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What to do with Taylor Hendricks year one

Handlogten's Heros said:
I think Keyonte ends up in the rotation... whoever ends up starting will cause kind of a ripple effect on the rest of the guys minutes. I think Sexton is a good choice to start but have a feeling they push him to the bench and end up going with JC and Ochai or JC and Dunn. If Ochai starts it will cut into Sexton's minutes a bit. I also wonder if you gave George the starting job with JC and the others... but only played him like 12-16 minutes (the Keith Bogans start if you will) if it would help mix and match things while providing development minutes. (small side tangent... if we can't get 15 minutes a night for Taylor and Keyonte then WTF are we doing here? We are a play in team right now so I'd say player development is basically just as important as winning or damn close.)

The other thing I wonder is if they will put KO and JC as the backup 5 full time or if they sneak in 4-6 minutes of Yurtseven... maybe in the first half and then stay small for the 4th quarter? I would do the frontcourt rotation the same way you have it here... I think Hardy is pretty flexible.

Not disagreeing with anything just discussing and wanted to give some appreciation to a well thought out post here... good job.
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We have so many capable, intriguing guards; it's crazy. Hopefully one of them rises to the top and takes the minutes because he proves it on the court. We know what to expect with Sexton (hopefully he stays healthy) and JC. I'm interested in seeing what THT does - he showed some insane play toward the end of the season. Having him is a nice insurance policy. And Dunn... it's going to be interesting to see if he can still put up sweet shooting numbers as he's clearly the best PG defender. Having him and Ochai in the backcourt is some nice defense.
 
NUMBERICA said:
So, HH is the one obsessed with YOU, despite that you are the one that keeps bringing him up and responding to his points while he doesn't acknowledge you?

Get back to working on your hot takes board cuz this one ain't it.
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I have no idea how that is what you took away from that.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Overall there is a chance Sensabaugh is better but his specific talents aren’t really a huge need and are something that isn’t handed over to rookies and his huge glaring weakness is a thing that gets you planted on the bench. If both guys are healthy I am extremely confident that Taylor gets more minutes. Brice’s college defensive tapes reminded me of Grayson Allen as a rookie… and that was against college players. We will see if that was just a focus or commitment thing but he was atrocious.
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We don’t have anyone on the team at sf with Brice’s skill set.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Not arguing but how can you tell it wasn’t the knee hampering his defense?
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Go watch the clips if you'd like. Maybe you have a different opinion. It wasn't just like he was slow laterally... it was a confluence of things... attentiveness, technique, some physical limitations, and desire maybe? Its just funny how we assume he has this skillset that will translate and all of his weaknesses are waived away with an injury magic wand... then when some talk about Tay Henny they are like "we don't know how good of a shooter he is?".

We currently have a few bucket getters who struggle on defense. Not sure what Sensabaugh brings is super necessary. I like him but I think it will take time to figure out.
 
Sensabaugh is a far superior shooter.

Hendricks is a good shooter for what he is, a stretch forward who can catch and shoot.

Sensabuagh has every kind of 3pt shot in his bag at a higher %, at a higher per minute volume, and better indicators.
 
NAOS_pt2 said:
You guys have any ideas why Sensabaugh wasn't drafted higher than whats-his-name from France? The wemby kid. This thread is startng to make me wonder. TIA
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Boy... I'm not sure you are ready to introduce some Bilal violence to this convo...

