Gyp Rosetti
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If we get Williams, then I really want Biyombo at #12 because I think we'll need a strong frontcourt behind him to mask his poor defense. And Favors and Biyombo may just be able to do that.
What are the chances Utah Jazz (3rd) can swap picks with Minnesota (2nd)?
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margodydek
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What did Lebron do to deserve #1 pick? Who was the top notch competition that he showcased his skills against? Just because someone doesn't have the opportunity to display their skills, doesn't mean they don't have them. I think it's funny how all the Biyombo supporters cling to his performance at the Hoops Summit and then follow that up with his play overseas. If it weren't for his Hoops Summit performance, he'd probably be a late first rounder. These are the same people who say you can't judge Kanter by his Hoops Summit performance. Look I know there have been plenty of HS kids who got picked well ahead of where they should have purely for potential, but if I'm allowed to have an opinion I just think Kanter looks really good. You can say Knight lead his team and that, sure, but we all know the college game has declined drastically over the years, so I just choose not to put a ton of stock into it. Hansborough lead UNC to a title, and while I think he's a solid pro, there's a reason he wasn't a top pick. I just like to go more by the eye test and watch a player and decide whether or not he can play and how good he's going to be. Might not be a great way to evaluate talent, but it's how I do it. Hope that's all right with everyone.
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BENTLEY
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Well, there's the eye test + the player's resume. Then you gotta project their transition to the NBA from that. It's gambling. People who are down on Kanter have reasons for that. His NHS record and other accomplishments don't support what they see in him, so they don't consider these accomplishments valid. Perhaps he failed their eye test. It's not like he's Dwight Howard.
I have my reasons for being down on Knight. We both could be right or wrong. We both have things that have formed our POV. I just keep going back to my principle that when you have a top 5 pick you don't spend it on a PG unless there is no question it's the right pick. Knight doesn't inspire that confidence in me, so my principle says I have to go with the guy that has size.
I have my reasons for being down on Knight. We both could be right or wrong. We both have things that have formed our POV. I just keep going back to my principle that when you have a top 5 pick you don't spend it on a PG unless there is no question it's the right pick. Knight doesn't inspire that confidence in me, so my principle says I have to go with the guy that has size.
jazzrule
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Clears throat - Borchardt the great center for the Jazz had bigger size than Kanter. Wink.
BENTLEY
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Borchardt, Bowie, Oden, ....
Gamble "big" doesn't always mean it will pay off. But that doesn't mean you always lose. Bigs are a premium. Guards aren't. It's a gamble. And this year you're not missing out on a stud like MJ. It's Brandon Knight, who has plenty of warts of his own. So if Kanter is a loss then you're out Brandon Knight. So what. To shoot for the value of a Al Horford you risk very little.
Gamble "big" doesn't always mean it will pay off. But that doesn't mean you always lose. Bigs are a premium. Guards aren't. It's a gamble. And this year you're not missing out on a stud like MJ. It's Brandon Knight, who has plenty of warts of his own. So if Kanter is a loss then you're out Brandon Knight. So what. To shoot for the value of a Al Horford you risk very little.
jazzrule
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Me myself and I are still thinking Williams not Knight at 3. Like I have posted many times if we don't get Williams trade down a couple of spots for Knight and get another pick in next years draft.
Hipporippo
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Totally agree with Williams making us weaker on defense. And, what is to make us think that Hayward and Williams will be synergistic on offense? I see Williams as a black hole and would much rather have the ball in Hayward's hands for playmaking. In my mind, Kanter plus Singleton is a much better move.
Hipporippo
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There is a difference between height and size. Borchardt never really had size. While Kanter is (minmally) shorter tha Borchardt, he is a beast. 260# with under 6% body fat.
BENTLEY
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I would love to get more 2012 picks.
Gyp Rosetti
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IAWTP.
The black holes that would be Al Jefferson and Derrick Williams might cut off five years from Jerry Sloan's life expectancy. That is, if he watches our games on the tube.
I want Kanter and 1) Biyombo 2) Singleton 3) Burks... Each of those latter three could bring something very dynamic to our team that we sorely need.
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jazzrule
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That is exactly what I was saying Jazzy.