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I’m showing a total cap of ~$82M. I believe the projected salary cap is $108. On paper it looks like 10 other teams, besides us, could hypothetically offer a max (or near max) deal (LAL, Hou, Phil, Orl, Pho, Dal, Atl, Brooklyn, Sac, Chi). Of course, this only my superficial glance so some of these teams may not have as much as advertised with capholds and such and other teams not on this list may be able to free up space with non-guaranteed and such.

We have have 5 free agents who, presuming a 150% cap hold (250% for Hood and Exum) will have the following holds unless renounced:

Favors $18M
Joe Johnson $15.76M
Hood $6M
Exum $12.5M
Neto $2.2M

Total: $54.5M, making our effective cap $136.5M.

I’m guessing JJ will not be back so our total holds would be more like $120.75M.

We have three guys with non-guaranteed second years that become guaranteed in July:

Thabo $5.25M
Jerebko $4.2M
Udoh $3.36M

Total: $12.81M

If we declined all options and renounced everyone’s rights, it could drop us down to about ~$70M (we wouldn’t and don’t need to). [Royce O’Neale is in here somewhere, too, but his contract is small and has a partial guarantee and not really worth mentioning].

Salaries thus far that are guaranteed:

Rudy $23.5
Ricky $15
Ingles $13
Burks $11.5
Mitchell $3.1
Bradley $1.7
Royce $1.4 (partially guaranteed?)

Total ~$69-70M, counting O’Neale’s which I’m uncertain on the guarantee currently.

Unfortunately, next year’s free agent class isn’t too inspiring. Any of the good free agents are restricted, which puts us in somewhat of a pickle — do we renounce rights to guys or decline options on other players so we can sign someone to an offer sheet, only to have it matched?

Here’s a list of 2018 free agents:

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2018/

The only real big fish on that list, in my mind, are Gordon and Parker — the former almost certainly should be matched and the latter more questionable. Other smaller fish include Avery Bradley. There may be more of people who opt out, but I don’t know who those are off the top of my head.

Others have tossed around the idea of waiting until the year after:

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2019/

Notables include Porzingis, Klay Thompson, KAT (restricted, not going anywhere), Russell, Jokic (restricted).

If we’re looking to go all-in this summer, then something like Rubio for Greg Monroe starts to make a lot more sense if it means not having to pick and choose as much among Hood, Exum, Favors, Thabo, Jerebko and Udoh. But in absence of moving Ricky for an expiring deal, it would mean having to drop a number of those guys to have the space for an offer sheet.

I do think moving for Love would be a solid move if LeBron leaves, but by the time the summer rolls around we’re more limited on salaries we can send over.

Any scenarios anyone sees? Is it worth making a bid on a RFA?
 
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Next year there isn't much available. Aaron Gordon will be matched at any price. You could make Milwaukee squirm by offering Jabari Parker a heapload. They have the inside information on him though, as far as how much of a recovery he's made or any lost athleticism. Personally I wouldn't gamble on Jabari, he was looking like a bad perimeter defender even before the ACLs.
 
I’m showing a total cap of ~$82M. I believe the projected salary cap is $108. On paper it looks like 10 other teams, besides us, could hypothetically offer a max (or near max) deal (LAL, Hou, Phil, Orl, Pho, Dal, Atl, Brooklyn, Sac, Chi). Of course, this only my superficial glance so some of these teams may not have as much as advertised with capholds and such and other teams not on this list may be able to free up space with non-guaranteed and such.

We have have 5 free agents who, presuming a 150% cap hold will have the following holds unless renounced:

Favors $18M
Joe Johnson $15.76M
Hood $3.6M
Exum $7.5M
Neto $2.2M

Total: $47M, making our effective cap $129M.

I’m guessing JJ will not be back so our total holds would be more like $113M.

We have three guys with either team options or non-guaranteed second years (would love someone to clarify as the latter would give us much more flexibility):

Thabo $5.25M
Jerebko $4.2M
Udoh $3.36M

Total: $12.81M

If we declined all options and renounced everyone’s rights, it could drop us down to about ~$70M (we wouldn’t and don’t need to). [Royce O’Neale is in here somewhere, too, but his contract is small and has a partial guarantee and not really worth mentioning].

Salaries thus far that are guaranteed:

Rudy $23.5
Ricky $15
Ingles $13
Burks $11.5
Mitchell $3.1
Bradley $1.7
Royce $1.4 (partially guaranteed?)

Total ~$69-70M, counting O’Neale’s which I’m uncertain on the guarantee currently.

