

they are not too strict on applying the rule for everyone.


nevertheless, they should call more flops than those kind of technicals:


[video=youtube_share;K5JvlPF1cJc]https://youtu.be/K5JvlPF1cJc
 
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Very Questionable Officiating?

Jazz were playing a team from LA, the team from LA is supposed to make the playoffs, the team from LA is full of 'stars'. David Stern picks the officiating crews for every game. I think the outcome was exactly as the NBA wanted.

Nobody believes this is a real competiton do they? Remember Disney, with its predictable plots and princeses, owns NBA partners ABC & ESPN. It helps if you can think of the NBA not as a competition, but more of a live action theatre. Chauncey clearly understands its all an act. Just relax and be entertained.
 
Oh. Ok. So it's a story huh?

So why would the NBA let the Nets lose against Miami on Saturday? Wouldn't a better story be to have the upstart Nets, with a destroyed city, take out the defending champs? Wouldn't ratings increase if the Heat struggled?

The Bucks beat the Celtics on Saturday too. Why would the NBA want to see the Celtics lose?

Just admit it, there isn't a conspiracy. We were outplayed. Plain and simple. Sure, there were a few bad calls. But there were bad calls when we played Houston and OKC. There will be bad calls on Wednesday and Friday. There are always bad calls.

The Clippers are a better team, better coached, and made plays. We're too soft, our players either aren't played or don't make plays, and our coach doesn't do anything to help us win.

Bitching about the officiating is seriously the most pathetic thing fans can do. It's thee lowest form of communication. Just stop. We lost because of our players and coaches, not because of the refs and Stern's grand conspiracy.

You've nailed it again! You really have you're finger on the pulse of humanity. Pleasure, pleasure!
 
Point proven that you did not watch the game. He let him have open dunks and open layups, that is not being a better offensive player. Being a better player is when you make contested shots and are working hard and scoring. Even Harpring said that was the easiest points Griffin has ever gotten in a game.

Way to prove you either did not watch the game or have no ability to look at this game objectively.

When someone is so much bigger, stronger, faster, quicker, more athletic, more skilled ........ its a tough match up to say the least. Not saying Al is a great defender but I think JF expectations are a little too high when taking Al's athletic ability into account.
 
Bitching about the officiating is seriously the most pathetic thing fans can do. It's thee lowest form of communication. Just stop. We lost because of our players and coaches, not because of the refs and Stern's grand conspiracy.

I agree that last night was no evidence of some conspiracy against Utah. What we saw was an aging official who made some really stupid calls, an official who likes to get all dramatic and be part of the show, and who seems to enjoy getting fans riled up. It was pretty crappy officiating, but there are always bad calls in every game. Games can hinge on momentum-changing calls, and that three-pointer foul was a def. boon for the Clippers, but Utah shouldn't have allowed them to be so close to begin with.
 
It was bad officiating, but we didn't lose because of it. We lost because of mistakes and they upped the intensity in the end of the game, we didn't match it. And the fact that Kanter was playing well and decided to go with Al and Millsap thought at this time Ty should've gone with Al and Kanter with Sap at sf. With Hayward and Mo in the backcourt, don't think Millsap would've had too much trouble guarding Butler.

As far as the refs go I do remember thinking what ever happened to home court advantage, and thinking shouldn't we be getting some of these calls, but sometimes the aggressors get the most calls and late in the game the Clippers played with more energy at the end of the game.
 
Yes because the other big men were shutting down the paint defensively except for Jefferson. :rolleyes:

He got beat on the pick and roll late. He did play much better man defense than Milsap. He tried to contest shots and had a couple awesome blocks. He will never be able to man up CP3 from the 3 pt line. Help defense needs to come over and it didnt.

CP3 makes Duncan look like a scrub in the pick and roll. I certainly think it would have helped having Favors but I don't put all the blame on AJ considering how lousy our guards defense is most of the time.

As far as the refs go, it was Bavetta. Are Jazz fans still surprised when he screws the Jazz. I really am looking to see if Billups gets at least a warning because his flop was all NBA.
 
I felt one of the turning points was Al going down the lane, and instead of going strong all the way to the hoop he pulled up and tried that stupid push shot that was blocked.
 
If the league is truly trying to get rid of flopping then they need to fine Billups considering how obvious it was and how it affected the game.
 
You've nailed it again! You really have you're finger on the pulse of humanity. Pleasure, pleasure!

this xenophobic status quo lover poster is right about something. no loss can be blamed on the refs, you win or you lose. but, you have every right to emphasize every single obvious mistake (or false calls on purpose) and question them. just shutting up about it also looks deliberate. refs were clearly a factor last night. but the jazz had the talent to overcome it. they could not.
 
Since I was at the game and didn't get the benefit of replay, can someone tell me if Foye got the shot off in time at the end of the game. The ref not named Bavetta or Mauer was waving it off before it missed but it looked like he got the shot off to me.
 
Since I was at the game and didn't get the benefit of replay, can someone tell me if Foye got the shot off in time at the end of the game. The ref not named Bavetta or Mauer was waving it off before it missed but it looked like he got the shot off to me.

No he didn't. It really wasn't even that close.
 
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