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Qman

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How does steal rate translate from college to the league? Better ball-handlers, better passers, smarter players (presumably). I feel like it would be easier to accumulate steals in college

Kevin Pelton (2:20 PM)


Steals are definitely easier to accumulate in college, but that's true of most all stats. So the more interesting question is how consistently they translate, and that's high for steals. They also tend to be indicative of athleticism. That's why it's very bad news for prospects, like Shabazz Muhammad in this year's draft, to have poor steal rates.

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I have also seen that rebounding almost always translates.
 
In my opinion, steal rates and even blocked shots can be tough to use as a gauge.

Different coaching philosophies can have an incredible impact on these numbers. Some coaches teach defenders to never over-play passing lanes while others let the kids get after it (typically because they have better rim protectors behind them). Some coaches want their bigs to most never leave their feet.. while others promote the block shot much more so as a momentum changer.. among other things.

Calipari, for example, says steals are the most overrated stat in basketball and blocked shots aren't far behind. There are plenty of damn good defenders that don't rack up gaudy stats.. their job is to keep stats FROM happening.

Anyway.. stepping off soap box.
 
Rebounding is usually the given.

Agree. Rebounding is more about understanding where the ball is most likely to come off given the shot, establishing position and then fighting for the ball. Rebounding is more about hustle and toughness than talent.
Steals and blocks ARE overrated. As mentioned, overplaying the passing lanes and getting 2-3 steals can leave the team exposed on several more. Blocks are great to watch, but you'd rather have your players fighting for position underneath and keeping their bigs away from the basket, or stopping penetration by the guards so they don't get to the rim.
 
Agree. Rebounding is more about understanding where the ball is most likely to come off given the shot, establishing position and then fighting for the ball. Rebounding is more about hustle and toughness than talent.
Steals and blocks ARE overrated. As mentioned, overplaying the passing lanes and getting 2-3 steals can leave the team exposed on several more. Blocks are great to watch, but you'd rather have your players fighting for position underneath and keeping their bigs away from the basket, or stopping penetration by the guards so they don't get to the rim.

Chuck Hayes... 6'6 center.
 
The more I read, see and hear the more I am convinced ......Shabazz is going to be a Jazzman.
 
Rebounding translates, ability to get to the foul line translates, typically being able to finish translates, and for guards, having that little teardrop floater always translates.
 
Steals can be an indication of basketball IQ and situational awareness. Both of those things help out a lot in the nba. Just thinking about stockton who was a good athlete but not amazing, yet he has the most steals. May want to rethink what goes into a high steals rate.
 
What doesn't translate?

Being a scoring leader in D1.

1990–91 Kevin Bradshaw G
1991–92 Brett Roberts F
1992–93 Greg Guy G Jr
1993–94 Glenn Robinson F
1994–95 Kurt Thomas C
1995–96 Kevin Granger G Sr
1996–97 Charles Jones G Jr
1997–98 Charles Jones (2) G
1998–99 Alvin Young G Sr
1999–00 Courtney Alexander G
2000–01 Ronnie McCollum G
2001–02 Jason Conley G Fr
2002–03 Ruben Douglas G Sr
2003–04 Keydren Clark G So
2004–05 Keydren Clark (2) G
2005–06 Adam Morrison F Jr
2006–07 Reggie Williams G Jr
2007–08 Reggie Williams (2) G
2008–09 Stephen Curry G Jr
2009–10 Aubrey Coleman G
2010–11 Jimmer Fredette G
2011–12 Reggie Hamilton G
2012–13 Erick Green G Sr
 
Steals can be an indication of basketball IQ and situational awareness. Both of those things help out a lot in the nba. Just thinking about stockton who was a good athlete but not amazing, yet he has the most steals. May want to rethink what goes into a high steals rate.

It's called gambling and it usually hurts a team more than it helps.
 
Being a scoring leader in D1.

1990–91 Kevin Bradshaw G
1991–92 Brett Roberts F
1992–93 Greg Guy G Jr
1993–94 Glenn Robinson F
1994–95 Kurt Thomas C
1995–96 Kevin Granger G Sr
1996–97 Charles Jones G Jr
1997–98 Charles Jones (2) G
1998–99 Alvin Young G Sr
1999–00 Courtney Alexander G
2000–01 Ronnie McCollum G
2001–02 Jason Conley G Fr
2002–03 Ruben Douglas G Sr
2003–04 Keydren Clark G So
2004–05 Keydren Clark (2) G
2005–06 Adam Morrison F Jr
2006–07 Reggie Williams G Jr
2007–08 Reggie Williams (2) G
2008–09 Stephen Curry G Jr
2009–10 Aubrey Coleman G
2010–11 Jimmer Fredette G
2011–12 Reggie Hamilton G
2012–13 Erick Green G Sr

Kurt Thomas was a scoring leader? Wtf?
 
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