Where will Jefferson stand in All Star voting this season?
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GVC
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Years matter, and the Jazz can offer one more. It's worth considering the possibility of moving those guys next summer in a sign-and trade too. That is how we acquired the TPE that turned in Jeffy.
Preferably an upgrade at the 2/3 or a longterm point guard.
Gyp Rosetti
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Millsap and Mo Williams for Rondo and...(drum roll)...Jason Collins!!!
I could see them marching out a Mo, Terry, Pierce, Millsap, Garnett fivesome...
Jeffy with great court vision tonight, but Sap and Burks Biffed The Pass so no asst yet.
I've been waiting by the phone for this offer. It'll take the GSW pick and then some, but that's actually a sexy Celtics team so I don't know why it wouldn't be compelling for another Pierce-Garnett push. Potentially strong bench depth with Bass, Green, Lee, Darko (yes), & two promising rooks.
I've been waiting by the phone for this offer. It'll take the GSW pick and then some, but that's actually a sexy Celtics team so I don't know why it wouldn't be compelling for another Pierce-Garnett push. Potentially strong bench depth with Bass, Green, Lee, Darko (yes), & two promising rooks.
Gyp Rosetti
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Maybe it could just take Ainge and Rivers to grow frustrated with Rondo yet again.
addictionary
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We should all vote for Raja Bell through that alternative choice thingy and cause the lamest selection of All-Star history.
GVC
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Just curious, Frank, how are you liking Kanter? How likely do you think it is that he'll be ready for 28+ minutes by the trade deadline? If he is, how well do you think he and Jefferson complement each other (since they'd have to play together for every minute over 20 that Jefferson gets)?
If Jefferson is a black hole then Kanter is the singularity that resulted in the big bang. The guy is awful in the post but I'm at least starting to see where he could develop into a beast in 2-3 years. No way he's ready by the break this year though.
If a couple of these guys show good upward trajectory then I'll be ready to trade Jefferson for jack squat 20 games into the season just as I was last year. If not then I'll feel stuck with what we got and Jefferson as a necessary piece. Hayward is already frustrating the hell out of me so I'm already trending back that way.
I'm sure that's all fuzzy but it's basically bi-modal to me: this team is either good enough to grow into a contender with Jefferson or it needs to be scrapped and added to in the draft and FA praying.
GVC
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eh? Dude's been passing alright the last couple games (and the passes are crisp/precise). And how the hell is he awful in the post? He's putting a lot of pressure on opposing defenses. I'd say he's shown solid improvement as the preseason has progressed in the two areas where he was lacking most: Passing and keeping the ball up.
I don't see significant complementarity issues with any on-court 4/5 combos (from among the Jazz's main 4 bigs), aside from Kanter-Al. If/when Favors is ready, it doesn't matter too much if you put him alongside Al, Millsap or Kanter. Millsap complements the other 3 as well (offensively, at least...that is, when he's not forcing retarded shots).
Hey franklin,
Jefferson sucks.
If you want to win an NBA title you cannot have a player like him getting the majority of the teams minutes at center. No matter how efficient he is offensively (or how efficient his overrated PER is), the other team will always be more efficient running the pick and roll against him and/or forcing him to rotate defensively.
Jefferson sucks.
If you want to win an NBA title you cannot have a player like him getting the majority of the teams minutes at center. No matter how efficient he is offensively (or how efficient his overrated PER is), the other team will always be more efficient running the pick and roll against him and/or forcing him to rotate defensively.
GVC
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You disagree? There's a reason he's been passing more the last couple games: Teams are starting to bring an extra defender to help when he has the ball in the post. Did you watch the last two games?
Kanter has one post move and scrub defenders are recognizing it. Bump, bump right shoulder, spin left. He is getting better--especially at mixing the up and under into this instead of the other way around--but has a long way to go. As for his passes, I have no clue what you're talking about. Passing it back out to the point guard?
GVC
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1. So you're not watching the games (since, you know, he generally posts up from the left block, and has started going middle before countering with a spin or up-and-under). How many post moves does Jefferson have? How frequently does he go middle and finish without countering with a spin or up-and-under? Have I just missed Al's devastating drop step or sky hook?
2. Yes, the Al Jefferson pass. Kanter's look nicer fwiw.
GVC
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While I point out how inept Jefferson has been trying to operate off the ball or with the ball from the high post?
GVC
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He is what he is: A sub-par leading man, incapable of playing a complementary role. His brand of basketball also happens to be about as entertaining as watching paint dry. If we're striving for mediocrity, I'd prefer a little entertainment value. Do you actually want him on this team next season? If Kanter took all his minutes and possessions(with Evans taking Kanter's minutes), how much worse do you think the Jazz would be (would they be any further from contention?)? Why?