I consider the transparency a positive when he goes into defend-the-organization mode. Saves my brain a lot of trouble.
Where Does Hood End Up?
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I consider the transparency a positive when he goes into defend-the-organization mode. Saves my brain a lot of trouble.
Coach Ellis
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A.) Mirotic won’t have his option declined. Anyone who trades for him will do so because they think he’s a solid piece to add long term. If the Jazz want him, they should trade for him to have him for $12.5 for a year and then his Bird Rights.
B.) PG13 is the only guy that will hit the open market this year that will be worth more than just keeping Hood. Every other name you listed is a terrible option for Utah to try to open cap space for.
C.) Jazz should take Favors, Burks, Rubio and JJ (plus draft picks) and try to turn them into Mirotic and Fournier somehow. Those two guys would be great fits for the Jazz IMO. (2018 pick is off limits unless it comes with major protections.)
D.) I don’t think Hood is going to get nearly the offer that some people think he will. Jazz should just keep him and Exum at this point. They still fit into Rudy/Donovan's timeline.
LoPo
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A. Fair, but I only want to pursue him if the cost is right.
B. PG is a waste of time to discuss. However, I'm not opening space to go all out on these guys. I'm dumping Burks and using his $11.5 for next year on something better. It's conceivable that we can get two of the names I listed for what we will pay Burks. To me, that's a no brainer.
C. Fournier and Mirotic are worthy targets, but I don't think we have the assets for both unless we trade a 1st.
D. Hood will get paid this summer $15+. Philly has money and could use him. Same for all of the bottom dwellers with money (Atlanta, Suns, Lakers (should they strike out on big fish), Bulls, Nets, etc.). All those teams have the ability to pay him and could give him a big role. It doesn't matter though - our FO will make the decision on his fit and his cost before deadline day.
If you are dreaming for the impossible you might as well list Durant and go after him.
If we pulled that off I would be pretty happy.
Coach Ellis
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I don’t think any of those caliber of players are obtainable - yet. Jazz need to win and Mitchell needs to develop into a legitimate superstar before that really comes to fruition.
In all honesty, if they were on the open market, the two guys that I think would make the most sense for the Jazz are Niko Mirotic and Evan Fournier. That’s why I think they should go hard after those two.
I hate the free agent options for 2018, and I’m not convinced that 2019 will be any better for them. That’s why I’d focus on making some moves now - while the Jazz have expiring salaries that can be used to make a deal. If a star player actually wants to come to Utah, there’s nothing that says the Jazz can’t move pieces around to make it work - just like GSW did with Iguodala and Houston did with CP.
I’d rather be proactive than reactive.
DL overall I feel has been appropriately proactive with some caution. With regard to actually moving people that are on the roster, however, he's shown to be reactive. Kanter trade was reactive. The only other people he's traded have been Lyles, Pleiss and Burks.
elan_prodigy
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Isnt Lillard kind of redundant now with DM?
Coach Ellis
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Still think Utah is a better option than Portland to land Mirotic. I expect the Blazers to do something, but I think it’s more likely that they just don’t cut salary and live with the luxury tax than that they make a big move.
He sounds like he is saying that Portland might pursue Mirotic.
But no Lillard is not redundant since we have DM. Teams need more than one guy that can create and shoot.
Having 2 more DM's on our team would not be redundant. Honestly we could have 6 DMs and they might not be redundant. Have them play 1-2-3 and then bring the other 3 off the bench. That would be a pretty ****ing good team.
Yeah but what if they just pony up the pick for Mirotic?
Coach Ellis
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Their contracts to come back are atrocious. Jazz will likely offer something comparable with better salaries coming back if they decide to get into the game. Bulls are tanking the **** out of things this year, but that doesn’t mean they want to be tied down to bad contracts to get a mid-first round pick.
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Correct both Detroit and Portland can't match unless they send garbage salary back.
Can't they just use their Crabbe exception? Of anyone in the league who's never given a damn about the LT, it's Paul Allen.
ETA: they can also just send Aminu and Vonleh. Aminu has like $7M left next year.
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Aminu is an important player for them... their defense goes to poop when he is out.
They can get out of LT this year which is important to avoid repeater tax... I know they have money but it hamstrings the team if they give up a first for a guy and don't dump salary.
Napier and Connaughton are likely gone this offseason because they will be too costly.
For a guy that can simply walk in 18 months and is disgruntled to be on THE SPURS?
Coach Ellis
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For all the disconnect that the Jazz roster has going on right now. . . at least we’re not the Blazers and maxed out on a **** roster with little upside.
Yeah, its a little risky but well worth the risk. That could be a championship roster. There is almost no chance that trade happens but if it did... Next year having a core of Mitchell, Kawhi and Gobert. We should go all in on that if we get the chance.
Douchebag K
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Isn't Gordon still a pretty shaky 3 pt shooter .. i know he had a hot streak to start the year but he seems to have cooled off in that regard ?
And he'll be expensive
Yes, he is a little strange but he has improved his shot so much and I think it will continue. Plus how many stretch 4s are ultra athletic, play defense and can put the ball on the floor?
He will get the mini Max but I think that's well worth the risk.
I don't think magic will trade him for anything reasonable we will offer.