Sexual Favors
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May be valid, but I would like to hear/see you elaborate as to how. His mom has a history of dissing Kanter publicly.
What's going on with Burke?
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May be valid, but I would like to hear/see you elaborate as to how. His mom has a history of dissing Kanter publicly.
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Agreed. The OP was a hyperbolic mess, but the discussion it facilitated is, in my opinion, worth discussing.
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Kanter is a negative on both sides of the floor... I don't care what position he is playing.
You are aware that if Favors and Kanter start together it doesn't matter what you call them, NBA players don't wear bracelets saying who has to guard you. A team can put their "center" or "PF" on Kanter. It's not like Kanter's lateral speed scares anyone from putting a center on him.
Sexual Favors
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Yes. Match ups dictate everything. Said this numerous times already. I just think fans, and our FO should think of him as a 4 rather than a 5. When you look at him as a 4, and then think of all the prominent 4's who can't play D, it makes his limitations easier to swallow. He has a lot to offer that people often overlook because they are so concerned about what a legit center is. Just because Kanter is taller than Favors, does not make him the center. Malone has said Kanter is a PF.
At the end of the day, they are bigs.
Everything else you said doesn't matter
No, but if his ability to shoot from the perimeter makes their C go out to guard him, that will change.
I think Quin is a good enough coach to see and exploit that.
Sexual Favors
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But it does. Ty had hang ups about who and what Kanter was supposed to be, and it severely limited his playing time and development.
He is a big. But, if he is utilized, and thought of as a PF, he has more freedom to be more offensive minded, which is his strength. Not saying he shouldn't improve his D, he should. I am just saying, no one should be expecting him to be a rim protector and then faulting him when he is not. Time for Jazz fans, and teammates to celebrate the fact that we have a 6'11" big w/ touch, who also has a post game. Players like him are rare, yet it seems most people have given up on the kid. Dante is really raw as well, but the talent is real. Hope jazz fans don't put the same ridiculous expectations on him as well.
It was an off topic rant.
Yes, the coach should put him in the spots where he can be most effective. He should do things he's good at, and avoid trying to do things he can't.
You know how much of this is dependent on whether he's labeled PF or C on his bio? Nothing
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Sexual Favors
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Fine. I don't care what you call him. I'm just sick of fans thinking he is trash because he doesn't fit their idea of what a center should be. That was Ty's problem. Don't think it will be Quin's. Jazzfanz need to get over it.
Not Burke.
Perhaps you are right, perhaps you are not. But i am unwilling to jump on that train when its just assumption.
Funny to see you representing the other foot though.
Sexual Favors
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It was assumption. Perhaps I was wrong. But, I do remember him repeating Ty's propaganda in post game interviews about how having Enes out there didn't help us win, but Marvin did, when the reality was how Enes was used was the problem.
Not worthy of banishing the kid, or demanding trades, but worthy of discussion.
Not sure why you bring this up with me when I have been discussing it with you off and on all day lol.
To me that speaks more to Burke's being a company man than anything. Just like his appearance in NY last night tells me his is all in on being with the Jazz.
I think he's trash because his mind is even slower than his body. Has nothing to do with position at all, but I'm sure Corbin was mentally abusive to him and that's why he was so hesitant or lost 98% of the time on court.
Sexual Favors
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Yes, you've been discussing it. But, in post #41, you called mere discussion "such an overreaction." Which gave me the impression that you were in support of those who say this shouldn't be discussed. You see?
I believe he is all in as well. Just not sure he has the kindest of emotions towards ALL of his teammates. When teams lose as much as we did last year, scapegoats get formed. From things he's said, and his mother has said, and the. The way I interpreted, possibly jumping to conclusions, his quote with Andy Katz, it seemed like there was still a disproportionate amount of blame being thrown Kanter's way. Not sure that is a good mindset for him to have moving forward, if it is indeed his mindset. Kanter is a teammate.
Fair enough.
Although this is a troll thread, there's still come real Trey hate here and on JF.
Those haters are ****ing stupid.
Those haters are ****ing stupid.
Sexual Favors
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How is he mentally slow? He taught himself english, which is one of the hardest languages to learn, and absorbed Big Al's footwork like a sponge. Definitely doesn't show signs of being mentally slow. Maybe Ty's system just didn't make sense to anyone?
I do think Ty was the wrong coach for him. Kanter rarely played free under him. Always looked over at the bench after every play. It was creepy.