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Which of our current bigs likeliest to get traded to OKC?

Cyrone Torbin said:
If Perkins has hands of stone then Fesenko has hands of wet ice.
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Perkins does have hands of stone, given the rock on the Celtics championship ring that he contributed to (in no small part because of his defense, which Jefferson still lacks). KP's still under 30, still shooting near 50%, still logging a block or two, and still doesn't have ridiculously high turnovers. With Kanter and Favors in the rotation, Utah still needs someone who can score down low while playing passable defense (unlike AJ and Boozer), but Perk would be an OK pickup (or OKC pickup) for 7 or 8 million.
 
NotDeadYet said:
Now that OKC fully understands their biggest weakness is SIZE in the paint, I expect they will be in the market for a big, even at the cost of losing a good player.
We got lots of'em, but I doubt we'd trade Favors, no doubt the most coveted. What kinda trade would you guys envision
that would benefit BOTH teams, as both teams got fairly smart Front offices?
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I'm pretty sure they have sufficient size in the paint, not Lakers size but good size.
 
Millsap for Perkins and Maynor.

Millsap would give them some low post scoring and is versatile enough not to bog down their fast paced offense. Perkins is a decent defender but his contract is a big hinderance on whether they can keep Harden/Ibaka past next season. Dealing him now for Millsap's expiring helps them compete for a title and remain flexible for after next season.

Maynor is coming off a major knee injury which would need to check out first, but we would essentially have all of next season to see if he could be the pg of the future before he becomes a RFA.
 
Novak but not Steve said:
Millsap for Perkins and Maynor.

Millsap would give them some low post scoring and is versatile enough not to bog down their fast paced offense. Perkins is a decent defender but his contract is a big hinderance on whether they can keep Harden/Ibaka past next season. Dealing him now for Millsap's expiring helps them compete for a title and remain flexible for after next season.

Maynor is coming off a major knee injury which would need to check out first, but we would essentially have all of next season to see if he could be the pg of the future before he becomes a RFA.
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That would be a terrible trade for us. Perkins just keeps our logjam in the front court going, and Maynor will never be more than a backup.
 
vslice02 said:
Miami's offensive explosion in Game 5 grabbed the headlines, but in reality the main reason the Heat won and the Thunder lost was OKC's offense floundered in the face of the perimeter pressure from Miami's defense.

The Thunder don't necessarily need an overhaul or an upgrade in bigmen. They have Perkins - one of the best lowpost defenders in the league. They have Ibaka - one of the best shotblockers in the league and they have Collison - one of the best glue-guys in the league. Their interior play wasn't an issue in the LA or San Antonio series. They lack a low-post scorer but that should come from Durant (not in a back-to-the-basket game but from an ability to catch the ball, face-up and iso from the elbow or from 15-feet out on the wing and attack - a la Dirk, LeBron, ect). I'm sure they would like Favors (who wouldn't?) or even Kanter since both guys have tons of potential and are playing on rookie contracts - but the reality of the situation is neither Millsap or Jefferson are the pieces who will get OKC "over the hump." That has to come from within, in the ability of Scott Brooks to get Durant the ball somewhere inside of 23-feet, in the ability of Westbrook to maximize both his effectivenness and Durant's, and in Durant's ability to match the level of competitive greatness that LeBron has now reached.

It wouldn't be suprising if the Thunder look to move Harden or Ibaka - but it primarily because they don't want to pay them big money. Their core can definitely win a championship. They don't need to blow it up, they just need some hardening and toughness that all the previous champions gained from failing on the game's biggest stage.
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It's precisely OKC's lack of interior scoring which allowed Miami to high pressure the perimeter. Totally agree they are not likely interested in either Millsap or Jefferson. They'd be foolish to not covet Kanter or Favors though...
 
vslice02 said:
Miami's offensive explosion in Game 5 grabbed the headlines, but in reality the main reason the Heat won and the Thunder lost was OKC's offense floundered in the face of the perimeter pressure from Miami's defense.

