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"Complaining" aside, boards like these also thrive on controversy and conflict. Factions even form, and groups sharing like views start to kinda "collectively" fight the opposition.

Take a simple issue, Sloan as coach, for example. The opinions about Sloan's methods, effectiveness, and desirability as a coach run the entire gamut. Many are generally satisfied with Sloan, while having some complaints about him or his "style." Others are dissatisfied, but don't actively try to advocate that he should be fired, or otherwise make repeated attempts to attack his faults, as they see them. Those people are kinda "in the middle" and it's not an issue that concerns them much, really.

Others are not "in the middle" and have very strong opinions that Sloan either is, or is not, a good coach for the Jazz. The "extremists" tend to be more committed to their views and more likely to espouse and articulate their opinion on the matter. In is in fact the "extremists" who generally propel the continuation of most threads. Without them, a few mild opinions would be expressed, and then the thread would quickly die.

Many who are NOT extremists (as I have labelled them) are nonetheless entertained by the spectacle of the extremists on both sides doing "battle." For them, it makes the board more "interesting," even if they don't care to personally get involved in debating the conflicting opinions.

At the very extremes, you find those who get those who display a pronounced "hatred" for their opponents. They come to "hate" a person or persons merely because he/they support(s) (or do/ does not support) Sloan, for example. Very often I have seen their "hate" turn into little more than incessant personal attacks on those who disagree with them. Again, for the average message board poster, this merely adds to the overall entertainment value of the board.

Some of those tend to "favor" one view, or another, but, not caring to "debate" it, find expression in acting as a "cheerleader." They often come into a thread without knowing, or even in the least bit caring, what the thread is about. They don't even care to know what the purported "discussion" is about. They are simply there to support their favorite "team" whatever the topic is. In order to do so, they frequently jump in with a post that, in effect, just says: "You're right, homey! You tell him!," and nothing more. Once again, it keeps them interested, and gives them something to do, even if they don't care to discuss anything.

You need to get laid bro. You take this **** WAY to seriously. It's quite horrifying. I feel bad for you, really.
 
You need to get laid bro. You take this **** WAY to seriously. I feel bad for you, really.

Heh, thanks for your typical comment, OD. It doesn't make any difference what you say or do here. Whatever it is, someone would do it differently, and want to say so. If I joke, many will complain (or "advise me") that I shouldn't joke around. If I make a serious, substantive comment on a topic that relates to the board, some one else will tell me the whole board should be treated as a frivolous joke (a sentiment I often share, by the way).

And, again, it's not "just me." It's EVERYBODY. Anybody who takes a position that is anything other than something extremely meaningless will get the same kinda responses whoever they are, or whatever they say. Even then, they are very likely to draw comments about how "meaningless" their comment is.

It's what Jazzfanz is about, I tellya!
 
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Great. Nice analysis of the board. Your point? If you think the board should be treated mostly as a joke, and you get ridiculed for it, why do you care? It shouldn't bother you, yet it obviously does, unless your 10 hours worth of whine posts was just for **** and giggles. You make post after post analyzing and bitching about the board. Who the **** cares? What are you trying to prove? Are you just bored? Is this another attempt to get a rise out of people? Have I fallen victim?

Once again, you do take this too seriously, no matter your position or how me typing this feeds into your "argument" or whatever you're trying to do here. The internet is serious business.
 
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If you think the board should be treated mostly as a joke, and you get ridiculed for it, why do you care? It shouldn't bother you...

Heh, again, so typical.

1. Why do you care if I care? Why do you repeatedly advise me that I "shouldn't" care. Is this important to you?

2. Assuming I like joking around here, then I might have some interest in keeping that source of self-amusement open. If I'm on the verge of being banned, then it is of a little more interest to me why those with the "power" to ban me feel compelled to do so. I don't care if you want to go out and shoot your dog. I would care a little more if you were trying to shoot me.
 
How about you read the rest of my post.

me typing this feeds into your "argument" or whatever you're trying to do here. The internet is serious business.

I knew what I was doing when typing that. And I guess I knew exactly how you'd respond.

hehe, so typical

Shame on me.
 
How about you read the rest of my post.



hehe, so typical

Heh, I don't recall the "rest of your post" (as you have now quoted it) being there the first time, but it's irrelevant, either way. If I read "the rest" does it add something to your position? Does it even address the question I asked you? Of course not. You don't have to answer the question, but feel free to, if ya want, eh?
 
Yeah, sorry about that. I usually post what I got and make edits after just to get it out.

OMG, don't analyze this please! Did I just make a blunder in typing this? Did I get caught in your intellectual web again?!?!? <--me being a victim!
 
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Great. Nice analysis of the board. Your point?... What are you trying to prove? Are you just bored? Is this another attempt to get a rise out of people?

I assume you have no more you want to say, OD, but I will give you the courtesy of trying to address some of the questions you asked that I didn't directly respond to, even if you want to avoid answering mine.

