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Whats more exciting, making playoffs or better draft position

tleikheen

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At 29 Wins and 34 losses ,the Jazz sit at the 12th pick in the Draft.That can get the Jazz a good pick.

I have Skal Labissiere as the Jazz pick.He is super skilled and talented and if he goes against Gobert and Favors everyday in practice ,he can be pretty damn good and potentially give the Jazz a rim protector every minute of the game.

#1 Philadelphia.......Ben Simmons /a frontline of Embiid,Saric and Simmons,what about Noel and Okafor
#2 LA lakers...........Brandon Ingram /Russell ,Clarkson,Ingram,Randle .... a core
#3 Phoenix ............Dragan Bender / Len,Bender,Warren,Booker,Knight.... their young lineup
#4 Boston .............Jaylen Brown / Ainge always goes with best talent available
#5 Minnesota..........Jamal Murray / maybe Minn needs a back up plan for Rubio,....Murray ?
#6 NO Pelicans.........Buddy Hield / resign Anderson ,draft Hield for Davis ,maybe things look more better
#7 Sac Kings............Kris Dunn / How long is Rondo tolerated
#8 Toronto .............Henry Ellenson / Lowry,Derozan,Valenciunas,....Weak at PF ,Ellenson can really help
#9 Denver ..............Ivan Rabb / Gallinari hurt again ,Faried a bit undersized
#10 Milwaukee..........Jacob Poeltl / Milwaukees best shotblocker now plays PG ,Poeltl fits nicely
#11 Orlando ............ Diamond Stone / Great young core,Vucevic,Gordon,Hezonja,Oladiop,Payton,,add Stone

#12 Utah ................Skal Labissiere / Too much skill and talent to pass on,would set Jazz frontcourt for years
 
At 29 Wins and 34 losses ,the Jazz sit at the 12th pick in the Draft.That can get the Jazz a good pick.

I have Skal Labissiere as the Jazz pick.He is super skilled and talented and if he goes against Gobert and Favors everyday in practice ,he can be pretty damn good and potentially give the Jazz a rim protector every minute of the game.

#1 Philadelphia.......Ben Simmons /a frontline of Embiid,Saric and Simmons,what about Noel and Okafor
#2 LA lakers...........Brandon Ingram /Russell ,Clarkson,Ingram,Randle .... a core
#3 Phoenix ............Dragan Bender / Len,Bender,Warren,Booker,Knight.... their young lineup
#4 Boston .............Jaylen Brown / Ainge always goes with best talent available
#5 Minnesota..........Jamal Murray / maybe Minn needs a back up plan for Rubio,....Murray ?
#6 NO Pelicans.........Buddy Hield / resign Anderson ,draft Hield for Davis ,maybe things look more better
#7 Sac Kings............Kris Dunn / How long is Rondo tolerated
#8 Toronto .............Henry Ellenson / Lowry,Derozan,Valenciunas,....Weak at PF ,Ellenson can really help
#9 Denver ..............Ivan Rabb / Gallinari hurt again ,Faried a bit undersized
#10 Milwaukee..........Jacob Poeltl / Milwaukees best shotblocker now plays PG ,Poeltl fits nicely
#11 Orlando ............ Diamond Stone / Great young core,Vucevic,Gordon,Hezonja,Oladiop,Payton,,add Stone

#12 Utah ................Skal Labissiere / Too much skill and talent to pass on,would set Jazz frontcourt for years

If we're that close, move up for Poeltl or Dunn imo. They'd fill big holes in different respects and can each really score, something we sorely need.
 
Orlando has 2 less Wins and though Vucevic is a great score and rebounder.If Poeltl dropped to #10 I could easily see Orlando grab him to back up Vucevic and give them a rim protector and additional rebounder
 
Can I choose neither? I hate both options at this point. Get to the playoffs and lose in 4. Get a late first round pick and get another "project" to add to the cake mix. Not a huge fan of either. Trying to stay engaged this season has been difficult. XOXO
 
Assuming we trade Burke...this is what we're looking like

Exum-upgrade at backup pg-Neto
Hood-Burks
Hayward-rookie (Valentine?)
Favors-Lyles
Gobert-Withey

Seriously, how deep does a team have to be to compete? If we get a legit rookie (Valentine for argument's sake) and sign a solid backup point guard (I think Neto is more of a 3rd string guy), this team should have quite enough depth imo. We're basically adding Exum, Burks and Valentine and losing Burke.
 