Unfortunately, next year’s free agent class isn’t too inspiring. Any of the good free agents are restricted, which puts us in somewhat of a pickle — do we renounce rights to guys or decline options on other players so we can sign someone to an offer sheet, only to have it matched?

Here’s a list of 2018 free agents:

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2018/

The only real big fish on that list, in my mind, are Gordon and Parker — the former almost certainly should be matched and the latter more questionable. Other smaller fish include Avery Bradley. There may be more of people who opt out, but I don’t know who those are off the top of my head.

Others have tossed around the idea of waiting until the year after:

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2019/

Notables include Porzingis, Klay Thompson, KAT (restricted, not going anywhere), Russell, Jokic (restricted).

If we’re looking to go all-in this summer, then something like Rubio for Greg Monroe starts to make a lot more sense if it means not having to pick and choose as much among Hood, Exum, Favors, Thabo, Jerebko and Udoh. But in absence of moving Ricky for an expiring deal, it would mean having to drop a number of those guys to have the space for an offer sheet.

I do think moving for Love would be a solid move if LeBron leaves, but by the time the summer rolls around we’re more limited on salaries we can send over.

Any scenarios anyone sees? Is it worth making a bid on a RFA?

Hoods cap hold is like 7.5 and Exums is $15 which basically means unless they go we don’t have space. We can use the full MLE on someone that gets overlooked... I think we bring back Jonas and Thabo or trade one of them at this trade deadline to a contender... but likely keep them both next year.

I would stack contracts that expire next year and wait for 2019 if we want to make a big play. We have expiring contracts for 2018 FA so if someone is willing to work with us we could do a sign and trade.

Add maybe a bench piece this year with some upside. Seth Curry, Joe Harris, someone of that ilk
 
The thing, though, is that if we traded Rubio for Monroe, we’d have max space without having to bag anyone. If we strike out on someone like Jabari, we can offer an outrageous one-year sum (JJ Reddick deal) to someone to let them test the waters with us.
 
Use our expirings this year to pick up assets from teams that are cap/cash strapped and take on 2019 expiring salary. Try like hell to move up in the draft. Mitchell and Gobert are the only untouchables. Hope to re-sign JJ on a 1+1 (team option).

Punt on 2018 FA, target 2019 FAs (since two are UFAs just shy of 1st tier superstars in Klay Thompson and Jimmy Butler, in addition to a to-date grumpy Porzingis who would be the absolute perfect piece). If you strike out, oh well, you're just basically back to having a nice two-person core, some good role players (Ingles, likely at least one of Hood, Exum, or maybe Favors), and could probably keep Burks around.
 
I might be wrong, but I don't think the numbers listed for Hood and Exum represent their cap holds; they might be the QO's. I believe the hold for those coming off their rookie deals are 250% of their current salary. At least I read somewhere the cap hold for Exum will be $15M and for Hood $7M. Not sure about that $108M for 2018 cap. Didn't think it was going that high, but that might be good news/bad news for the Jazz. Increases cap room for Utah, but also means other teams could offer more for Hood or Exum.
 
I might be wrong, but I don't think the numbers listed for Hood and Exum represent their cap holds; they might be the QO's. I believe the hold for those coming off their rookie deals are 250% of their current salary. At least I read somewhere the cap hold for Exum will be $15M and for Hood $7M. Not sure about that $108M for 2018 cap. Didn't think it was going that high, but that might be good news/bad news for the Jazz. Increases cap room for Utah, but also means other teams could offer more for Hood or Exum.
I’m out of date on my CBA. I thought it was 150% but would welcome any correction.
 
If tanking is out of the question, trying to pry Parker away from MIL is the best move IMO. Even if it takes the max, as much of a risk as that would be.
 
If tanking is out of the question, trying to pry Parker away from MIL is the best move IMO. Even if it takes the max, as much of a risk as that would be.
I think the only good option is to trade for him. We would have to gut our team a lot to clear enough room to make a max offer.
 
I’ve updated the numbers as Hood and Exum coming off fourth year rookie deals will have a 250% cap hold.
 
Look like 27# and 45# are here for life. We need third star. If we cant move on draft (im sure DL's already know who he wants draft) lets pay Jabari.
 
Favors and Hood for Jabari and Delly.

Favors and Hood will probably combine to make less than what max Parker and Delly would make next year. The Bucks have to start watching the books. This trade gives them 2 good players for an oft injured potential star. This is a safer and cheaper deal for Milwaukee.

