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The weird thing is people on the Spurs board were complaining that the refs gave the jazz the win. Maybe fans truly are biased, because I really thought the majority of the bad calls went against the Jazz.
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Stifle Tower
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Absolutely. Those calls on Favors were some of the worst I've seen this year. And Manu was allowed his traditional quota of flops.
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JAZZGASM
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In all fairness, the travel call on Duncan was pretty weak (the palming call on Exum was equally weak), as were a few other calls that went the Jazz' way. But overall, I think the Jazz were hurt by the refs. WTH happened to the NBA's anti-flopping rule? Does it still exist?
Look at any game thread. Win or lose, it doesn't matter. I dare you to find one where there are fewer than 5 complaints about how the refs are conspiring against the Jazz. I've also noticed that the frequency with which one complains about calls is inversely proportional to his intelligence. It is one of the best way to gauge whether someone's opinion is worth reading or not.
It's funny because nobody on the Jazz knows how to flop. Hayward has been trying, but he's still weaksauce at it. Manu is a master at getting ******** calls.
You've been killing it lately and this is no exception.
That trade for Jennings proposed by NAOS was one of the worst serious trade idea in recent history of Jazzfanz.
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Spurs are just jealous of our sweet tank, so Pop was just showing us that if he wanted to, he could out tank us into the ground.
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This is a ridiculous comment because it generalizes. There were a number of calls last night that were flat out mistakes. The replays showed this clearly. Near the end when Favors blocked Leonard was one of them; not sure about the second block because I don't recall seeing the replay but it looked clean to me. There also was one time when Manu slipped and fell without contact and they called the foul; the replay showed it clearly. There probably were others, but these stuck out in my mind. Of course, there are going to be mistakes, but when you make one at a crucial juncture like the Favors block of Leonard, it can turn a game around.
The fact you think I'm saying that referees don't make mistakes makes me wonder if it would be even worth explaining. But let's give it a try.
Some times refs make bad calls. Some of those bad calls will help us, and others will hurt us. Some of the time they will help us at crucial moments, other times they will cost us the game. When the latter happens, most will complain, and that's fine. We're only human. But stupid people will complain about the refs nearly every game. And that's because they're stupid.
Naturally, we react more emotionally to negative things than to the opposite. That's just our animal instinct. Consequently, bad calls that go against us evoke strong emotions, and are thus much more memorable. Those that help us are either filed under "normal ref mistake" or "tough call, could've gone either way". If your animal instinct trumps your higher cognitive functions, then you'll always feel like the refs are cheating you, because that's all you notice. But there are those of us who can transcend that simple-mindedness. Thus, if I was ever ranking people based on their intelligence, I'll take the "number of complaints about refs" criterion over an IQ test every time.
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Spurs tried to give a game to the Knicks, but New York is SO bad they can't take advantage.
No Duncan, Parker, Leonard or Ginobili for the Spurs. Knicks playing without Crymelo. If it weren't for the fact that I want NY to finish with more wins than Utah for purposes of the draft, I'd be laughing. Jackson and Fisher DESERVE every minute of misery they're having together!
No Duncan, Parker, Leonard or Ginobili for the Spurs. Knicks playing without Crymelo. If it weren't for the fact that I want NY to finish with more wins than Utah for purposes of the draft, I'd be laughing. Jackson and Fisher DESERVE every minute of misery they're having together!
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The fact you think I'm saying that referees don't make mistakes makes me wonder if it would be even worth explaining. But let's give it a try.
Some times refs make bad calls. Some of those bad calls will help us, and others will hurt us. Some of the time they will help us at crucial moments, other times they will cost us the game. When the latter happens, most will complain, and that's fine. We're only human. But stupid people will complain about the refs nearly every game. And that's because they're stupid.
Naturally, we react more emotionally to negative things than to the opposite. That's just our animal instinct. Consequently, bad calls that go against us evoke strong emotions, and are thus much more memorable. Those that help us are either filed under "normal ref mistake" or "tough call, could've gone either way". If your animal instinct trumps your higher cognitive functions, then you'll always feel like the refs are cheating you, because that's all you notice. But there are those of us who can transcend that simple-mindedness. Thus, if I was ever ranking people based on their intelligence, I'll take the "number of complaints about refs" criterion over an IQ test every time.
Yeaaaaah, but this is the NBA where "reputation calls" are a thing. We used to get the benefit no doubt when we had Stockton and Malone (unless it was Knick Bavetta. Screw him.) But none of our guys right now are going to get a 50/50 call unless we are playing a team with even more anonymous players. Just look at Hayward, dude is mugged consistently and gets nothing. Gobert picks up a foul just by stepping on the court and being tall. Spurs have no cause to whine about any officiating at least for the next decade. Lakers too. I'll bet a ref shows up to whistle some guy just for walking by Kobe Bryant while he is shopping at the mall. Until we rate more games on National TV and compete record wise, we are going to get the short end of the ref stick most nights because we will be slotted in the Washington Generals role. It sucks, but it is just the way it is. That is why it is better just to play nasty if you are going to get rung up anyway. . .
Stifle Tower
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Of course it is. I'm sure Jason has copyrighted "Jazzfanz" and has the URL rights sewn up. If it were anything else, it could be LakerNation or clutchfans, or some dumb site like those.
>Starts thread whose entire premise is that the Spurs threw the game
>Says he's not saying the Spurs threw the game
Spurs also didn't play any of their big 4 against the Knicks. Must've been out of the kindness of their hearts.
That also happened in 1995 with the Rockets, Mr. W.T.F. Nonsequitur.
freakazoid
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That reminds me I once saw a couch that looked kinda weird.