Assuming we trade Burke...this is what we're looking like

Exum-upgrade at backup pg-Neto
Hood-Burks
Hayward-rookie (Valentine?)
Favors-Lyles
Gobert-Withey

Seriously, how deep does a team have to be to compete? If we get a legit rookie (Valentine for argument's sake) and sign a solid backup point guard (I think Neto is more of a 3rd string guy), this team should have quite enough depth imo. We're basically adding Exum, Burks and Valentine and losing Burke.

If the lottery pick and backup point guard are really good shooters .. sweet .. If not more of the same next season
 
Or at least some known bench contribution.

Well do you remember when the Pacers traded their late teens pick for George Hill? That made them an instant contender. They had Hibbert (our Gobert), West (our Favors), Paul George (our Hayward)... they needed a PG. That team was contending but they had to break it up when Paul George broke his leg.


I think we need to do something similar ... (but obviously only if there isn't a Kawhi Leonard hidden in the draft somewhere).
 
I see no point in getting the eighth spot
Jazz get destroyed by Warriors
Possible mental setback for young team
Jazz need to continue to stockpile talent
Maybe get very lucky at the #12 pick and others
Jazz are not going to get a franchise alpha dog player
Jazz need to win with team concept play
Jazz need to sign a free agent or two to add to the mix
Even then that may not be enough
 
For me playoffs are far more exciting. I don't follow draft prospects so I couldn't really care less until the player is on the team.
 
If we make the playoffs it's because we go on a huge run and finish strong, that'd be a lot more fun than going from 12 to 10.
 
Well do you remember when the Pacers traded their late teens pick for George Hill? That made them an instant contender. They had Hibbert (our Gobert), West (our Favors), Paul George (our Hayward)... they needed a PG. That team was contending but they had to break it up when Paul George broke his leg.


I think we need to do something similar ... (but obviously only if there isn't a Kawhi Leonard hidden in the draft somewhere).

That team had toughness. We have none.
 
I see no point in getting the eighth spot
Jazz get destroyed by Warriors
Possible mental setback for young team

Sorry to be harsh, but you sound like a coward. Who cares if we get destroyed by the Warriors...it will still be a valuable lesson and learning experience for a young team to play against the greatest team in NBA History for at least 4 straight games. Hell, even if we give them a hard fought battle in one of the games and still lose (we already did in the regular season) that will be huge. And if we actually win a game?...holy ****, we've exceeded EVERYONE'S expectations. To me it's a total win-win situation for the Jazz to make the playoffs.
 
Playoffs all the way.

Tonight is our "playoff" game. Like the result?

Sorry to be harsh, but you sound like a coward. Who cares if we get destroyed by the Warriors...it will still be a valuable lesson and learning experience for a young team to play against the greatest team in NBA History for at least 4 straight games. Hell, even if we give them a hard fought battle in one of the games and still lose (we already did in the regular season) that will be huge. And if we actually win a game?...holy ****, we've exceeded EVERYONE'S expectations. To me it's a total win-win situation for the Jazz to make the playoffs.
How about if we just play them tough in a regular season game? Jazz can't even do that. This is pitiful. Lindsey needs to be fired for giving Utah this roster.
 
Listened and heard the GS announcers talking about Exum working out before tonights game and talking about Utah being a really good team when he's back. Pretty much said it all to me. Even opposing announcers know what Exum brings to the Jazz.When Exum's healthy the Jazz are fast ,their really long and their damn good on defense.
This season doesn't represent what the Jazz team is.
This team playing now is sloooooow and boring.

So much of this poor shooting is a young team that should be playing pressure defense and a uptempo pace.Exum ,though young brought that.He did what the Coach told him ,push the ball up.
I don't know who's impressed that the Jazz lead the league in passes per game ,f**king boring.They have the players who can attack and play more wide open with Hayward,Hood and Burks ,they just need Exum pushing the ball hard and creating defensive pressure.Slap the b**ches around instead of being the one bullied and pushed around.
But this year isn't it!!!
Knicks ,Milwaukee,and Orlando ...close enough to finish with a better record than Utah. Utah can be in that 12,11,10 range.

Im still on that Skal Labissiere bandwagon, nothing wrong with a skilled offensive Center backing up Gobert.

Exum /Neto
Hood /Burks
Hayward / FA
Favors /Lyles
Gobert/Labissiere
 
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