When will Jefferson have breakout season?

[sepanol]

https://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/sierra/2011/09/26/tweetbag-miami-has-the-brightest-future/

I dont know who is that Jorge Sierra but he seems to talk pretty logical

Who thinks Big al will have breakout season this year ( if there is a season)

There are other headlines in the link too

Like Valanciunas, he was rated pretty highly, anyone thinks Cavs will regret their pick ? (im sure Utah will not)

Also what people think about Bo Mccalebb? Some guys have seen him in the eurobasket i guess, can he play in the nba?

 

[Qman]

I don't know that anything short of an MVP type season could be considered breakout for Al. He has had several 20 and 10 season. I hope that he comes into camp in better shape. Which in turn should help his activity level on defense. The other thing I hope is that he continues to improve his passing.

 

[GVC]

I don't know that anything short of an MVP type season could be considered breakout for Al. He has had several 20 and 10 season. I hope that he comes into camp in better shape. Which in turn should help his activity level on defense. The other thing I hope is that he continues to improve his passing.

Not all 20 and 10 seasons are created equal. If you get your 20 inefficiently, while playing pathetic defense and team ball, you probably aren't helping your team win.

This is the year for Al to show he's a premier NBA big. If Favors and Kanter show promise, and Sap continues to do what he's always done, but Al shows more of the same, hopefully the Jazz can acquire some half-decent assets for Al in a trade. We'll see.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Not all 20 and 10 seasons are created equal. If you get your 20 inefficiently, while playing pathetic defense and team ball, you probably aren't helping your team win.

This is the year for Al to show he's a premier NBA big. If Favors and Kanter show promise, and Sap continues to do what he's always done, but Al shows more of the same, hopefully the Jazz can acquire some half-decent assets for Al in a trade. We'll see.

Seconded.

 

[InGameStrategy]

https://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/sierra/2011/09/26/tweetbag-miami-has-the-brightest-future/

I dont know who is that Jorge Sierra but he seems to talk pretty logical

Who thinks Big al will have breakout season this year ( if there is a season)

Are you suggesting here that Jorge Sierra thinks that AJ will have a breakout season this year?

Because Jorge Sierra doesn't ...

At one point in the NBA, you are what you are. I don’t think we should be expecting a breakout year from Al Jefferson after seven seasons in the league. He’s what he is: A very good offensive player and a very bad defensive player. He has enough low-post skills to be a go-to guy offensively, but lacks the elite athleticism and motor that most stars possess. His conditioning has rarely been where it should be, but all in all Jefferson is still a Top 50 player in the NBA. I just don’t believe he’s ever going to be a bona fide star in the league.

Or are you asking if anybody else thinks so?

 

[sepanol]

Not all 20 and 10 seasons are created equal. If you get your 20 inefficiently, while playing pathetic defense and team ball, you probably aren't helping your team win.

This is the year for Al to show he's a premier NBA big. If Favors and Kanter show promise, and Sap continues to do what he's always done, but Al shows more of the same, hopefully the Jazz can acquire some half-decent assets for Al in a trade. We'll see.

right as always

 

[sepanol]

Are you suggesting here that Jorge Sierra thinks that AJ will have a breakout season this year?

Because Jorge Sierra doesn't ...


Or are you asking if anybody else thinks so?

i didnt say he thinks so, i asked what people thinks, i dont think so and i agree with sierra, he made a pretty simple statement, very good offense very bad defense, it kinda summarizes all

 

[Scorpjazz]

20 and 10 arent good enough when you dont like him, I get it. Fairly simple.
Agree with poster who said he would have to approach elite levels and mvp talk to truly have a breakout season.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Are you suggesting here that Jorge Sierra thinks that AJ will have a breakout season this year?

Because Jorge Sierra doesn't ...


Or are you asking if anybody else thinks so?

You just love jumping on people's throats to make you feel better about yourself, dont you?

There was LITERALLY no implied statement anywhere in the OP's post; in fact, most people who are familiar with this board and sepanols posts on it show that hes generally pessimistic towards Big Al. Way to go, *******.

