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Wes Mathews or Gordon Hayward

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Who is going to be the better career Pro? Would we have lost Dwill if we didn't lose Wes? And would our team be better if we replaced Wes with Gordon? (and we could have used the pick on another big like Ed Davis)
 
Wes Matthews = no Al Jefferson. So you would need to edit your post and incldue that scenario. Suppose we could have had Drew Gooden or someone like that if we kept Wes.
 
Hayward will have the better career. I think we are already seeing Matthews ceiling (which is very good), but Hayward has yet to start climbing really.
 
Wes Matthews = no Al Jefferson. So you would need to edit your post and incldue that scenario. Suppose we could have had Drew Gooden or someone like that if we kept Wes.


Agreed I believe that the Jazz would have had a Drew Gooden type as the backup to Milsap and they would have drafted a C like an Ed Davis.
 
Wes Matthews = no Al Jefferson. So you would need to edit your post and incldue that scenario. Suppose we could have had Drew Gooden or someone like that if we kept Wes.

Not necessarily true cause we use our TPE from Boozer to acquire Jefferson. KOC wouldn't have signed Raja & either one of Price/Watson/Elson.
 
Not necessarily true cause we use our TPE from Boozer to acquire Jefferson. KOC wouldn't have signed Raja & either one of Price/Watson/Elson.

Um, we have to have 13 players. Even signing Wes and not Raja would have put us like 5-6 million more into luxury tax plus all the up front money due to Matthews. I know some think the Millers have money coming out their butts, but they are not Paul Allen irregardless.
 
Goodness. It isn't even close. Elder Hayward has 3x the potential Mathews has. Letting Mathews go and picking up Hayward was an absolute stroke of genius or the greatest piece of dumb luck.
 
Wes Matthews = no Al Jefferson. So you would need to edit your post and incldue that scenario. Suppose we could have had Drew Gooden or someone like that if we kept Wes.

Actually thinking about keeping Wes you wouldn't have to not get Jefferson. Because according to Wes and his agent KOC never tendered him any type of offer. Because I believe he would have accepted the Raja deal. Then I we would have still been able to get Big Al and use our pick for a different need. All things considered I think that it might have changed Dwill attitude toward our front office.
 
Um, we have to have 13 players. Even signing Wes and not Raja would have put us like 5-6 million more into luxury tax plus all the up front money due to Matthews. I know some think the Millers have money coming out their butts, but they are not Paul Allen irregardless.

I'm the 1st to remind that we shouldnt expect the Millers to exceed the LT...

Wes $5.77M
Raja $3M
Price $1.38M
Watson $1.23M
Elson $1.15M

Instead of Watson/Price/Elson, we couldve (re)signed Gaines/Jeffers/Augustine/Thompson/or any other summer invites...

either way, this moot & I wouldn't have resigned Wes @ that contract THEN anyways.
 
I'm the 1st to remind that we shouldnt expect the Millers to exceed the LT...

Wes $5.77M
Raja $3M
Price $1.38M
Watson $1.23M
Elson $1.15M

Instead of Watson/Price/Elson, we couldve (re)signed Gaines/Jeffers/Augustine/Thompson/or any other summer invites...

either way, this moot & I wouldn't have resigned Wes @ that contract THEN anyways.


Only one thing to take into consideration we didn't have to sign Wes to the deal that the Blazers tendered. But, it seems that KOC's way of dealing with players is to let other teams set the market. That is why we have some of the garbage deals we have like CJ, Milsap, and why we couldn't have matched Portland's offer. I believe he would have signed the same deal RAja did.
 
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