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tea is for porcelain cups with little pinkies pointed out at the cosmos, to be peered at down long snozzles over stiff upper lips.

For all I decry the Brits, I should fear what this world is coming to without them.

"No sugar" was political code for let's bust the sugar plantation trade in the Indies so the slavers will go broke.

you're right about the solubility being favored by the sugar. I love sugar, just insist on dark brown cane sugar from Hawaii.



The world is not without Britons. They shaped the new world. Colonized the New World from America to Australia, from India back to America. Drew border lines on soils of the Arabs straight with rules. English spoken countries still rule the world.

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You should try the Turkish tea. Fresh from the highlands of Rize.

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It's called İncebelli (wasp waist) because of the tea glass.
 
I love...LOVE...a good Earl Gray. With cream and extra sugar please. Also don't mind Chai, again cream and sugar, but made with fresh spices, layered from the bottom up. A vice of mine I guess, all things considered. Not frequently, but now and then.
 
I love...LOVE...a good Earl Gray. With cream and extra sugar please. Also don't mind Chai, again cream and sugar, but made with fresh spices, layered from the bottom up. A vice of mine I guess, all things considered. Not frequently, but now and then.

yes, a little spiced tea, with sugar.

Green drinks, of some note as health nut fads, are essentially "tea" made with less heat. The good stuff is colored somehow, a chemical sign of absence of oxidation, which turns most colors brown. Cows love green stuff.
 
The world is not without Britons. They shaped the new world. Colonized the New World from America to Australia, from India back to America. Drew border lines on soils of the Arabs straight with rules. English spoken countries still rule the world.

* * *

You should try the Turkish tea. Fresh from the highlands of Rize.

T%C3%BCrkiye+Posterleri+Turk+cayi.JPG



It's called İncebelli (wasp waist) because of the tea glass.

I'll enquire at Enes' store of knowledge on this. A red drink reminds me of strawberries, raspberries, cherries, and such.

The United Nations is Britain's pocket toy, the modern Empire rolled out in grand puppeteer fashion. Communism is a British ploy to ape the ideals of the American Revolution and the American Experiment and prostitute those ideals as a sort of mock up of the notions of "The Importance of Being Earnest" by that infamous wastrel of British literature and culture, Oscar Wilde.

He was exiled for being gay, ostensibly, but I suspect it was for having the wit to expose the realities of British power.
 
Communism is a British ploy to ape the ideals of the American Revolution and the American Experiment and prostitute those ideals as a sort of mock up of the notions of "The Importance of Being Earnest" by that infamous wastrel of British literature and culture, Oscar Wilde.

Wow. Talk about the difference of frames and filters people look to the reality through.

First time I've heard this kind of definition for Communism, a one that is defined by American Revolution.
 
I'll enquire at Enes' store of knowledge on this. A red drink reminds me of strawberries, raspberries, cherries, and such.

Sir, I ensure you, not even close. And you get addicted to it. You drink it first thing in the mornings, during the day, after dinner.

Incredibly digestive.

I don't use sugar though, not because of health problems, I like its bitter taste that way. When I was in highschool, one morning, I accidentally drank my mom's tea and immediately quit adding sugar after learning that it tasted a lot better sugar-free and sugar kills its taste just like it does black coffee's.

We don't drink it with honey or milk either. Actually, it's disgusting to even offer milk for tea in Turkey. But I myself love eating a spoon of honey slowly while having my tea.

They serve you tea mostly in any place in the country you visit. Actually, sentences like "would you like some tea?" have become such cliché phrases that the owner of the offer usually does not wait until the answer and yells at the waiter or the teaboy "Sonny! Bring us two!" straight away.
 
Sir, I ensure you, not even close. And you get addicted to it. You drink it first thing in the mornings, during the day, after dinner.

Incredibly digestive.

I don't use sugar though, not because of health problems, I like its bitter taste that way. When I was in highschool, one morning, I accidentally drank my mom's tea and immediately quit adding sugar after learning that it tasted a lot better sugar-free and sugar kills its taste just like it does black coffee's.

We don't drink it with honey or milk either. Actually, it's disgusting to even offer milk for tea in Turkey. But I myself love eating a spoon of honey slowly while having my tea.

They serve you tea mostly in any place in the country you visit. Actually, sentences like "would you like some tea?" have become such cliché phrases that the owner of the offer usually does not wait until the answer and yells at the waiter or the teaboy "Sonny! Bring us two!" straight away.

