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Who gets waived?

Which player(s) will be waived before the season starts?

  • Butler

    Votes: 31 35.2%

  • Dok

    Votes: 25 28.4%

  • NAW

    Votes: 7 8.0%

  • Bolmaro

    Votes: 15 17.0%

  • Stanley Johnson

    Votes: 27 30.7%

  • Saben Lee

    Votes: 53 60.2%

  • Gay

    Votes: 44 50.0%
  • Total voters
    88
Bolmaro's been highlighted on the Jazz twitter..so I think he maybe cut - dang it! And I think Gay is there for the season unless there is a trade. Can Bolmaro be signed on the Stars if no one picks him up?
 
Just want to speak up for Bolmaro here. His size/skillset is intriguing, even though I’m not sure he’s better than even Trent Forrest in the end. He deserves a chance to stick around for longer to see if he has any breakthroughs (basically for his shooting to be more consistent and for him to be more confident as a scorer).

He’s also an example of a player that might be as ****** as THT that doesn’t burn up >$21 million in cap/cash. But at least he plays hard on both sides of the ball, plays good defense, and is unselfish (to a fault).
 
NUMBERICA said:
Just want to speak up for Bolmaro here. His size/skillset is intriguing, even though I’m not sure he’s better than even Trent Forrest in the end. He deserves a chance to stick around for longer to see if he has any breakthroughs (basically for his shooting to be more consistent and for him to be more confident as a scorer).

He’s also an example of a player that might be as ****** as THT that doesn’t burn up >$21 million in cap/cash. But at least he plays hard on both sides of the ball, plays good defense, and is unselfish (to a fault).
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THT is wayyyy better than Balmaro.
 
Again, Bolmaro is jack of all trades but expert at none. Doesn't have one single skill that translates to the NBA level. Europe will suit him well.
 
framer said:
THT is wayyyy better than Balmaro.
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Offense yeah for sure, but I’d give Bolmaro the nod on defense. The player that’s a better comparison is NAW. They both play good D, have good handles and are good distributors but struggle to generate their own offense. Can anybody tell me with absolute assurity that NAW is better or has more potential than Bolmaro? Cause to me that’s a tough one.
 
I've decided... it will be Doke and Gay. Johnson gets moved into someone's exception for a top 55 protected second.

Gay is an amazing tank commander but its going to be counterproductive to have him playing and just stinking up the joint when development minutes could go to Simone and Ochai. Removing Gay and Johnson from the equation means those guys should play.

Just remove the potential distraction... get $1M back in a buyout if you can... if not just eat the deal. It sucks but not gonna change our world one way or another.
 
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I would rather keep Bolmaro than NAW.
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Unfortunately I think it comes down to money. It's easier to eat Bolmaro's salary as he's only making $2.4mil and NAW is guaranteed $5mil for this season. They can also use NAW's salary as filler in any potential trade. It's probably the same reason we're stuck with Gay on the roster.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I've decided... it will be Doke and Gay. Johnson gets moved into someone's exception for a top 55 protected second.

Gay is an amazing tank commander but its going to be counterproductive to have him playing and just stinking up the joint when development minutes could go to Simone and Ochai. Removing Gay and Johnson from the equation means those guys should play.

Just remove the potential distraction... get $1M back in a buyout if you can... if not just eat the deal. It sucks but not gonna change our world one way or another.
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Easy for you to say as it’s not your Twelve million dollar investment.

I’m with you btw, from the outside looking in. The mere thought of that Dick eating up development minutes makes me want to quit following live games.

Maybe it has something to do with Zach Lowe’s insulting assessment:
 
I would cut the guys the team would owe the least amount of money to. After it's all about the owner's wallet.
 
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Release the Kraken said:
Easy for you to say as it’s not your Twelve million dollar investment.

I’m with you btw, from the outside looking in. The mere thought of that Dick eating up development minutes makes me want to quit following live games.

Maybe it has something to do with Zach Lowe’s insulting assessment:
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Its really the additional $6.8M next year that is the real cost... No one will take Gay into a trade exception... so this year's 6M is a sunk cost.

If he plays like he has in preseason his trade value won't increase at all... no need to throw away those minutes because of a sunk cost.
 
Don’t you have to pay them anyway? If so, it would be better to just cut whoever you don’t want on your team.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Its really the additional $6.8M next year that is the real cost... No one will take Gay into a trade exception... so this year's 6M is a sunk cost.

If he plays like he has in preseason his trade value won't increase at all... no need to throw away those minutes because of a sunk cost.
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Perfectly good logic! However, the reason it’s referred to as a sunk cost fallacy is because people don’t tend to think logically when there’s invested money involved.
 
I would waive Dok and offer him a spot on the Stars and tell him if there is a trade then who knows. I would also waive Butler because hurting the PG depth will help the tank and backup point guards are replaceable.
 
Udidthizz said:
Don’t you have to pay them anyway? If so, it would be better to just cut whoever you don’t want on your team.
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I wish it were that easy so we could say goodbye to Gay.

With that said if they cut Gay's $6mil ($12+mil over 2 years) or NAW's $5mil for this season then it becomes dead money. If they keep them on the roster they can combine their salary with another player to maybe bring back an asset or two. In Gay's case he's such a negative asset he would severely destroy any other value going out. Personally I'd try to buy him out even if Gay only gives back $3mil on the $12 they owe him. That contract wasn't a Danny Ainge mistake so maybe he could sell it to Smith that way. Ofc the team is going to be so bad maybe Smith isn't willing to eat Gay's salary. These guys don't become billionaires by typically doing that kind of stuff.

As a rebuilding team I'd much rather have the younger player Bolmaro as the 15th guy who at least has some degree of potential as this squad obviously needs an infusion of talent. Unfortunately looks like he's getting the ax.
 
Cut Butler it would destroy the ability to rest Conley and would cause the maximum chaos to the team. Next year you can find a another backup scrub.
 
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