The Thunder don't necessarily need an overhaul or an upgrade in bigmen. They have Perkins - one of the best lowpost defenders in the league. They have Ibaka - one of the best shotblockers in the league and they have Collison - one of the best glue-guys in the league. Their interior play wasn't an issue in the LA or San Antonio series. They lack a low-post scorer but that should come from Durant (not in a back-to-the-basket game but from an ability to catch the ball, face-up and iso from the elbow or from 15-feet out on the wing and attack - a la Dirk, LeBron, ect). I'm sure they would like Favors (who wouldn't?) or even Kanter since both guys have tons of potential and are playing on rookie contracts - but the reality of the situation is neither Millsap or Jefferson are the pieces who will get OKC "over the hump." That has to come from within, in the ability of Scott Brooks to get Durant the ball somewhere inside of 23-feet, in the ability of Westbrook to maximize both his effectivenness and Durant's, and in Durant's ability to match the level of competitive greatness that LeBron has now reached.

It wouldn't be suprising if the Thunder look to move Harden or Ibaka - but it primarily because they don't want to pay them big money. Their core can definitely win a championship. They don't need to blow it up, they just need some hardening and toughness that all the previous champions gained from failing on the game's biggest stage.
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It's precisely OKC's lack of interior scoring which allowed Miami to high pressure the perimeter. Totally agree they are not likely interested in either Millsap or Jefferson. They'd be foolish to not covet Kanter or Favors though...
 
Funny, I was thinking today about whether this series blew up the paradigm of starting multiple guys that can play center. LA and Dallas recently, Detroit and SA from a ways back as examples. Neither of this year's finals teams had a true center, and beat the clubs that did.

Millsap would be filthy for the Heat with Bosh at the 5.
 
vslice02 said:
Miami's offensive explosion in Game 5 grabbed the headlines, but in reality the main reason the Heat won and the Thunder lost was OKC's offense floundered in the face of the perimeter pressure from Miami's defense.

The Thunder don't necessarily need an overhaul or an upgrade in bigmen. They have Perkins - one of the best lowpost defenders in the league. They have Ibaka - one of the best shotblockers in the league and they have Collison - one of the best glue-guys in the league. Their interior play wasn't an issue in the LA or San Antonio series. They lack a low-post scorer but that should come from Durant (not in a back-to-the-basket game but from an ability to catch the ball, face-up and iso from the elbow or from 15-feet out on the wing and attack - a la Dirk, LeBron, ect). I'm sure they would like Favors (who wouldn't?) or even Kanter since both guys have tons of potential and are playing on rookie contracts - but the reality of the situation is neither Millsap or Jefferson are the pieces who will get OKC "over the hump." That has to come from within, in the ability of Scott Brooks to get Durant the ball somewhere inside of 23-feet, in the ability of Westbrook to maximize both his effectivenness and Durant's, and in Durant's ability to match the level of competitive greatness that LeBron has now reached.

It wouldn't be suprising if the Thunder look to move Harden or Ibaka - but it primarily because they don't want to pay them big money. Their core can definitely win a championship. They don't need to blow it up, they just need some hardening and toughness that all the previous champions gained from failing on the game's biggest stage.
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James Harden is undoubtedly part of their core.
 
If I were OKC, I'd trade Westbrook for a low post scorer and let Harden take over. Westbrook is one of those guys who's a great individual but doesn't make his teammates better. Harden is someone who improves a team's chemistry because of his ability to run the offense.
 
I'm only interested in Kendrick if he eats his way up to 400 lbs. Anything above expecting him to eat up space is overcomplicating what he is and should be.
 
Duck Rodgers said:
I'm only interested in Kendrick if he eats his way up to 400 lbs. Anything above expecting him to eat up space is overcomplicating what he is and should be.
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I was thoroughly unimpressed with him. He plays man D well and has a great scowl. Otherwise little paint protection and an auto-turnover on offense. Cannot count the numbers of times I shouted to the tV "Don't pass it to Perkins" after another turnover.
 
write4u said:
If I were OKC, I'd trade Westbrook for a low post scorer and let Harden take over. Westbrook is one of those guys who's a great individual but doesn't make his teammates better. Harden is someone who improves a team's chemistry because of his ability to run the offense.
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Westbrook's problem is he's not a point guard. You put the ball in his hands and his mindset is rarely about using his team to score. That team needs a real point more than it needs a 5.
 
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