I really need to start getting my caffeine from tea. I drink way too much Pepsi.
 
I really need to start getting my caffeine from tea. I drink way too much Pepsi.
That's tein you're looking for. Though it too is drank for the purpose of waking up. Perfect warmer if you live in cold places like Utah or Rocky Mountains.
 
That's tein you're looking for. Though it too is drank for the purpose of waking up. Perfect warmer if you live in cold places like Utah or Rocky Mountains.

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google says that tein is a company that makes suspension products. Is it also a brand of tea?
 
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google says that tein is a company that makes suspension products. Is it also a brand of tea?
Alright this here is explanatory enough.

Seems like theine (thanks pkm) and caffeine are the same molecules and their names differ just because of the root plant.

Coffee leads the products by far in including caffeine/theine molecule, but stimulates faster, higher and worns off faster than tea.

Theine or Caffeine?
Does Tea contain theine or caffeine? This is a question that occurs quite frequently.

Caffeine is called Theine when it’s found in Tea but it’s the same molecule (C8H10N4O2). The only difference is in the name which indicates that caffeine comes from the coffee plant while Theine comes from the Tea plant. Caffeine is also the general overarching term and is found not only in coffee and Tea but also in chocolate, guarana, beans, fruits and plants.



This molecule acts as a stimulator on the central nervous system, reducing tiredness and the sensation of fatigue.

According to the UK Tea council, the average daily caffeine consumption should be 300mg.

Compared with other caffeinated drinks such as coffee or coca-cola, Tea contains proportionally less caffeine/theine and its absorption rate is slower, resulting in a more revitalised feeling instead of an agitating effect.



For comparison purposes, please find below the approximate caffeine/theine content per cup in different drinks:

Coffee: 80 mg

Coca-cola: 45 mg

White Tea: 15 mg

Green Tea: 20 mg

Oolong Tea: 30 mg

Black Tea: 40 mg

Rooibos: 0 mg

Please note that these might vary according to the preparation method (for example, an espresso contains more caffeine than filter coffee).

In addition, when combined with Teanine, an amino acid exclusive to Tea which favours relaxation and concentation, Tea give us energy and vitality.

source: https://blog.myteabreak.com/2011/05/18/theine/
 
Alright this here is explanatory enough.

Seems like theine (thanks pkm) and caffeine are the same molecules and their names differ just because of the root plant.

Coffee leads the products by far in including caffeine/theine molecule, but stimulates faster, higher and worns off faster than tea.



source: https://blog.myteabreak.com/2011/05/18/theine/

I'll be honest. If it is the exact same molecule I'm not going to bother with the distinction. That's silly imo. That's like calling Vitamin C by a different name when it comes from a lemon than when it comes from an orange.
 
I'll be honest. If it is the exact same molecule I'm not going to bother with the distinction. That's silly imo. That's like calling Vitamin C by a different name when it comes from a lemon than when it comes from an orange.
True but tea might get upset hearing that its theine is now gonna be called caffeine.

It's best we leave it at coffee-caffeine, tea-theine and of course, cocoa-cocaine.
 
True but tea might get upset hearing that its theine is now gonna be called caffeine.

It's best we leave it at coffee-caffeine, tea-theine and of course, cocoa-cocaine.

Wine and Beer seem to be ok with alcohol even though neither is distilled.

Alcohol
This word comes from the Arabic al-kuhl, which originally meant a very fine powder of antimony used as eye makeup. It conveyed the idea of something very fine and subtle, and the Arab alchemists therefore gave the name of al-kuhl to any impalpable powder obtained by sublimation (the direct transformation of a solid into vapor, or the reverse process), and thus to all compounds obtained through the distillation process.
 
Wow. Talk about the difference of frames and filters people look to the reality through.

First time I've heard this kind of definition for Communism, a one that is defined by American Revolution.

The Pilgrims started out here with a theological sort of communal economy, but gave it up stepwise when it didn't work. There were some folks in those New England woods later, during the American Revolution, whose angst against private property required separate military action. Some gov tax measures, like the Whisky Rebellion, made waves as well. Later Mormons and some other private communal movements challenged the ideals of "property" as well.

European feudalism was a kind of communism, not based on "Party" but nobility who were interdependent with kings and such, and important to the national fabric. Leige servitude fed off notions like "The Divine Right of Kings", and it took determined action sometimes for the maintenance of any personal liberties or rights, such as those that brought about the Magna Carta.