Brice had a knee surgery and some medical red flags. The scouting report is that he isn't very good on defense. Some refuse to believe it, some think its overblown, but that is the basic book. There is also some discussion about getting his shots against NBA players... I get it but I think his success will rest on health and how good he gets defensively. I trust he can shoot and get buckets once he has a bit of seasoning.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
So if he's at 43% on "open" then his jumper must tank when it's slightly guarded whereas Brice shoots it the same either way, hence Brice better.
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Or the difference in the guys as shooters is not all that different especially seeing as both would be used offball to spread the floor for more seasoned ball handlers. So the question is do you put more size and defense on the court or more ballhandling? I have a hard time seeing coach throw Brice out there to get buckets when he has JC, Sexton, THT and Dunn... also Keyonte as another rookie option.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Or the difference in the guys as shooters is not all that different especially seeing as both would be used offball to spread the floor for more seasoned ball handlers. So the question is do you put more size and defense on the court or more ballhandling? I have a hard time seeing coach throw Brice out there to get buckets when he has JC, Sexton, THT and Dunn... also Keyonte as another rookie option.
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It's the NBA and the Jazz aren't some kind of amazing open **** generating team, you need a guy who can take a good 3pt look and shoot it like a great look. Plus he can do something off the dribble if he gets run off the line.

The Jazz are not in danger of having too much offense
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's the NBA and the Jazz aren't some kind of amazing open **** generating team, you need a guy who can take a good 3pt look and shoot it like a great look. Plus he can do something off the dribble if he gets run off the line.

The Jazz are not in danger of having too much offense
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You can never have TOO much offense... but we were 10th in offense and 23rd in defense last year so it would seem to me there might be more low hanging fruit on improving the defense. Isn't like all Taylor can do is shoot... he got a lot of dunks last year too... those can come off of close outs, cuts, putbacks, transition... but they matter. It is likely that if Sensabaugh is on the court there are two other perimeter options who would be better creating off the dribble. So is it worth compromising the defense? The difference between the guys as shooters is much smaller than the difference between the two on defense.

Tell ya what... you seem really convinced that Brice is the dude. I think its VERY likely Hendricks plays more. So lets just see who Coach Hardy elects to play more minutes. The better player will get the minutes.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
You can never have TOO much offense... but we were 10th in offense and 23rd in defense last year so it would seem to me there might be more low hanging fruit on improving the defense. Isn't like all Taylor can do is shoot... he got a lot of dunks last year too... those can come off of close outs, cuts, putbacks, transition... but they matter. It is likely that if Sensabaugh is on the court there are two other perimeter options who would be better creating off the dribble. So is it worth compromising the defense? The difference between the guys as shooters is much smaller than the difference between the two on defense.

Tell ya what... you seem really convinced that Brice is the dude. I think its VERY likely Hendricks plays more. So lets just see who Coach Hardy elects to play more minutes. The better player will get the minutes.
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I just dont think that rookies generally add to defense (unless they are the elite of the elite and I just dont think Hendricks is that on D) and the position Hendricks more naturally plays is more crowded than Brice's. I just think Brice has a higher likelihood of contributing early (again, he was arguably the best offensive freshman in the nation along with Brandon Miller) and that his potential year 1 contributions are underdiscussed.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I just dont think that rookies generally add to defense (unless they are the elite of the elite and I just dont think Hendricks is that on D) and the position Hendricks more naturally plays is more crowded than Brice's. I just think Brice has a higher likelihood of contributing early (again, he was arguably the best offensive freshman in the nation along with Brandon Miller) and that his potential year 1 contributions are underdiscussed.
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Rookies don’t generally “add” to either side of the court. You hope they develop without hurting you too much. I think Taylor will be good enough at providing some benefits while staying “out of the way” so to speak. Sensabaugh is going to be a worse defender than Taylor… if you are telling me we hand him the ball on offense in a secondary or tertiary role he’s going to hurt more than he helps on that side too… we will see.
 
I remember Karl Malone pitching a fit when the Jazz drafted Deshawn Stevenson "because he won't contribute for four or five years." These guys are one year older than DSteve was at the time.
 
homeytennis said:
I remember Karl Malone pitching a fit when the Jazz drafted Deshawn Stevenson "because he won't contribute for four or five years." These guys are one year older than DSteve was at the time.
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Karma for Malone that DeShawn won a ring and he didnt.
 
homeytennis said:
I remember Karl Malone pitching a fit when the Jazz drafted Deshawn Stevenson "because he won't contribute for four or five years." These guys are one year older than DSteve was at the time.
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Weird that Karl would complain about someone being too young.
 
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