Some time back, Loki, and others, such as Bronc, have raised some questions about the "dynamics" of a message board. Loki now seems to have lost (or at least abandoned any attempt to pursue) his interest. Even so, I took some time to address some of those questions. You find that it suits your purposes to characterize my observations as "bitching," but I challenge you point out where I "bitched." I simply made some comments in response to those questions. It is what it is. Like it, or not, it don't matter. If someone asks me to desribe a dog, I may hate dogs, or love dogs, but that it is irrelevant to the question of what a dog "is."

Again, you don't have to answer, but if you want to elaborate on your own comments tell me this: Why do you care if I care? Is it important to you? Your dissatisfaction and concern with my posts leads you to swear, to express pity for me, and to tell me what I "should" do. This suggests to me that you must "care" about something. What is it?
 
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I think I can sum this thread up.

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As far as my personal feelings go, OD, the conflict, controversy, etc. that these boards thrive on doesn't bother me in the least. The petty insults get wearisome and can certainly tend to interfere with serious discussion, but they don't really bother me if they aren't overdone. I don't see where it adds anything to a thread for a poster who has told the board how much he hates another poster 1,000 times before to come in and say it for the 1,001th time, but maybe that's just me, eh?

What I do have contempt for is one who wants to start a conflict, and then try to have his Mama finish it for him by complaining to the mods. Assuming that a poster has what he considers to be "enemies" on this board, then he should address them, not the mods, about his concerns, the way I see it. Again, that's probably just me, but, still...

I have been told that some of those who complain the most seldom make any posts at all. If they have something they want to contest, they should do so out in the open, in my view. To the extent they don't, they are just candyass complainers in my book--Mama's boys, if you will. I really don't know how they can live with themselves by assigning themselves the role of anonymous dime-droppers.

It's probably these same ones who never seem to post until they think they see a chance to "pile on." If 3 or 4 posts try to insult or ridicule another poster they will feel "safe" enough to participate and will add their insult too. Then they will scurry back to their rathole until they see another such opportunity. In the meantime, I guess they just content themselves with "flagging" many of the posts they see. They certainly have no stomach for "debate." Given the content of the few posts they do make, it would appear they are too inarticulate to debate anything to begin with. I suspect that this is a limitation which creates strong internal resentment.

“Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated.” (G. B. Shaw)
 
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Two laughing smilie faces at Hopper for this post, given the complete inconsistency in paragraphs two and three.

I imagine him being challenged to a game of one on one basketball. He starts cheating (you know, breaking the rules) by excess traveling and carrying and fouling, then would have the gall to get upset because the guy is calling him on it and wanted a mod...errr.....ref, to handle the situation.
 
since we were at one point in time here talking about school it occurred to me that if Michael Vick had a brother named Tim, that on the class attendance lists he would be listed as:

VICK, TIM


Drum Roll please!

just trying to get this thread back on topic, ya know
 
since we were at one point in time here talking about school it occurred to me that if Michael Vick had a brother named Tim, that on the class attendance lists he would be listed as:

VICK, TIM


Drum Roll please!

just trying to get this thread back on topic, ya know

Who wouldn't wanna be a full-time VICKTIM, eh, Mo!?

As far as "getting this thread back on track," I'm not sure anyone cares. Game gave some substantial input, but he hasn't addressed the last question I had about his input, asking for clarification.

Nor did Loki.

Nor did Bronc.

For that matter, you didn't either, Mo. If Eric comes across this thread, he may want to make a few comments, I dunno. He's the kind who might, though.
 
Who wouldn't wanna be a full-time VICKTIM, eh, Mo!?

As far as "getting this thread back on track," I'm not sure anyone cares. Game gave some substantial input, but he hasn't addressed the last question I had about his input, asking for clarification.

Nor did Loki.

Nor did Bronc.

For that matter, you didn't either, Mo. If Eric comes across this thread, he may want to make a few comments, I dunno. He's the kind who might, though.

Obviously I did care, otherwise why would I have mentioned it?

And why should I care that nobody else cares?
 
Heh, good one, Mo.



Well, Mo, my onliest point was that if ya cared, you probably woulda answered the last question I axxed ya, see?

Since ya didn't, that tell me one thang, at least: Yo a damn liar who don't care about nuthin.

I usually don't answer questions that I don't understand. Your statements frequently confuse me so I ignore them. I really don't have the time to get into long-winded discussions on the message board.

I'll probably get another negative rep for this post. Thanks, whoever you are. Guess I'm giving aint/hoppin' some competition.
 
I usually don't answer questions that I don't understand. Your statements frequently confuse me so I ignore them. I really don't have the time to get into long-winded discussions on the message board.

I'll probably get another negative rep for this post. Thanks, whoever you are. Guess I'm giving aint/hoppin' some competition.

1. It wasn't me, Mo. I don't give no neg reps to nobuddy.

2. Well, my question was very simple, and didn't really call for any 'long-winded" answer so maybe you just overlooked it. Or maybe you just don't have time.
 
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