For British nobles camped in their castles during colonial empire days, the revolt of the American colonists was a bitter pill, which deserved and got much attention. Marx and Engels were bankrolled not particularly by bankers but by British nobility.

In "The Importance of Being Earnest", Oscar Wilde exposed the social tactics of the upper classes as shameless exploitation of the innocence of a supposed virtuous but exploited idealistic public which paid more attention to pretense than substance. You could freely exchange words for "earnest", the name of someone the targeted lady loved. Words such as "respectable", "honorable", or even "wealthy".

In any event, I find the scribblings of Marx far too obtuse to deserve serious attention, and would never have inspired any loyalty if not assiduously credited as scholarship by British educational elites at Oxford and Cambridge, and bankrolled by donors interested in distracting and manipulating the public for private purposes.

It is well known that the Russian Revolution was supported by some financial heavyweights from Europe, as the Chinese Communism was supported by operatives from the same financial interests, including Americans like the Fords and Rockefellers. During Stalin's reign of terror, our Armand Hammer had an interesting relationship with the Soviets.

If you look at British commercial interests, colonial trade systems, and such, you would see that the British have acted to maintain their economic empire by ruthlessly precipitating wars between their enemies. Machiavellian principles of the highest order which I refer to a staged political puppetry on the world stage, of which the United Nations is the current manifestation. . . .

I see the insurgence of Western operatives into Ukrainian politics as a set up for another war, and the US "police action"/"nation building" experience in Iraq and Afghanistan as serving British commercial interests, particular the oil cartels including common interests such as Shell, Exxon, Chevron, in disrupting plans for Russian developments and pipelines through the areas.
 
The Pilgrims started out here with a theological sort of communal economy, but gave it up stepwise when it didn't work. There were some folks in those New England woods later, during the American Revolution, whose angst against private property required separate military action. Some gov tax measures, like the Whisky Rebellion, made waves as well. Later Mormons and some other private communal movements challenged the ideals of "property" as well.

European feudalism was a kind of communism, not based on "Party" but nobility who were interdependent with kings and such, and important to the national fabric. Leige servitude fed off notions like "The Divine Right of Kings", and it took determined action sometimes for the maintenance of any personal liberties or rights, such as those that brought about the Magna Carta.

For British nobles camped in their castles during colonial empire days, the revolt of the American colonists was a bitter pill, which deserved and got much attention. Marx and Engels were bankrolled not particularly by bankers but by British nobility.

In "The Importance of Being Earnest", Oscar Wilde exposed the social tactics of the upper classes as shameless exploitation of the innocence of a supposed virtuous but exploited idealistic public which paid more attention to pretense than substance. You could freely exchange words for "earnest", the name of someone the targeted lady loved. Words such as "respectable", "honorable", or even "wealthy".

In any event, I find the scribblings of Marx far too obtuse to deserve serious attention, and would never have inspired any loyalty if not assiduously credited as scholarship by British educational elites at Oxford and Cambridge, and bankrolled by donors interested in distracting and manipulating the public for private purposes.

It is well known that the Russian Revolution was supported by some financial heavyweights from Europe, as the Chinese Communism was supported by operatives from the same financial interests, including Americans like the Fords and Rockefellers. During Stalin's reign of terror, our Armand Hammer had an interesting relationship with the Soviets.

If you look at British commercial interests, colonial trade systems, and such, you would see that the British have acted to maintain their economic empire by ruthlessly precipitating wars between their enemies. Machiavellian principles of the highest order which I refer to a staged political puppetry on the world stage, of which the United Nations is the current manifestation. . . .

I see the insurgence of Western operatives into Ukrainian politics as a set up for another war, and the US "police action"/"nation building" experience in Iraq and Afghanistan as serving British commercial interests, particular the oil cartels including common interests such as Shell, Exxon, Chevron, in disrupting plans for Russian developments and pipelines through the areas.


Wow that's a lot of knowledge in a few words babe. Thank you for your valuable input. Is there some source you could lead me to to check out these well known Western benefactors of Marx and Engels? As far as I know, Engels was a rich family man and supported Marx's writings throughout their efforts.

Well said about Marx being obtuse. That he was. Where is the real taste in life when you are materialistic to the bone and have nothing left romantic, right?

