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carolinajazz

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For all you marijuana smokers out there that think legalizing pot would be a good thing.....here's the latest from the State of Colorado!


"The results of a new study about the impact of Colorado’s marijuana legalization is raising troubling questions....the study cites a significant increase in marijuana-related traffic deaths, hospital visits and school suspensions."

“I had heard from kids that there was 60 percent of this particular high school using drugs, and she shook her head and said, ‘That’s way low,'” Kendal said.

The study states that over 11 percent of Colorado’s 12 to 17 year-olds use pot — 56 percent higher than the national average. It also cites a 40 percent increase in drug-related suspensions and expulsions — the vast majority from marijuana.

A report from the Rocky Mountain High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area, Colorado saw a 29 percent increase in emergency room visits, and a 38 percent increase in hospitalizations during retail marijuana’s first year.

My question is this: What would happen if the entire country legalized marijuana? And a second question: what percentage of Jazzfanz posters smoke the stuff? I say close to 80%!

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/09...m-hundreds-hundreds-of-parents-about-pot-use/
 
Part of this article is pure speculation and as such is quickly dismissed.

Also a 29% increase from which number? 2? 5? 10? 100?

Also if you wanted to be fair, you don't, then you would also look at all the positives coming out of this new law as well and compare positive v. negatives.

Also there are better ways for the school to handle this than expulsion.

Edit: Also I am stunned that legalizing pot led to an increase in use. No really...never expected that...
 
Kendal came home one evening to find his 13-year-old son unconscious from what he says was a marijuana overdose.He was gray. His heart wasn’t beating and he wasn’t breathing,” he said.
Kendal used CPR to resuscitate him and later talked to his son’s high school peer and supplier.
“I had heard from kids that there was 60 percent of this particular high school using drugs, and she shook her head and said, ‘That’s way low,'” Kendal said.
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A marijuana overdose resulting in no heartbeat and gray complexion? Yeah, so I'm supposed to believe this?

I also love the horrifying stats presented "I had heard..." okay "...from kids..." umm humm "...that there was 60 percent of this particular high school using drugs, and she shook her head and said 'That's way low'" Pretty rock solid numbers there.

Kids that hang out in circles that use drugs pretty much only know other kids who use drugs. But then, I thought we were talking about marijuana legalization, not drugs in general? And sorry Kendal, your son was on something other than marijuana, might want to look into that a little bit.
 
it's a good thing there haven't been any transformations in the economy for health care recently. Because of this, we can easily compare rates from before legalization and after. Success!
 
1. Of course more kids are going to smoke it once it's legally available. I'm sure more kids had access to alcohol after the end of prohibition. Consequently, more will be suspended for using weed. Like no ****?

2. There is no such thing as marijuana overdose, despite of what one "concerned parent" has to say about the subject. We are supposed to overturn a mountain of evidence because of one ******** story by one disgruntled parent.

3. The report picks and chooses data to make its case. For example 9% overall increase in traffic deaths than the previous year! Must be marijuana. But a quick look at data shows that 2014 was lower than average in fatal crashes compared to the past 15 years. For example, 2006 had 25% more traffic deaths. And 2015 has fewer deaths than 2013 (if rate holds for the remaining 3 months). It is about the most hilarious case of data cherry-picking I've ever come up across.
https://www.codot.gov/library/traffic/safety-crash-data/fatal-crash-data-city-county

4. Some of the numbers seem to be constructed for political soundbites. 100% increase in positive tests of marijuana use in drivers involved in accidents. Reading the actual sections indicates that they're talking about urine tests. Those drivers had smoked in the previous month! They weasel out of that ******** stat by saying that 16% tested positive in blood tests. A small increase is obviously expected since more people are using it.

This is just after a quick look at the report. I have to go back to work, but I already found about a dozen problems with the report. I am inclined to assume this is published by an anti-drug organization.
 
Gameface said:
A marijuana overdose resulting in no heartbeat and gray complexion? Yeah, so I'm supposed to believe this?

I also love the horrifying stats presented "I had heard..." okay "...from kids..." umm humm "...that there was 60 percent of this particular high school using drugs, and she shook her head and said 'That's way low'" Pretty rock solid numbers there.

Kids that hang out in circles that use drugs pretty much only know other kids who use drugs. But then, I thought we were talking about marijuana legalization, not drugs in general? And sorry Kendal, your son was on something other than marijuana, might want to look into that a little bit.
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Or the advocacy group just paid someone to quote for a made-up story. That, or her son just has a really bad allergic reaction to marijuana (I'm sure there are some people who do).

Then it says
“Kendal’s story breaks my heart, but I’ve got to tell you we have heard that from hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of parents throughout the state,” said Diane Carlson, Smart Colorado co-founder.
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So it goes back to seeming made up. Maybe a few kids have a really bad, near death allergic reaction, but hundreds? Doesn't seem real.
 
LOL a dumb *** thread by a poster known for that. I always come into threads create by CJ just for the hilarity. Not disappointed in the least this time.
 
Carlson says the culprit is its commercialization.
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How heavily is marijuana commercialized through television in Colorado? Is that a thing like how beer and alcohol companies advertise?
 
Siro said:
1. Of course more kids are going to smoke it once it's legally available. I'm sure more kids had access to alcohol after the end of prohibition. Consequently, more will be suspended for using weed. Like no ****?

2. There is no such thing as marijuana overdose, despite of what one "concerned parent" has to say about the subject. We are supposed to overturn a mountain of evidence because of one ******** story by one disgruntled parent.

