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I'm at the point where I'm willing to trade anyone except for Rudy and Mitchell. Everyone else is expendable, and yes, even Jingles, as much as I love him, if we package him to get a #1 option, so be it. But the Jazz need offense from somewhere and there is no one on the team that can provide that right now.

Keep up this attitude and you'll lose Gobert and DM for nothing too, just like Hayward.

You can't perpetually rebuild bro. You play to win the game.
 
We cant tank with a healthy Gobert, also a rookie doesnt fit with him. If you want to go that route you might as well trade Gobert. But we also dont need to get a high pick to get another good player. We didnt tank last year and got Mitchell. We got Gobert at the end of the draft.

I also think Exum is a young talent, so that makes three for me. Its a bummer he is out but that talented 21 year old is still on our team.

It is a bummer to loose Hayward for nothing. We cant have that happen again. But you also have to take a chance on retaining your talent you took years to develop that sounds like he might stay. If you trade talent every time it gets good then you might as well give up. I wish our front office had read the situation better, Hayward deceived them.

Yeah Hayward deceived us BIG TIME.


I dunno, my thing is, if the guy doesn't give you any indication that he's staying, we should assume that he's leaving. Otherwise you're left empty handed.


Look at what Chicago was able to get for Butler: Lavine, Dunn and Markkanen.


Look at what Indiana got for Paul George: Oladipo and Sabonis.


We can't take that risk again IMO.
 
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Yeah Hayward deceived us BIG TIME.


I dunno, my thing is, if the guy doesn't give you any indication that he's staying, we should assume that he's leaving. Otherwise you're left empty handed.


Look at what Chicago was able to get for Butler: Lavine, Dunn and Markkanen.


Look at what Indiana got for Paul George: Oladipo and Sabonis.


We can't take that risk again IMO.

bro quit blamin Hayward. he didnt deceive anybody. he wanted to leave for similar reasons deron wanted to leave. the team wasnt spending money to keep vets and doing enough to win. management is OK with a perpetual rebuild because it's cheap and easy and fans like you encourage them. stop is bro stop it. quit bein management's pet. i am here to save u bro let me save u.
 
There are plenty of teams who run good offense without great players. The Pacers are one of the best offenses in the NBA and they definitely don't have any great players individually.

The problem is the pieces we have are weird fits and Quin hasn't really changed the offense as much as he probably should to accommodate the wonky fits.

I agree with you. Snyder offensive system should adapt to the players of the roster but instead he wants the players to adapt to his system.

Unfortunately Quin seems inflexible with his conception of the game. I think he is a fan of the slow-paced European Basketball.
 
bro quit blamin Hayward. he didnt deceive anybody. he wanted to leave for similar reasons deron wanted to leave. the team wasnt spending money to keep vets and doing enough to win. management is OK with a perpetual rebuild because it's cheap and easy and fans like you encourage them. stop is bro stop it. quit bein management's pet. i am here to save u bro let me save u.

sorry mate, you're on drugs. Management did absolutely everything they could the last 12-18 months to build a team to win. He just wants dem bright lights of the city.
 
It's a problem, not the problem.

There are plenty of teams who run good offense without great players. The Pacers are one of the best offenses in the NBA and they definitely don't have any great players individually.

The problem is the pieces we have are weird fits and Quin hasn't really changed the offense as much as he probably should to accommodate the wonky fits.

Um... offensively Myles Turner + Oladipo are better than our whole team combined.
 
He was young, the Magic had no real identity and they were trying to stuff him into the role of pg distributor.

Put the right people in the right role and they perform better.
 
The 'What could have been' team:


Rudy Gobert
Giannis Antetokoumpo .... (instead of Trey Burke)
Kawhi Leonard .... (instead of Alec Burks)
Devin Booker ..... (instead of Trey Lyles)
Donovan Mitchell


A man can dream, can't he?
 
The 'What could have been' team:


Rudy Gobert
Giannis Antetokoumpo .... (instead of Trey Burke)
Kawhi Leonard .... (instead of Alec Burks)
Devin Booker ..... (instead of Trey Lyles)
Donovan Mitchell


A man can dream, can't he?

How would we have gotten Mitchell exactly?
 
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