 

[Zerol]

I don't understand when people said what you see is what you get after 7 years in the league. Kevin Garnett won his MVP in season 8 when he averaged career highs in points and rebounds. Chris Webber in his season 8 averaged his career high in points and made All-NBA first team. Charles Barkley won MVP in his 9th season. Hakeem Olajuwon won his 2 championships in dominating fashion in his 10th and 11th seasons. Our very own Karl Malone won 2 MVPs in his 30s.

I am not comparing Big Al to these guys, but if the Big Al that we saw in February and March who averaged 23.8 points, 10.9 rebounds, 1.9 blocks with 54% shooting improves by small margins in each of these categories (which is fairly possible as he is entering his prime, one more year removed from the knee injury and one year of Utah Jazz basketball under his belt), he will be right in the mix of best big men in the NBA.

 

[Jazz4ever]

20 and 10 arent good enough when you dont like him, I get it. Fairly simple.
Agree with poster who said he would have to approach elite levels and mvp talk to truly have a breakout season.

Professional scouts and GMs don't like him either. He was gifted to us for Kosta freakin Koufas and has little to no trade value around the league.
A breakout season would be putting up an efficient 20 and 10, while attempting a pass out of a double team, and learning to play help defense.

 

[Deleted member 848]

I don't understand when people said what you see is what you get after 7 years in the league. Kevin Garnett won his MVP in season 8 when he averaged career highs in points and rebounds. Chris Webber in his season 8 averaged his career high in points and made All-NBA first team. Charles Barkley won MVP in his 9th season. Hakeem Olajuwon won his 2 championships in dominating fashion in his 10th and 11th seasons. Our very own Karl Malone won 2 MVPs in his 30s.

I am not comparing Big Al to these guys, but if the Big Al that we saw in February and March who averaged 23.8 points, 10.9 rebounds, 1.9 blocks with 54% shooting improves by small margins in each of these categories (which is fairly possible as he is entering his prime, one more year removed from the knee injury and one year of Utah Jazz basketball under his belt), he will be right in the mix of best big men in the NBA.

Agree Whole-Heartedly. To me, I think the biggest worry among our fanbase is whether he can improve defensively. Offensively, I seriously think he can make slight adjustments to his game to easily propel his pointage to at least 22 per game, but I would much rather settle for a Big Al that averaged 20.5 PPG and came into his own defensively, than (what is arguably more likely) seeing him go along the Stoudamire route of premier PF/C scorer, but lackustre defender. However in the end, he is still a very solid on-man defender, and Favors will hopefully be there to cover for his mistakes when it comes to rotational defense. Couple this with (hopefully) stronger outside shooting with Hayward, better defending on the perimeter and we might address some of our serious woes that we had last season.

 

[InGameStrategy]

You just love jumping on people's throats to make you feel better about yourself, dont you?

There was LITERALLY no implied statement anywhere in the OP's post; in fact, most people who are familiar with this board and sepanols posts on it show that hes generally pessimistic towards Big Al. Way to go, *******.

Just seeking a clarification, dalamon; thus the dual questions in my post.

Keep your jersey on.

 

[GVC]

I don't understand why everyone is sold on his offense. It wasn't good this year. Al is a ball stopper who doesn't put that much pressure on defenses because (1) he shoots under 50%, (2) he shies away from contact, and thus doesn't draw fouls that would lead to easy points (1 & 2 combined make him a rather inefficient scorer), and (3) his vision is poor, with few of his passes leading to easy buckets/open shots for his teammates. If we're banking on his individual offense making up for his poor team play, he's going to have to be a lot more efficient.

