In that case, he's gone. Right?
What salary would you give to George Hill for the next season?
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In that case, he's gone. Right?
No idea. I would think there would be some kind of value he would be willing to pass on to go to a playoff team over Brooklyn, but IDK.
The first year of a max contract for him would almost be more money than he has made his entire NBA career so I could see how that could be super tempting.
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Id overpay up to 18
enchilada_style
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I dont blame him if he chases the money considering his age and current contract. If I'm DL id be concerned about how Hill holds up during the latter half of his next contract.
Cappy_Smurf
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No chance. That organization is trying to dig out of a deep hole. No way they throw that kind of money at a guy his age who had the injury issues he had this year. I'd be a lot more concerned about a team like SA offering similar money to what Utah is offering. Even then, I'd bet he'd rather stay with Utah than go back to a team that traded him and is in about the same position competitively.
Miggs
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Then let him take it and be miserable in Brooklyn.
Miggs
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I'd go higher than most here and offer two years with a team option for a third. Frontload it. 20M per.
Maybe four years with a team option after the second (can we even do that?) at 17M per. Again, frontload it.
Edit: I go back and forth on this, specifically how teams perceive Hill and how they'll factor his age and injuries into it. The numbers above are slightly lower than I originally put.
Edit 2: Lowered that figure again. I don't think those in NBA circles really look at Hill as a difference maker. He makes just 8M this year?
Maybe four years with a team option after the second (can we even do that?) at 17M per. Again, frontload it.
Edit: I go back and forth on this, specifically how teams perceive Hill and how they'll factor his age and injuries into it. The numbers above are slightly lower than I originally put.
Edit 2: Lowered that figure again. I don't think those in NBA circles really look at Hill as a difference maker. He makes just 8M this year?
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Hayward gets 30 m. No way you get ingles for <10m
Dali
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I would be comfortable with 17-20m and if it was 20 mil, it would be through gritted teeth, knowing full well that even that money in this market is probably slightly under.
The issue is this question mark he has over him health-wise, and he's not getting younger.
Maybe I'm just being cheap, but that's my line of thinking.
The issue is this question mark he has over him health-wise, and he's not getting younger.
Maybe I'm just being cheap, but that's my line of thinking.
Hill is getting at least 25 million. I think that's the floor of what he is going to get and the ceiling is probably 30 million. The absolute max he can get is 35 (I believe), but I dont think he gets that from anyone.
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Douchebag K
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Their current financial bind and entrapment in mediocrity is poetic justice for their previous free agent behaviour ...
Cappy_Smurf
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His 8 million this year makes him one of the most underpaid players in the league. Which is why nobody should hold a stupid grudge against him for keeping his options open. This will literally be his only chance to score a big contract in this league.
So you say Hill is more important to this team than Gobert?
I would pay 25 to CP3, not Hill. And there is way too much difference between them.
jazzfan1971
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If his agent is right about his value I probably would just let him hobble away.
No, that is just how the NBA contracts work bud. Gobert signed the maximum a player with his experience could get paid. Hill plays a coveted NBA position and he played it at a borderline top 10 rate this season when healthy.
The top PG's with as much experience as Hill are going to get 35,000,000 a year. So when CP3, Westbrook, Wall, Lowry, Irving, Thomas, Curry, Lillard, and Conley are up to sign contracts, they are all going to get 30,000,000+. (Just look at Conley who is the most recent deal among those players, and arguably the worst of the grouping: He is going to get 34,000,000 in his last year).
So currently I would call getting 30,000,000+ as All-Star level PG pay. You dont have to be an All-Star to be in this price range, but you have to be close to their production level. It's Hill's agent hopes that Hill is considered close to this tier. The level that Hill was at early in the year firmly put him at Mike Conley level of production and importance IMO. That is probably his group's rationale in wanting a big contract.
Even if you dont view Hill to be in that group, it's hard to argue that he isn't close. That is why I think 25,000,000-30,000,000 price tag is probably what he is going to get. I would put his value right at 25,000,000 a year.
The Jazz best case scenario RN for the Jazz is that CP3 and Lowry both switch teams and take up offers from teams offering big money for PG's, thus lowering the available market and hoping we can get a deal closer to his 25,000,000 value (which I firmly believe the Jazz were probably offering in extension negotiations).