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I think the only good option is to trade for him. We would have to gut our team a lot to clear enough room to make a max offer.
If we were able to trade Ricky for an expiring deal then we would have room for a max offer while keeping Exum, Hood, Jonas, Thabo and Udoh.
 
If we were able to trade Ricky for an expiring deal then we would have room for a max offer while keeping Exum, Hood, Jonas, Thabo and Udoh.
We do have more room than I thought but

Rudy $23.5
Ricky $15
Ingles $13
Burks $11.5
Mitchell $3.1
Bradley $1.7
Royce $1.4 (partially guaranteed?)

Total ~$69-70M, counting O’Neale’s which I’m uncertain on the guarantee currently.

Plus the Cap hold of Exum $14,977,156 and Hood $7,160,593 puts us at 92. If we add in Sef, Thabo and Udoh we are at almost 105 right?

So if we take off Rubio's 15 that puts us around 90 ish? The Salary cap is supposed to be around 101. I dont see us clearing enough room to offer someone the max of I think 25 million. We would have to get below 76 million.

I guess if we let the cap holds of JJ, Favors and Neto go. Along with opting out of the contracts with Sef, Thabo and Udoh. Plus we trade Rubio and take nothing back or an expiring back we could retain Hood and Exum's cap holds and have a max salary slot to offer. Although I think it would be matched. To me that makes it a big risk to gut our team. I would rather trade for a player now.
 
We do have more room than I thought but



Plus the Cap hold of Exum $14,977,156 and Hood $7,160,593 puts us at 92. If we add in Sef, Thabo and Udoh we are at almost 105 right?

So if we take off Rubio's 15 that puts us around 90 ish? The Salary cap is supposed to be around 101. I dont see us clearing enough room to offer someone the max of I think 25 million. We would have to get below 76 million.

I guess if we let the cap holds of JJ, Favors and Neto go. Along with opting out of the contracts with Sef, Thabo and Udoh. Plus we trade Rubio and take nothing back or an expiring back we could retain Hood and Exum's cap holds and have a max salary slot to offer. Although I think it would be matched. To me that makes it a big risk to gut our team. I would rather trade for a player now.
The unguaranteed deals of those three guys counts toward the ~$82M base, then add in the 250% for Exum and Hood (I’m not certain that it’s that high... I show about 18.5M combined). So getting rid of Rubio really gives us max space.
 
The unguaranteed deals of those three guys counts toward the ~$82M base, then add in the 250% for Exum and Hood (I’m not certain that it’s that high... I show about 18.5M combined). So getting rid of Rubio really gives us max space.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/utah-jazz/cap/2018/

Rudy Gobert $23,491,573
Joe Ingles $13,045,455
Alec Burks $11,536,515 8.35
Thabo Sefolosha $5,250,000
Jonas Jerebko $4,200,000
Ekpe Udoh $3,360,000
Donovan Mitchell $3,111,480
Tony Bradley $1,679,520

This is that salary that you are suggesting and that is 65.699 million. Plus the Cap hold of Dante Exum $14,977,156 and Rodney Hood $7,160,593. That adds up to 87.836 million. That gives us about 13.2 million to offer a free agent. If we drop Thabo, Jonas and Ekpe that would clear up 12.8 million more and we could offer ~26 million which is about the max salary.

Our roster would be:

Rudy Gobert
Joe Ingles
Alec Burks
Donovan Mitchell
Tony Bradley
1 max salary player
1 first round pick
and a bunch of NBA minimum contracts.

Am I missing anything?
 
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/utah-jazz/cap/2018/

Rudy Gobert $23,491,573
Joe Ingles $13,045,455
Alec Burks $11,536,515 8.35
Thabo Sefolosha $5,250,000
Jonas Jerebko $4,200,000
Ekpe Udoh $3,360,000
Donovan Mitchell $3,111,480
Tony Bradley $1,679,520

This is that salary that you are suggesting and that is 65.699 million. Plus the Cap hold of Dante Exum $14,977,156 and Rodney Hood $7,160,593. That adds up to 87.836 million. That gives us about 13.2 million to offer a free agent. If we drop Thabo, Jonas and Ekpe that would clear up 12.8 million more and we could offer ~26 million which is about the max salary.

Our roster would be:

Rudy Gobert
Joe Ingles
Alec Burks
Donovan Mitchell
Tony Bradley
1 max salary player
1 first round pick
and a bunch of NBA minimum contracts.

Am I missing anything?
My understanding is the projected cap is $108. 250% of Exum and Hood’s salaries should be much lower. I could be wrong.
 
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