We need to legalize marijuana. Situation in Millcreek

[moevillini]

I think you'll have an extremely hard time convincing people that liberals care about the effectiveness, cost or otherwise, of the war on drugs since they don't care about the effectiveness of any other government policy.

what on earth does this even mean?


wanting effective policies is not something that is determined by one's political leanings; certainly there are differences in what is considered a positive or negative effect and how any degree of effectiveness is measured, but that does not negate the goal of those across the political spectrum of achieving an effective policy


the fact that the majority of those in law enforcement and in the judicial system support decriminalization is not something I will dismiss as a consideration

 

[TroutBum]

Schmalchohol.

I stand corrected.

what on earth does this even mean?


wanting effective policies is not something that is determined by one's political leanings; certainly there are differences in what is considered a positive or negative effect and how any degree of effectiveness is measured, but that does not negate the goal of those across the political spectrum of achieving an effective policy


the fact that the majority of those in law enforcement and in the judicial system support decriminalization is not something I will dismiss as a consideration

Hey Moe, you must be new here. Let me introduce you to this wall. If you'll kindly just place your head against it, slowly pull it back, and then forcefully smash it forward again, you'll be sure to understand the point Slopper is trying to make.

I hope you enjoy your time at JazzFanz -- post more, you seem like a great kid!

 

[moevillini]

Hey Moe, you must be new here. Let me introduce you to this wall. If you'll kindly just place your head against it, slowly pull it back, and then forcefully smash it forward again, you'll be sure to understand the point Slopper is trying to make....

nah...


just been on a little high-atus


yuck, yuck, yuck....


<3

 

[squareinthecircle]

So, if they isolated the anti-inflammatory compound from the THC would you stop taking the combo that makes you high?

I already do take a tincture that isolates cannabidiol. It doesn't work as well as nature's version but it does work some, so sometimes I try it anyway.

I see this question quite a bit actually and it makes me wonder why this same group doesn't ask about trying to strip the euphoric feelings from narcotics. I can tell you that the morphine I take has a bigger effect on me than the cannabis. I imagine the people that ask this question to be working on ways to have sex with no euphoric feeling. Like my doctor told me when I started this med, sometimes a euphoric feeling can be a beneficial thing when patients daily experience pain and problems from serious diseases.

I also suffer from seriously painful conditions like chronic kidney stones (I just passed one a few hours ago that started a serious infection), diverticulitis, and others pains that they are still working to figure out. Add to that I take chemotherapy weekly, experimental meds, weekly injections, steroid anti-inflammatorys, and plenty more. I work with some that are much further in the disease than I so I get to see where I'm heading. RA is a damnable and merciless thing that twists and disfigures. In all this time I have never heard these ladies talk about isolating compounds from cannabis. They are just glad to have some relief since there is a need for effective medications to treat RA. They take the same steroids that I take and most of them have also blown out their stomachs with Ibuprofen and the like.

So to answer your question yeah I have and do. I can also tell you that until I hear patients complain about it, or unless I see a more balanced attack on the enemy that is euphoria I'm not going to take it very seriously. Those with legitimate serious health problems don't care what the rest think- they have enough going on in their days.

 

[Boondocksaint27]

I wouldn't say the majority of law enforcement support decriminalization

 

[Stoked]

I wouldn't say the majority of law enforcement support decriminalization

I would say until studies are done and reports are published it is all guess work one way or the other.

 

[TheSilencer1313]

No arguement here. But how does that tie into not wanting to talk about GMO labeling?

You want me to get serious than talk about something more important that needs to be fixed. Liek education, immigration, Social Security, Medicare, the deficit...

Ok, I'm down with that.
Although GMO food education is a very important issue healthwise.

 

[TheSilencer1313]

I would say until studies are done and reports are published it is all guess work one way or the other.

It's highly unlikely that those "mainstream" studies will ever be done.
While as many independent studies have already been done, and many states are beginning to accept this.

Does anybody really think that are so-called leaders aren't throwing down a toke once a week at least?

 

[Stoked]

It's highly unlikely that those "mainstream" studies will ever be done.
While as many independent studies have already been done, and many states are beginning to accept this.

Does anybody really think that are so-called leaders aren't throwing down a toke once a week at least?

I think the attitude of cops reflects, roughly, the attitudes of the public at large about the issue.

As for the leaders comment...that is to general for my liking. I am sure some do and I am sure some have never touched it before. I am also sure you will find everything in between.

 

[PearlWatson]

what on earth does this even mean?


wanting effective policies is not something that is determined by one's political leanings; certainly there are differences in what is considered a positive or negative effect and how any degree of effectiveness is measured, but that does not negate the goal of those across the political spectrum of achieving an effective policy


the fact that the majority of those in law enforcement and in the judicial system support decriminalization is not something I will dismiss as a consideration

It is my observation that liberals care more about the motivation behind a policy than the result of the policy. Bleeding hearts and such as. They are very generous champions of spending other people's money in order to make themselves sound compassionate.

I'm not one to go with consensus, but I see no evidence of consensus either. I'm guessing "the drug war" is different depending on the state so you can't really lump it all together anyway.