But limiting Marx's writings' existence to just another British scheme sounds a bit hyperbolic to me. I'm sure all the communist revolutions have historical binds and touchings between unforeseen people and constitutions such as the example of Armand Hammer you have given, but revolutions are about what they idealize and serve for the sake of, not about who fed them. You must be familiar with such experiences as you are a reader, in those times, the revolutionists must have sought any possible aid for their cause. My country got aid from the Soviet Russia but turned its face towards Western capitalist civilization. And it was always meant to follow that road. Although I'm really curious what would happen if the other choice happened.

I find European feudalism more of a renewed slavery system than a communism. There were hierarchy in all parts of the system and nothing towards egalitarianism was practiced really. You as a peasant was meant to serve on the soil for the "divine" goodness of your powdered-*** lord. A more communal system compared to Marxism's ideals would be the primate-communal age, where you at least had no boundaries to take what you want. No state, government, constitution, armed force to take you down. Just you and your power to take what you want. Pure anarchy.

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Your post really got me into researching more of the phases of American revolution, especially after 1877, where we can see more of the early stage pains of the new federal government. I'd like to look at the history of Mormons and their given examples to the resistance to the federal government more of course since the place I write in. And because people don't talk about those these days and instead tell Mormons believe in this Mormons believe in that. I have found this text while I was looking for some of the thoughts of Marx and Engels about American Revolution, you might like to look at it if you have not already: https://archive.org/stream/marxengelsonrevo00neum#page/n3/mode/2up

I wish Marx had more insight to American and Asian societal systems and dynamics. He was kind of a dude that only went with what the hell was going on with the proletarian Euros and bourgeoisie. But then again, you only have one lifetime right?
 
Hey PKM! Do you have any Whiskey brewer ancestors back from the Whiskey Rebellion? It says here that Kentuckians did not pay jack **** to George and suffered too much for it in the end.
 
The Pilgrims started out here with a theological sort of communal economy, but gave it up stepwise when it didn't work. There were some folks in those New England woods later, during the American Revolution, whose angst against private property required separate military action. Some gov tax measures, like the Whisky Rebellion, made waves as well. Later Mormons and some other private communal movements challenged the ideals of "property" as well.

European feudalism was a kind of communism, not based on "Party" but nobility who were interdependent with kings and such, and important to the national fabric. Leige servitude fed off notions like "The Divine Right of Kings", and it took determined action sometimes for the maintenance of any personal liberties or rights, such as those that brought about the Magna Carta.

For British nobles camped in their castles during colonial empire days, the revolt of the American colonists was a bitter pill, which deserved and got much attention. Marx and Engels were bankrolled not particularly by bankers but by British nobility.

In "The Importance of Being Earnest", Oscar Wilde exposed the social tactics of the upper classes as shameless exploitation of the innocence of a supposed virtuous but exploited idealistic public which paid more attention to pretense than substance. You could freely exchange words for "earnest", the name of someone the targeted lady loved. Words such as "respectable", "honorable", or even "wealthy".

In any event, I find the scribblings of Marx far too obtuse to deserve serious attention, and would never have inspired any loyalty if not assiduously credited as scholarship by British educational elites at Oxford and Cambridge, and bankrolled by donors interested in distracting and manipulating the public for private purposes.

It is well known that the Russian Revolution was supported by some financial heavyweights from Europe, as the Chinese Communism was supported by operatives from the same financial interests, including Americans like the Fords and Rockefellers. During Stalin's reign of terror, our Armand Hammer had an interesting relationship with the Soviets.

If you look at British commercial interests, colonial trade systems, and such, you would see that the British have acted to maintain their economic empire by ruthlessly precipitating wars between their enemies. Machiavellian principles of the highest order which I refer to a staged political puppetry on the world stage, of which the United Nations is the current manifestation. . . .

I see the insurgence of Western operatives into Ukrainian politics as a set up for another war, and the US "police action"/"nation building" experience in Iraq and Afghanistan as serving British commercial interests, particular the oil cartels including common interests such as Shell, Exxon, Chevron, in disrupting plans for Russian developments and pipelines through the areas.


I see the Mormons as being much closer to the mutualism of Anarchists like Proudhon than they ever were to the collectivism of communists like Marx.

Edit: I think you would like Proudhon, if you haven't read him. I view his work as a continuation of the Lockean/Jeffersonian political philosophy. He is often misunderstood imo but that's because he makes it easy to be misunderstood. He said for instance "What is property? Property is robbery." but he also said "Where shall we find a power capable of counter-balancing the... State? There is none other than property... The absolute right of the State is in conflict with the absolute right of the property owner. Property is the greatest revolutionary force which exists."
 
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