 

[shadler]

Can't we just give the guy a year to see what he does. He comes in works his ... off and everyone expects him to be the next shaq or something. How many big guys in this league don't have something wrong with them? Everyone of them have something that fans complain about. The Jazz get rid of all their starters from a year ago and expect the chemistry to be great all of a sudden. As long as favors starts next year I think that will help big al a lot. Not like you are going to be getting any all star players on this team anytime soon. Also not too many players I would want to trade for unless you are looking for an overpriced player. And people on this board will complain about them just the same. I seen a lot of positives on where this team is headed and I would rather have him then do what we have been doing by over paying for players (boozers,ak). At least he hasn't gotten hurt which says a lot for this team.

 

[sepanol]

while attempting a pass out of a double team, and learning to play help defense.

The question is whether thats ever gonna happen?

My biggest problem with big al is his poor basketball iq, i dont know how much he can improve himself in this sides of the game

 

[sepanol]

I don't understand why everyone is sold on his offense. It wasn't good this year. Al is a ball stopper who doesn't put that much pressure on defenses because (1) he shoots under 50%, (2) he shies away from contact, and thus doesn't draw fouls that would lead to easy points (1 & 2 combined make him a rather inefficient scorer), and (3) his vision is poor, with few of his passes leading to easy buckets/open shots for his teammates. If we're banking on his individual offense making up for his poor team play, he's going to have to be a lot more efficient.

I agree, and i would prefer to say, he is an offensively skilled big man, but he cant use his skilled as efficiently as he is supposed to. Thats what i mention about his basketball iq, his vision is poor, if he has 3 options in a position, he generally chooses the worst option and make a bad decision if he is under pressure.
Also he has a really bad mid range jump shot, so how much we can benefit from him in playoffs where everyone will be much more intense in defense and close the gaps under the rim.

Randolph had a perfect post season because he has lots of weapons, does Big Al have those?

However i still respect Big Al's offensive skills and i think he is very much above standard in offensive end among big men. But if i look at the Benefit/Loss ratio, while we have plenty of other big men, which are really good and promising, a big man who is paid 14 million per year and who has no plus on defense (except blocking) is more than expandable if we can get a good trade deal.

 

[enchilada_style]

Can't we just give the guy a year to see what he does. He comes in works his ... off and everyone expects him to be the next shaq or something. How many big guys in this league don't have something wrong with them? Everyone of them have something that fans complain about. The Jazz get rid of all their starters from a year ago and expect the chemistry to be great all of a sudden. As long as favors starts next year I think that will help big al a lot. Not like you are going to be getting any all star players on this team anytime soon. Also not too many players I would want to trade for unless you are looking for an overpriced player. And people on this board will complain about them just the same. I seen a lot of positives on where this team is headed and I would rather have him then do what we have been doing by over paying for players (boozers,ak). At least he hasn't gotten hurt which says a lot for this team.

I like where your head is at Big Dawg.

 

[Zerol]

Also he has a really bad mid range jump shot, so how much we can benefit from him in playoffs where everyone will be much more intense in defense and close the gaps under the rim.

Who are you comparing his mid-range jump shot to? Because from what I have seen all season, his mid range jump shot has been above average to good all season.

Randolph had a perfect post season because he has lots of weapons, does Big Al have those?

What?

 

[Deleted member 848]

I agree, and i would prefer to say, he is an offensively skilled big man, but he cant use his skilled as efficiently as he is supposed to. Thats what i mention about his basketball iq, his vision is poor, if he has 3 options in a position, he generally chooses the worst option and make a bad decision if he is under pressure.
Also he has a really bad mid range jump shot, so how much we can benefit from him in playoffs where everyone will be much more intense in defense and close the gaps under the rim.

Randolph had a perfect post season because he has lots of weapons, does Big Al have those?

However i still respect Big Al's offensive skills and i think he is very much above standard in offensive end among big men. But if i look at the Benefit/Loss ratio, while we have plenty of other big men, which are really good and promising, a big man who is paid 14 million per year and who has no plus on defense (except blocking) is more than expandable if we can get a good trade deal.

Dont recall Big Al ever ****ing up from lots of pressure and making the wrong choice when the game was on the line last season. quite the contrary actually; his clutch percentages and totals have been posted numerous times in this forum