3. The report picks and chooses data to make its case. For example 9% overall increase in traffic deaths than the previous year! Must be marijuana. But a quick look at data shows that 2014 was lower than average in fatal crashes compared to the past 15 years. For example, 2006 had 25% more traffic deaths. And 2015 has fewer deaths than 2013 (if rate holds for the remaining 3 months). It is about the most hilarious case of data cherry-picking I've ever come up across.
https://www.codot.gov/library/traffic/safety-crash-data/fatal-crash-data-city-county

4. Some of the numbers seem to be constructed for political soundbites. 100% increase in positive tests of marijuana use in drivers involved in accidents. Reading the actual sections indicates that they're talking about urine tests. Those drivers had smoked in the previous month! They weasel out of that ******** stat by saying that 16% tested positive in blood tests. A small increase is obviously expected since more people are using it.

This is just after a quick look at the report. I have to go back to work, but I already found about a dozen problems with the report. I am inclined to assume this is published by an anti-drug organization.
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I remember hearing something recently that said since legalization in Colorado, there have actually been less drinking involved auto accidents.
 
carolinajazz said:
For all you marijuana smokers out there that think legalizing pot would be a good thing.....here's the latest from the State of Colorado!


"The results of a new study about the impact of Colorado’s marijuana legalization is raising troubling questions....the study cites a significant increase in marijuana-related traffic deaths, hospital visits and school suspensions."

“I had heard from kids that there was 60 percent of this particular high school using drugs, and she shook her head and said, ‘That’s way low,'” Kendal said.

The study states that over 11 percent of Colorado’s 12 to 17 year-olds use pot — 56 percent higher than the national average. It also cites a 40 percent increase in drug-related suspensions and expulsions — the vast majority from marijuana.

A report from the Rocky Mountain High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area, Colorado saw a 29 percent increase in emergency room visits, and a 38 percent increase in hospitalizations during retail marijuana’s first year.

My question is this: What would happen if the entire country legalized marijuana? And a second question: what percentage of Jazzfanz posters smoke the stuff? I say close to 80%!

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/09...m-hundreds-hundreds-of-parents-about-pot-use/
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Have not got baked in 6 months. Going to roll a joint right now.
 
A study I want to see done is the correlation between legalization and use of other drugs.

People against marijuana always say "gateway drug" but it has always been my theory that the drug itself isn't the gateway, it's the drug dealers. In HS when I bought pot, my dealer would have other stuff every now and then and sometimes I would try it out of curiosity. I feel like legalization would have people turn less to dealers and more to legal stores, which would then decrease other drug use.
 
King Cy said:
A study I want to see done is the correlation between legalization and use of other drugs.

People against marijuana always say "gateway drug" but it has always been my theory that the drug itself isn't the gateway, it's the drug dealers. In HS when I bought pot, my dealer would have other stuff every now and then and sometimes I would try it out of curiosity. I feel like legalization would have people turn less to dealers and more to legal stores, which would then decrease other drug use.
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100% of all heroin addicts have consumed H2O.
 
The significant rise in marijuana related traffic deaths is probably 1 all the way up from 0.
 
King Cy said:
A study I want to see done is the correlation between legalization and use of other drugs.

People against marijuana always say "gateway drug" but it has always been my theory that the drug itself isn't the gateway, it's the drug dealers. In HS when I bought pot, my dealer would have other stuff every now and then and sometimes I would try it out of curiosity. I feel like legalization would have people turn less to dealers and more to legal stores, which would then decrease other drug use.
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This.
When I was in high school I tried pot, loved it and kept trying it and purchasing it. I got it from dealers/friends. Those dealers also had coke, acid, and shrooms so I did those drugs as well with the thought of "well im already breaking the law anyways so what the hell." There was no distinction between weed and other harder drugs.

I always had a harder time getting alcohol than weed and I think part of that had to do with the fact that weed was illegal, and only sold on the "black market" where alcohol was legal and there really was no "black market"


I have always been of the opinion that legalizing weed would make it harder for kids to obtain (over time of course..... As there becomes less and less people purchasing from dealers and more people purchasing legally at legit outlets), would make it less of gateway drug and make less kids do harder drugs.

I think that given time we will see less hard drug users, in kids and adults, less marijuana users that are kids, and less adults drinking alcohol. (If I could spoke pot I would definitely drink less).

Plus way more money for government through taxing the weed, more jobs in the weed industry, less money and time wasted in the court system prosecuting weed related crimes, more room in jails for the more dangerous/serious criminals, less people taking percocet, oxycontin, lortab, anxiety meds, anti depressants, etc (obviously weed would not eliminate all those drugs..... For some people weed would not help any of the afflictions that those pharmaceuticals are used for, but weed would help some of them.)
 
fishonjazz said:
This.
When I was in high school I tried pot, loved it and kept trying it and purchasing it. I got it from dealers/friends. Those dealers also had coke, acid, and shrooms so I did those drugs as well with the thought of "well im already breaking the law anyways so what the hell." There was no distinction between weed and other harder drugs.

I always had a harder time getting alcohol than weed and I think part of that had to do with the fact that weed was illegal, and only sold on the "black market" where alcohol was legal and there really was no "black market"


I have always been of the opinion that legalizing weed would make it harder for kids to obtain (over time of course..... As there becomes less and less people purchasing from dealers and more people purchasing legally at legit outlets), would make it less of gateway drug and make less kids do harder drugs.

I think that given time we will see less hard drug users, in kids and adults, less marijuana users that are kids, and less adults drinking alcohol. (If I could spoke pot I would definitely drink less).

Plus way more money for government through taxing the weed, more jobs in the weed industry, less money and time wasted in the court system prosecuting weed related crimes, more room in jails for the more dangerous/serious criminals, less people taking percocet, oxycontin, lortab, anxiety meds, anti depressants, etc (obviously weed would not eliminate all those drugs..... For some people weed would not help any of the afflictions that those pharmaceuticals are used for, but weed would help some of them.)
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to fishonjazz again.
 
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