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What to do with Taylor Hendricks year one

I don't think you have to put down one or the other. Brice and Hendricks were both near the top of "NBA ready" guys in this draft. They are very different players, so depending on the context I could see arguments for either. Seems as though the FO has a different read on Hendricks though, so who knows.
 
It feels JFC is about to swing wildly back into the "core4" years, where there's nothing but moaning about how Favors, Kanter, Burks, and Hayward (and then Burke) need more minutes—because they're clearly future All-Stars and paving the road to championship glory. My only question right now is when Sensabaugh has his first 50-40-90 season (and if he'll be the youngest to ever do it).
 
NAOS_pt2 said:
It feels JFC is about to swing wildly back into the "core4" years, where there's nothing but moaning about how Favors, Kanter, Burks, and Hayward (and then Burke) need more minutes—because they're clearly future All-Stars and paving the road to championship glory. My only question right now is when Sensabaugh has his first 50-40-90 season (and if he'll be the youngest to ever do it).
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100% this is where we are headed. Hardy is better than Corbin and we have a better young nucleus... but there will be many tears over vet playing time.
 
Complaining about the young players not playing is undefeated. We could win the chip, and there will still be people complaining about the late second round draft pick not playing lol.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
100% this is where we are headed. Hardy is better than Corbin and we have a better young nucleus... but there will be many tears over vet playing time.
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For me it was always about who the vets were. Jamaal tinsely, old washed up richard jeffereson, and old ****** howard (josh howard i think?) all suck anyways . So if the vets suck, and you are tanking anyway, then no reason to play any of those dudes ahead of burks, kanter, favors, hayward etc.

Same with this current team. Lauri, KO, Collins, Clarkson, sexton are all vets who are still good plus we are not tanking so i doubt people will complain much if those guys get minutes over keyonte, sensabaugh, and hendricks.

Last season we had rudy gay who was obviously not going to be around for long, was often checked out, washed up, having a career worst shooting efficiency and was never gonna fetch anything in a trade so young dudes should get those minutes imo.
 
fishonjazz said:
For me it was always about who the vets were. Jamaal tinsely, old washed up richard jeffereson, and old ****** howard (josh howard i think?) all suck anyways . So if the vets suck, and you are tanking anyway, then no reason to play any of those dudes ahead of burks, kanter, favors, hayward etc.

Same with this current team. Lauri, KO, Collins, Clarkson, sexton are all vets who are still good plus we are not tanking so i doubt people will complain much if those guys get minutes over keyonte, sensabaugh, and hendricks.

Last season we had rudy gay who was obviously not going to be around for long, was often checked out, washed up, having a career worst shooting efficiency and was never gonna fetch anything in a trade so young dudes should get those minutes imo.
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I’m still mad we didn’t trade Josh Howard for a second round pick. Maybe it was KOC all along who got the “no seconds please FTW” mode rolling.
 
Also, now’s the chance to be ahead of the curve in doing massive second round pick swaps. Collect enough of those and we’ll find a couple Equate brand first rounders. Maybe even Kirkland.
 
fishonjazz said:
Last season we had rudy gay who was obviously not going to be around for long, was often checked out, washed up, having a career worst shooting efficiency and was never gonna fetch anything in a trade so young dudes should get those minutes imo.
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Sarcasm?
 
One Brow said:
Sarcasm?
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Why would you think that? He is old and washed. His efficiency is atrocious. I said he wouldn't be around for long (not on the roster) and wouldn't fetch much in a trade
Which thing is inaccurate?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
100% this is where we are headed. Hardy is better than Corbin and we have a better young nucleus... but there will be many tears over vet playing time.
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Yeah Hardy has said in interviews many times that rookies specifically have to earn their minutes. But I dont think he is gonna be too rigid with that, up to the point where he wouldn't play a rookie who is better than a vet he competes with.

I think he understands that there is a balance in player development that you need to find. You cannot put too much or too little on one players plate at a time, or he will either develop bad habits or progress slower than he should. Kessler was a good example of how Hardy operates with a promising rookie vs an established vet.

Kessler had to work half the season with low minutes to prove he should start over KO/Vando who were the two getting all the early season starts at the 5. But he didn't stay behind them the entire year, as some other more conservative coach might have done.
 
fishonjazz said:
Why would you think that? He is old and washed. His efficiency is atrocious. I said he wouldn't be around for long (not on the roster) and wouldn't fetch much in a trade
Which thing is inaccurate?
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He fetched Collins in a trade. That seems to be a pretty good return.
 
Not gonna lie.... From the lazy and information-starved spot on my couch, I want to be able to watch the games and feeeeeel that the organization has its eye on at least a 2-3 year developmental arc, rather than trying to maximize in the short-term. And if George and Hendricks aren't getting regular burn, then it'll be harder to feel that, not easier.

I fully understand how easily all these feelings from my couch slip into simple delusions, but it doesn't feel deluded to say that this team should come more into its power not next year, but the year after + the year after that, and it's that that we should be aiming for, and then adjusting to.

I really hope we don't repeat the Conley story: pushing in too early.
 
One Brow said:
He fetched Collins in a trade. That seems to be a pretty good return.
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lol.
Ya they wanted him so so badly that they immediately waived him. Spoiler alert, he wasn't the reason that the hawks wanted to do the trade. But ya, i guess you found the one tiny little nit to pick at in my post. You win this round.
 
It was a good decision to keep Rudy Gay for as long as the Jazz did. They could have waived or stretched him last off-season and that would have been a popular decision among a lot of people on this board. His play didnt get us John Collins, but having a manageable one year salary that owners arent irate about cutting was a valuable thing to have.
 
Gay was a tax not a benefit in that trade lol.
 
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